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Part of the reason I don't think he worked out in Seattle is that they know what they have in Rawls. They let both Turbin and Michael go, guys they had kept on there..

They knew what they had with an undrafted rookie and that was more than they thought the "uber" talented Michael, who had been on their roster for 2.5 years, would give them?

Reasons for Michael's lack of playing time have been spun 1,000 different ways but at some point it becomes apparent that NFL coaches, who's jobs and livelihoods are on the line, do not seem to trust him with meaningful playing time.

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I think your feelings on Cmike come down to personality.

People that play for upside and like to take chances have no problem riding this thing to the grave...more conservative players are going to look at the situation and shake their head.

Personally, im a high upside guy...I taking my chances on these types of plays because they can win you a league.

We know Cmike has the physical gifts, but we really dont know why he didnt workout in Seattle, or why he hasnt just taken the job over in Dallas....a lot of unknown unknowns.

To sum it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk

Nice Rumsfeld quote. Totally agree. Don't even know what we don't know. Edited by ATB

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It seems likely that CMike will begin to see an increase in his touches in relief of DMac, and his role going forward should be largely determined first by DMac's productivity and ability to avoid injury and second by CMIke's success in his limited touches. For those who believe Christine Michael just needs an opportunity to display his abilities, it should come, and if he plays smart and disciplined and breaks off some nice runs, his role should increase, regardless of what McFadden does.

I don't know why Michael has failed to thrive thus far. We have seen Michael look very Bryce Brown-ish, breaking off decent runs in limited use, almost exclusively in exhibition games, however. There is obviously more that we are not seeing or Seattle would not have been so willing to part ways with him, and Dallas would be more willing to give him more opportunities than he has thus far garnered.

I still like Michael as an upside play, and the failed hype and limited use only serves to drive his price downward. If your roster allows an end-of-the-bench lottery-type player, CMike is certainly rosterable, but for how much longer? The opportunity is never going to get much better than it is presently, and if Michael does not seize this opportunity and break through soon, there is no reason to believe he ever will. Every week I maintain Michael at the end of my bench I miss out on another potential lottery ticket.

It's time to put up or shut up.

Signed, a frustrated CMIke dynasty owner whose patience is growing increasingly thin

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It seems likely that CMike will begin to see an increase in his touches in relief of DMac, and his role going forward should be largely determined first by DMac's productivity and ability to avoid injury and second by CMIke's success in his limited touches. For those who believe Christine Michael just needs an opportunity to display his abilities, it should come, and if he plays smart and disciplined and breaks off some nice runs, his role should increase, regardless of what McFadden does.

I don't know why Michael has failed to thrive thus far. We have seen Michael look very Bryce Brown-ish, breaking off decent runs in limited use, almost exclusively in exhibition games, however. There is obviously more that we are not seeing or Seattle would not have been so willing to part ways with him, and Dallas would be more willing to give him more opportunities than he has thus far garnered.

I still like Michael as an upside play, and the failed hype and limited use only serves to drive his price downward. If your roster allows an end-of-the-bench lottery-type player, CMike is certainly rosterable, but for how much longer? The opportunity is never going to get much better than it is presently, and if Michael does not seize this opportunity and break through soon, there is no reason to believe he ever will. Every week I maintain Michael at the end of my bench I miss out on another potential lottery ticket.

It's time to put up or shut up.

Signed, a frustrated CMIke dynasty owner whose patience is growing increasingly thin

I disagree. I think his role,is determined by his understanding of the playbook

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Part of the reason I don't think he worked out in Seattle is that they know what they have in Rawls. They let both Turbin and Michael go, guys they had kept on there..

No, I don't think so. I'm too lazy to cite a source, but I've read that Michael fancied himself a star, had a bad attitude, and didn't work hard. Really, not dissimilar from Trent Richardson.

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Part of the reason I don't think he worked out in Seattle is that they know what they have in Rawls. They let both Turbin and Michael go, guys they had kept on there..

