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Footballguy
What if Dusty's become an analytical savant in his down-time? I guess weirder things have happened?
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Footballguy
Also never forget that Dusty said that high-OBP guys who were slow "clog up the bases." I really hope he's coming back.
Eephus
Footballguy
Johnny B is the only managerial candidate who smoked a joint with Jimi Hendrix
DoubleG
Footballguy
As a Cubs fan, I also hope Dusty comes back to manage any team in the NL...except the Cubs. That's always fun to watch.
"Hey, ummm...Mr. Baker, our starting pitcher's throwing arm just fell off...after throwing his 147th pitch."
"Yeah, maybe we should get somebody warming up in the pen..."
He might be a great guy, but he sure can destroy a pitching staff like nobody's business.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Do we know anything about Klentak?
Nats job is apparently down to Black and Baker. I think it would be fairly surprising if it's not Black, he seems like a pretty solid manager who took the fall for Preller's misdeeds.
Nats job is apparently down to Black and Baker. I think it would be fairly surprising if it's not Black, he seems like a pretty solid manager who took the fall for Preller's misdeeds.
Eephus
Footballguy
Black and Matt Williams both played for Dusty with the Giants. Black seems to be pretty well respected in spite of very sporadic success with San Diego. He took over a playoff team and held his job through their collapse a couple years later. The Padres closed strong but lost the NL West on last Sunday of the 2010 season and haven't been near .500 since. His career managerial record is 64 games under .500 over 1362 games. There's no indication that he ever smoked a joint with Jimi Hendrix either.
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Footballguy
Counterpoint: Black kind of seems to grasp the basic underpinnings of how baseball works.
Eephus
Footballguy
Keep the clubhouse together and motivated. Score more runs. Win more games. Spit a lot.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Above you pointed out the Padres unimpressive record as a mark against Black.
I don't think they can do much, but the difference between the best and worst managers certainly has to be at least a few wins. And some of Baker's philosophies in practice have been recklessly, negligently bad.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I think their influence is the smallest of all the major sports. Probably by a good stretch.
That said, with the market value of one "WAR" being around $8mm now, it makes sense to splurge on a manager that makes good decisions and -- if they're not going to win you any extra games -- at least won't lose you any.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Torii Hunter retiring.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Hunter leaves the game with exactly 50.0 rWAR; more than the usual examples of the worst Hall of Fame OFs (e.g. Ross Youngs, Jim Rice). Surprisingly (to me), his advanced fielding stats are mediocre for a guy who was a perennial Gold Glove (3.3 total dWAR)(.
Hunter just doesn't pass the sniff test as a Hall of Famer. He didn't get much MVP or All Star recognition, never finished top 5 in any major offensive category and spent much of his career as the second best player on his team He is a teammate bridge from Terry Steinbach and Otis Nixon to Byron Buxton and Mike Trout. He played with Molitor as a teammate and for him as a manager. Hunter also probably had a gay teammate at some point in his long career without any irreparable harm from it.
Hunter just doesn't pass the sniff test as a Hall of Famer. He didn't get much MVP or All Star recognition, never finished top 5 in any major offensive category and spent much of his career as the second best player on his team He is a teammate bridge from Terry Steinbach and Otis Nixon to Byron Buxton and Mike Trout. He played with Molitor as a teammate and for him as a manager. Hunter also probably had a gay teammate at some point in his long career without any irreparable harm from it.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Daniel Murphy?
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Hunter may have been overrated in the field, I remember the gaff he had in the ALDS vs Oakland in 2006 as an example. He also should have had the Ortiz homer in 2013 in the ALCS, he took a bad angle and it sailed over his head. Would have been an above average play had he made it but he was so awful his last few years, he shouldn't have been anywhere but RF.
He never walked, he'd go weeks in between walks which was annoying. He is Hall of Very Good though, he was an above average player for the bulk of his career. He never led in any statistical category and his highest MVP vote was 6th. 110 career OPS+, two silver sluggers, nine gold gloves (consecutively), and an entertaining player for certain.
He never walked, he'd go weeks in between walks which was annoying. He is Hall of Very Good though, he was an above average player for the bulk of his career. He never led in any statistical category and his highest MVP vote was 6th. 110 career OPS+, two silver sluggers, nine gold gloves (consecutively), and an entertaining player for certain.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
My wife and I were in Boston and I convinced her to duck into a bar (and a Harvard bar at that) to watch some of the game. We saw this play. We left.
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Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Looks like Jeets found his beard
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Footballguy
Anthropomopolis resigns as Toronto GM.
Eephus
Footballguy
Congrats to the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks on their second consecutive NPB title. They beat the Yakult Swallows in 5 games.
Former MLB pitcher Dennis Sarfate had an outstanding season as the Hawks' closer. 41 SV (139 game season), 1.11 ERA, 0.63 WHIP, 14.2 SO/9. Their top hitter was CF Yuki Yanagita (.363/.469/.631) but Fukuoka has never posted a player as a MLB FA.
Former MLB pitcher Dennis Sarfate had an outstanding season as the Hawks' closer. 41 SV (139 game season), 1.11 ERA, 0.63 WHIP, 14.2 SO/9. Their top hitter was CF Yuki Yanagita (.363/.469/.631) but Fukuoka has never posted a player as a MLB FA.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Always bet on 0 / 00?Diamondbacks 3rd base coach Andy Green hired as the new Padres manager.
I got nuthin
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Michael Hill, current President of baseball ops, assuming GM duties for the Fish. I think he's kind of a doofus?
Eephus
Footballguy
He was an assistant to Beinfest and has been Jennings' boss for the past year. It's an in-house reassignment so I wouldn't expect any major changes. I don't really know what that means because the Marlins recent personnel decisions seem tactically driven without any apparent long-term strategy. Are they trying to build their organization from the ground floor? are they trying to compete now? who can tell? Some of their deals have worked out in isolation but the team seems constrained financially and talent-wise to topping out around the .500 mark.
Hill is African and Cuban-American which makes him the highest ranking minority in a MLB front office position so there's that
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Footballguy
I imagine that Loria's pretty fickle, too. He can't be easy to work for.He was an assistant to Beinfest and has been Jennings' boss for the past year. It's an in-house reassignment so I wouldn't expect any major changes. I don't really know what that means because the Marlins recent personnel decisions seem tactically driven without any apparent long-term strategy. Are they trying to build their organization from the ground floor? are they trying to compete now? who can tell? Some of their deals have worked out in isolation but the team seems constrained financially and talent-wise to topping out around the .500 mark.
Hill is African and Cuban-American which makes him the highest ranking minority in a MLB front office position so there's that
The mid-season Latos etc. deal was just a pure salary dump. They gave up a comp balance pick that was better than any of the minor leaguers they got from LA!
Heaney deal was also horrible, obviously. Feel bad for the six Fish fans that are left. But hey two WS!
Eephus
Footballguy
The Heaney deal returned Dee Gordon who was a 4.9 WAR player this year and is cost-controlled through 2018. He's a whole lot more valuable than a one year rental of Howie Kendrick. The Marlins' organizational depth is at pitcher and you have to put some major league talent on the field. I like DeSclafani but I think the Latos deal is defensible from the Marlins' perspective. Buy low on a distressed asset and hope he brings a bigger return at the deadline. It's basically a cut-rate version of the Beane/Holliday gambit and worked out about as well.I imagine that Loria's pretty fickle, too. He can't be easy to work for.He was an assistant to Beinfest and has been Jennings' boss for the past year. It's an in-house reassignment so I wouldn't expect any major changes. I don't really know what that means because the Marlins recent personnel decisions seem tactically driven without any apparent long-term strategy. Are they trying to build their organization from the ground floor? are they trying to compete now? who can tell? Some of their deals have worked out in isolation but the team seems constrained financially and talent-wise to topping out around the .500 mark.
Hill is African and Cuban-American which makes him the highest ranking minority in a MLB front office position so there's that
The mid-season Latos etc. deal was just a pure salary dump. They gave up a comp balance pick that was better than any of the minor leaguers they got from LA!
Heaney deal was also horrible, obviously. Feel bad for the six Fish fans that are left. But hey two WS!
For all Loria's flakiness, his front office has been relatively stable. There have only been three GMs since he bought the club. Larry Beinfest, Jennings and Hill were all inside hires. Their oddball decisions have been with on-field leadership. The hiring of Trader Jack worked out great and Ozzie Guillen was a disaster.
ETA: they sure gave Joe Girardi the quick hook
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If Gordon cracks 4.5 WAR again next year I'll eat my shoe. Don't think that is sustainable with an outlier UZR and an outlier BABIP, esp a guy who doesn't hit the ball especially hard.The Heaney deal returned Dee Gordon who was a 4.9 WAR player this year and is cost-controlled through 2018. He's a whole lot more valuable than a one year rental of Howie Kendrick. The Marlins' organizational depth is at pitcher and you have to put some major league talent on the field. I like DeSclafani but I think the Latos deal is defensible from the Marlins' perspective. Buy low on a distressed asset and hope he brings a bigger return at the deadline. It's basically a cut-rate version of the Beane/Holliday gambit and worked out about as well.I imagine that Loria's pretty fickle, too. He can't be easy to work for.He was an assistant to Beinfest and has been Jennings' boss for the past year. It's an in-house reassignment so I wouldn't expect any major changes. I don't really know what that means because the Marlins recent personnel decisions seem tactically driven without any apparent long-term strategy. Are they trying to build their organization from the ground floor? are they trying to compete now? who can tell? Some of their deals have worked out in isolation but the team seems constrained financially and talent-wise to topping out around the .500 mark.