No, I don't think so. I'm too lazy to cite a source, but I've read that Michael fancied himself a star, had a bad attitude, and didn't work hard. Really, not dissimilar from Trent Richardson.

or joseph randle

edit: randle officially ruled OUT for week 8 btw

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Call me crazy, but I don't think they're going to give McFadden 31 touches every week. Michael should see the ball at least enough to get a better idea what he looks like in a game.

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It seems likely that CMike will begin to see an increase in his touches in relief of DMac, and his role going forward should be largely determined first by DMac's productivity and ability to avoid injury and second by CMIke's success in his limited touches. For those who believe Christine Michael just needs an opportunity to display his abilities, it should come, and if he plays smart and disciplined and breaks off some nice runs, his role should increase, regardless of what McFadden does.

I don't know why Michael has failed to thrive thus far. We have seen Michael look very Bryce Brown-ish, breaking off decent runs in limited use, almost exclusively in exhibition games, however. There is obviously more that we are not seeing or Seattle would not have been so willing to part ways with him, and Dallas would be more willing to give him more opportunities than he has thus far garnered.

I still like Michael as an upside play, and the failed hype and limited use only serves to drive his price downward. If your roster allows an end-of-the-bench lottery-type player, CMike is certainly rosterable, but for how much longer? The opportunity is never going to get much better than it is presently, and if Michael does not seize this opportunity and break through soon, there is no reason to believe he ever will. Every week I maintain Michael at the end of my bench I miss out on another potential lottery ticket.

It's time to put up or shut up.

Signed, a frustrated CMIke dynasty owner whose patience is growing increasingly thin

I disagree. I think his role,is determined by his understanding of the playbook

Agreed. I think everyone sees the talent. It looked like they were getting ready to give him more carries after the bye but something happened during that bye week that stopped them from doing so. Odds are this is a mental issue. Can't grasp the playbook or just can't translate it to the field. Doesn't matter if you can run if you aren't hitting the right hole, lining up correctly, or are missing blocking assignments. Wish we could get a for sure answer from the coaches on what is happening with him.

Holding onto CMike just in case they get stuck playing him after a DMC injury. Trial by fire is the fastest way to learn.

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I'm, ugh, still holding because Arian Foster's injury both means I have the extra roster spot and I need to roll the dice on a potential home run, but I'm just not sure what it is that keeps the guy off the field against all odds.

Forget all the excuses, which were ridiculous, Seattle giving him up for basically nothing when they had no real future at the RB position says a lot. The fact that, with all the teams with RB problems out there, no one was willing to best Dallas' offer and throw a 7th round pick Seattle's way for him says even more. The fact that he then has not been able to beat out what many claimed to be the worst RB stable in the entire NFL says even more. The fact that two of those three terrible running backs were out injured last week and he STILL wasn't able to get any meaningful touches says still more.

He certainly looks like he's got some talent, so it's just mind blowing that everyone in the NFL has decided he's not even worth taking a look at. There are so many horrible running backs that needed so much less help to get out on the field and get meaningful carries, why can Michael not do it even amongst an injury riddled backfield that was never really strong competition even when they were healthy? Even if he's a headcase you'd think he'd have gotten a shot by now and there are lots of headcases that have needed a lot less circumstance to get their chance. He had an easy path to the future job in Seattle and had an easy path to the current job in Dallas and has yet to even get close to seizing either of them.

I don't know what it is with this guy that makes people constantly think "no, I can come up with another crazy ridiculous excuse for him this week", but I'm still holding him too so I guess I'm as guilty as anyone.

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Call me crazy, but I don't think they're going to give McFadden 31 touches every week. Michael should see the ball at least enough to get a better idea what he looks like in a game.

Yep, agree!

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For me it was the outline of his junk in his underoos during weigh-ins at the combine. The BMI and talent level of that thing was off the charts impressive!

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For me it was the outline of his junk in his underoos during weigh-ins at the combine. The BMI and talent level of that thing was off the charts impressive!

link to pics?