Hill is African and Cuban-American which makes him the highest ranking minority in a MLB front office position so there's that
The mid-season Latos etc. deal was just a pure salary dump. They gave up a comp balance pick that was better than any of the minor leaguers they got from LA!
Heaney deal was also horrible, obviously. Feel bad for the six Fish fans that are left. But hey two WS!
For all Loria's flakiness, his front office has been relatively stable. There have only been three GMs since he bought the club. Larry Beinfest, Jennings and Hill were all inside hires. Their oddball decisions have been with on-field leadership. The hiring of Trader Jack worked out great and Ozzie Guillen was a disaster.
ETA: they sure gave Joe Girardi the quick hook
Re: Loria's flakiness, I meant more in terms of how he's constantly adding/subtracting resources, to where his teams are alternately spending lavishly or doing nothing. They didn't ship out Latos for talent per se, they dangled him to get rid of terrible Morse. Other low-payroll teams typically don't have to do things like this, because they wouldn't have splurged on a Morse in the first place.
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Footballguy
I don't remember what it was that made me think he was kind of dopey. He did insult Marlins fans by openly saying he hoped they were sophisticated enough to understand Miami's moves.Yikes, Michael Morse. I'll alwaysthat big lunkhead for 2014 but it was terrible contract for a poor player.
If Michael Hill had anything to do with that deal, you're right, I'm wrong and Hill is an idiot.
Eephus
Footballguy
“I would hope our fans are educated enough to see what we’re doing here.” - quote from Hill after their deadline deals. I don't know the full context of the comment. It's probably technically correct but the "I would hope" part makes him come off like a ####.I don't remember what it was that made me think he was kind of dopey. He did insult Marlins fans by openly saying he hoped they were sophisticated enough to understand Miami's moves.Yikes, Michael Morse. I'll always
If Michael Hill had anything to do with that deal, you're right, I'm wrong and Hill is an idiot.
RnR
Footballguy
Sounds like your kind of guy.I don't remember what it was that made me think he was kind of dopey. He did insult Marlins fans by openly saying he hoped they were sophisticated enough to understand Miami's moves.Yikes, Michael Morse. I'll always
If Michael Hill had anything to do with that deal, you're right, I'm wrong and Hill is an idiot.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
My sources say that Ruben Amaro advised him on those comments.“I would hope our fans are educated enough to see what we’re doing here.” - quote from Hill after their deadline deals. I don't know the full context of the comment. It's probably technically correct but the "I would hope" part makes him come off like a ####.I don't remember what it was that made me think he was kind of dopey. He did insult Marlins fans by openly saying he hoped they were sophisticated enough to understand Miami's moves.Yikes, Michael Morse. I'll always
If Michael Hill had anything to do with that deal, you're right, I'm wrong and Hill is an idiot.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Not enough bad things can happen to Jeffrey Loria.
And the same goes for his midget former stepson, David Samson.
And the same goes for his midget former stepson, David Samson.
Eephus
Footballguy
The Rockies pass on Justin Morneau's 2016 option. They got one good year out of two but his injury foiled the opportunity to flip him at the deadline.
He can still hit righties (even at sea level) if he can stay in the lineup and could probably be a cheap DH/1B type for team like Seattle or San Diego.
He can still hit righties (even at sea level) if he can stay in the lineup and could probably be a cheap DH/1B type for team like Seattle or San Diego.
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Footballguy
Nats lowballed Black.
I THINK THAT'S DUSTY BAKER'S THEME MUSIC!
I THINK THAT'S DUSTY BAKER'S THEME MUSIC!
Swing 51
Footballguy
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Footballguy
Phils claim Dan Otero off waivers. Klentak pops his cherry!
Lind option picked up by MIL.
Lind option picked up by MIL.
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Eephus
Footballguy
The Red Sox exercised their $13M option on Clay Buchholz. He was effective last year when healthy but an inconsistent 31 year old pitcher coming off elbow problems is far from a sure thing. Boston has money to burn and needs starting pitching in the worst way so this move makes more sense for them than it would for other clubs.
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Footballguy
He's been rumored to be on the block, either way I think it wouldn't make sense to let him go (he has a near-identical team option for '17). I'm not sure what they'd be looking for in return, given that Boston doesn't have many areas of need in their lineup, assuming they're going to hide Hanley at 1B next year.
The BABIP monsters got him early last year for the first month of the season, then he went on a pretty strong run through July until he strained his elbow.