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For me it was the outline of his junk in his underoos during weigh-ins at the combine. The BMI and talent level of that thing was off the charts impressive!

link to pics?

Is that you, Michael Sam?

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So picking up McFadden as my waiver priority and holding Christine look like the right play :excited:

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

definitely happening this week

dropped his sorry ### tonight for the 3rd time

No Randle and revenge game ... picked a bad week to drop him.

15-79-2, 4-36 receiving

REVENGE!!!

pretty funny.

gotta get carries this week... no?

Gotta. revenge game.

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform. Edited by GreenNGold

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

prove it

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It seems likely that CMike will begin to see an increase in his touches in relief of DMac, and his role going forward should be largely determined first by DMac's productivity and ability to avoid injury and second by CMIke's success in his limited touches. For those who believe Christine Michael just needs an opportunity to display his abilities, it should come, and if he plays smart and disciplined and breaks off some nice runs, his role should increase, regardless of what McFadden does.

I don't know why Michael has failed to thrive thus far. We have seen Michael look very Bryce Brown-ish, breaking off decent runs in limited use, almost exclusively in exhibition games, however. There is obviously more that we are not seeing or Seattle would not have been so willing to part ways with him, and Dallas would be more willing to give him more opportunities than he has thus far garnered.

I still like Michael as an upside play, and the failed hype and limited use only serves to drive his price downward. If your roster allows an end-of-the-bench lottery-type player, CMike is certainly rosterable, but for how much longer? The opportunity is never going to get much better than it is presently, and if Michael does not seize this opportunity and break through soon, there is no reason to believe he ever will. Every week I maintain Michael at the end of my bench I miss out on another potential lottery ticket.

It's time to put up or shut up.

Signed, a frustrated CMIke dynasty owner whose patience is growing increasingly thin

I disagree. I think his role,is determined by his understanding of the playbook

I would agree he must play with an understanding of the playbook, and that is part of what I was referring to in saying he must play smart and disciplined. If he does that, and that is a pretty big 'if' at this point, based on Michael's apparent history, it would surprise very few to see Michael overtake McFadden in fairly short order.

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It seems likely that CMike will begin to see an increase in his touches in relief of DMac, and his role going forward should be largely determined first by DMac's productivity and ability to avoid injury and second by CMIke's success in his limited touches. For those who believe Christine Michael just needs an opportunity to display his abilities, it should come, and if he plays smart and disciplined and breaks off some nice runs, his role should increase, regardless of what McFadden does.

I don't know why Michael has failed to thrive thus far. We have seen Michael look very Bryce Brown-ish, breaking off decent runs in limited use, almost exclusively in exhibition games, however. There is obviously more that we are not seeing or Seattle would not have been so willing to part ways with him, and Dallas would be more willing to give him more opportunities than he has thus far garnered.

I still like Michael as an upside play, and the failed hype and limited use only serves to drive his price downward. If your roster allows an end-of-the-bench lottery-type player, CMike is certainly rosterable, but for how much longer? The opportunity is never going to get much better than it is presently, and if Michael does not seize this opportunity and break through soon, there is no reason to believe he ever will. Every week I maintain Michael at the end of my bench I miss out on another potential lottery ticket.

It's time to put up or shut up.

Signed, a frustrated CMIke dynasty owner whose patience is growing increasingly thin

Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

Have you ever played sports? Was there ever a time when you played one of your rival schools or something? Did that game feel the same or different as playing a team without much of a rivalry? The thing about human beings - even physical specimens - is that they don't always go 100%. People can get amped up to play at a higher level. Sometimes that higher level translates into magical performances. Sometimes it leads to dumb penalties or nervous mistakes on the field. Either way, I think it is definitely a real thing.

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It seems likely that CMike will begin to see an increase in his touches in relief of DMac, and his role going forward should be largely determined first by DMac's productivity and ability to avoid injury and second by CMIke's success in his limited touches. For those who believe Christine Michael just needs an opportunity to display his abilities, it should come, and if he plays smart and disciplined and breaks off some nice runs, his role should increase, regardless of what McFadden does.

I don't know why Michael has failed to thrive thus far. We have seen Michael look very Bryce Brown-ish, breaking off decent runs in limited use, almost exclusively in exhibition games, however. There is obviously more that we are not seeing or Seattle would not have been so willing to part ways with him, and Dallas would be more willing to give him more opportunities than he has thus far garnered.

I still like Michael as an upside play, and the failed hype and limited use only serves to drive his price downward. If your roster allows an end-of-the-bench lottery-type player, CMike is certainly rosterable, but for how much longer? The opportunity is never going to get much better than it is presently, and if Michael does not seize this opportunity and break through soon, there is no reason to believe he ever will. Every week I maintain Michael at the end of my bench I miss out on another potential lottery ticket.

It's time to put up or shut up.

Signed, a frustrated CMIke dynasty owner whose patience is growing increasingly thin

Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

Have you ever played sports? Was there ever a time when you played one of your rival schools or something? Did that game feel the same or different as playing a team without much of a rivalry? The thing about human beings - even physical specimens - is that they don't always go 100%. People can get amped up to play at a higher level. Sometimes that higher level translates into magical performances. Sometimes it leads to dumb penalties or nervous mistakes on the field. Either way, I think it is definitely a real thing.

:lmao:

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But a quick word of caution: Don’t expect Michael to be THE guy in the Cowboys’ backfield.

The move is more about insurance and depth.

The Cowboys gave up a low-round conditional draft pick for Michael, hardly a sign they will make a heavy investment on him from the get-go.

Perhaps there is still some concern about Joseph Randle's availability throughout the season stemming from an offseason arrest in Wichita, Kansas. He missed the team’s kickoff luncheon to attend to legal affairs, and the NFL could still look to punish him through the personal conduct policy at some point, if not by the Week 1 opener against the New York Giants.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4744911/christine-michael-trade-doesnt-change-cowboys-rb-plans

- 9/6/15

This is why they traded for him.

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But a quick word of caution: Don’t expect Michael to be THE guy in the Cowboys’ backfield.

The move is more about insurance and depth.

The Cowboys gave up a low-round conditional draft pick for Michael, hardly a sign they will make a heavy investment on him from the get-go.

Perhaps there is still some concern about Joseph Randle's availability throughout the season stemming from an offseason arrest in Wichita, Kansas. He missed the team’s kickoff luncheon to attend to legal affairs, and the NFL could still look to punish him through the personal conduct policy at some point, if not by the Week 1 opener against the New York Giants.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4744911/christine-michael-trade-doesnt-change-cowboys-rb-plans

- 9/6/15

This is why they traded for him.

Yes. Exactly. I still like C-Mike though it just might take a while. I am frustrated too but do you guys remember the Michael Turner years when he was behind LT. It was agony. Then he eventually got a chance in Atlanta and became the RB1 we all thought he could be. Maybe the same will hold true for C-Mike? He's not that old yet

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I rolled the dice in one of my dynasty leagues and gave a late (probably) 3rd rd rookie pick for Michael. No big deal if he doesn't work out.

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

It's not just about that you numskull ... It's about the team giving him the opportunity against his former team.

Andre Johnson versus the Texans this season

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

Have you ever played a sport? I presume not, based on your post. I can tell you for certain that emotions play a HUGE part in athletic performance to the positive and negative side. If a player feels slighted by his former team, you bet your sweet little tuchas he is going to give every play more juice than he would normally. Not because normally he doesn't play hard...but BC he's playing at an unsustainably hard pace for this game.

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Almost dropped until the Randle injury stuff came out earlier - if he is a true #2 behind DMC, he is worth stashing if you have room.

If / when DMC goes down, who else is there right now?

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

Have you ever played a sport? I presume not, based on your post. I can tell you for certain that emotions play a HUGE part in athletic performance to the positive and negative side. If a player feels slighted by his former team, you bet your sweet little tuchas he is going to give every play more juice than he would normally. Not because normally he doesn't play hard...but BC he's playing at an unsustainably hard pace for this game.

I think in Cmike's case though there should've already been a fire lit under his ### because he was fighting for carries and the lead role and a job more or less. So I don't there will be much of a difference in the effort he's been giving so far in the season and the game vs. Seattle.

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A McFadden injury away from starting?

:excited:

Should take about 1.8 quarters of football for Runt DMC to wind up on the shelf.

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and then if/when McFadden gets hurt the Cowboys pick up Jackie Battle, start Battle, and spell him 7-8 snaps a game with Christine Michael. then someone posts a slo-mo gif (showing the run from 18 different angles) of Michael's amazing 3-yard run to the edge where he showed unparalleled burst and agility for a guy his size.

And then I'll somehow keep holding in dynasty because he has a chick's name.

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For me it was the outline of his junk in his underoos during weigh-ins at the combine. The BMI and talent level of that thing was off the charts impressive!

link to pics?

send EBF a PM, he has them saved.

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At the end of the season which will be more:

CMs yards

pages in the CM threads combined (123+30 and counting)

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

I don't agree. I don't think it's the players ability but I do think it's reasonable for coaches to take this into account when they put together the game plan.

"Hey it's Andre going up against his old team. Let's see where we can get him involved more in this game".

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

I don't agree. I don't think it's the players ability but I do think it's reasonable for coaches to take this into account when they put together the game plan.

"Hey it's Andre going up against his old team. Let's see where we can get him involved more in this game".

Why would Michelle be motivated for a "revenge"??? The Seahawks drafted him in 2013. He sat behind one of the best RBs in the league for two years. They felt he was not in their future plans so traded him to a team that he would have a shot at. What would he be angry at:

1. Drafting him rather high when his draft stock seemed to have dropped

2. Not starting him over one of the best RBs in the game

3. Trading him to the team with the worst group of RBs to start the season, or in other words, the team he'd have the best shot at stealing the starting job away rather than sitting another year behind Lynch

I guess I don't understand why CM would be angry

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

It's not just about that you numskull ... It's about the team giving him the opportunity against his former team.

Andre Johnson versus the Texans this season

How did DeMarco Murray do against the Cowboys?

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At the end of the season which will be more:

CMs yards

pages in the CM threads combined (123+30 and counting)

Which quarter? #revenge

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

It's not just about that you numskull ... It's about the team giving him the opportunity against his former team.

Andre Johnson versus the Texans this season

People who compare a guy who has never won a starting job to one of the best WR's of his time (and, historically, that franchise's best offensive player over a prolonged period of time) should not be those tossing around the numskulls, numskull.

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

I don't agree. I don't think it's the players ability but I do think it's reasonable for coaches to take this into account when they put together the game plan.

"Hey it's Andre going up against his old team. Let's see where we can get him involved more in this game".

Why would Michelle be motivated for a "revenge"??? The Seahawks drafted him in 2013. He sat behind one of the best RBs in the league for two years. They felt he was not in their future plans so traded him to a team that he would have a shot at. What would he be angry at:

1. Drafting him rather high when his draft stock seemed to have dropped

2. Not starting him over one of the best RBs in the game

3. Trading him to the team with the worst group of RBs to start the season, or in other words, the team he'd have the best shot at stealing the starting job away rather than sitting another year behind Lynch

I guess I don't understand why CM would be angry

Not arguing but the theory is - you didn't believe in me or give me a shot, so I'm going to show you I'm better tha pan you thought I was.

Not surwhat's so hard to understand about that. It's not anger. I think revenge is the wrong word.

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Start c Mike with confidence. All of the #### talking I have done about him and my opponent is playing him against me this week.

Td guaranteed.

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Im out. Just traded him to the DMC owner for Tevin Coleman. I have Freeman

Best of luck to those who believe.

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Sorry if this was already brought up, too many new pages every hour so I usually just skim the most recent posts :P

But with Randle out, is there any 'revenge game' factor vs Seattle this week? Hell if Andre Johnson put up 2 tds vs Houston, anything is possible.

There is no such thing as revenge games. Physical specimens going at 100% on both sides of the ball can't suddenly will themselves into a magical performance. Sure sometimes they will have a good game against a former team but that just has to do with them being able to perform.

I don't agree. I don't think it's the players ability but I do think it's reasonable for coaches to take this into account when they put together the game plan.

"Hey it's Andre going up against his old team. Let's see where we can get him involved more in this game".

Exactly this. Whether revenge games are a thing or not (I have played a lot and know that some games you just get even more excited/amped up for and can increase your performance), fans believe in them. And even if they aren't a thing, coaches may believe in them too, and give him extra opportunities. Not really saying he will play "BETTER" then normal because it's the hawks, but the coaches might think he will and want to give him a shot. Or may want to prove they won the trade vs seattle by having him sting his former team. Or QB's may like the player and want to throw to him more vs his former team because it would mean a lot to him.

There's lots of factors, and even though revenge games don't always pan out, in general I'd say there is a boost (maybe tiny) in production and/or usage when going against a former team. Remember Steve Smith vs Carolina? He even admitted it was a revenge game and wanted to perform very well vs his former team.

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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article41776050.html

Randle went AWOL on Wednesday. Status with team to be discussed on Thursday

So he left for a personal issue that hasn't been disclosed yet and this is the Dal media spin?

Have we not learned how unreliable they are by now?

You're right, it had nothing to do with being demoted. And his history is impeccable.

Maybe he was having baby?

It helps if you actual read things...

From the article;

"Per a source, Randle did not leave the facility because he was upset about being surpassed on the depth chart by running back Darren McFadden, a move owner Jerry Jones announced Tuesday."

Still, his decision to go AWOL and miss a treatment session has frustrated a Cowboys staff that has grown increasingly impatient with Randles litany of troubles.

Randle was arrested twice in a four-month span from last October to February as he was investigated for shoplifting, marijuana possession and domestic violence.

He further drew the ire of the Cowboys in May when he disrespected 2014 NFL leading rusher DeMarco Murray by saying he left some meat on the bone during his team-record 1,845-yard season.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article41776050.html#storylink=cpy

Believe what you want to believe. He could just explain what was so "personal".

There is nothing of substance in that article other than he left for personal reasons.

I'll wait until we actual get some facts to believe anything. I'm certainly not going to believe thus terrible peice of spin.

Did you not just say it helps, "if you actually read things"? Clearly, I did.

And then you went on to state that there is nothing of substance from the article. Nice backtrack. I simply illustrated my take on on it.

Just so we're clear, you accused me of not reading it. Then when I pointed out what I saw in it, you decide the article is a "terrible piece of spin".

You can spin any of this how you want, but again, thinking this malcontent didn't run away from being demoted is ignorant, at best.

The funniest part of the above is that gerbil27 selectively quotes the one part of the article he likes (or what he wants to see in it).

And then turns right around only to denounce it, telling me "it helps if you read things". Yet when I pointed to the part he doesn't want to acknowledge, he goes back to "a terrible piece of spin". :lmao: See what you want to see gerb29 but it usually doesn't work out so well like that.

I picked it because it was one of the few parts linked to well... an actual source.

You're spin is almost as good as theirs.

But yeah, you read the article so you already know that, right?

All I know is that you claimed it to be Dallas media spin.

Then when questioned, you actually cited it to prove your point (bias). You yourself turned to it minutes after discounting it. Ironic to say the least.

Then you tried to say I didn't read it. Which was false.

And when I quoted parts of it, which you obviously did not like, it became a "terrible piece of spin" again.

In short, backtrack and flip-flopping galore. Nice work.

Hi jurb26, just curious about your latest take on the most recent news and how "unreliable" it is.

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Forget religion or politics...CMIKE appears the be the one thing to truly divide FBG's.

I don't really care at this point...I have him in both of my money leagues and if nothing comes of it...I've been entertained beyond the cost of that spot to carry him this long.

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