Spencer Ware, possibly the new work horse

[chad in Indy 179]

6 hours ago, Team Smokin' said:

The consensus is Ware is pretty average - 16-18 carries / 50 -70 yards rushing, 2-3 receptions / 20-25 yards receiving and a .5 TD chance. Dodd and Trembley pretty high on him, Bloom not so much. Depends on other options if you have any? Yes, I am looking at guys like Dixon, Montgomery, Farrow, or Powell. When is the last time Ware broke something and ran hard? Three-four yards and a cloud of rubber doesn't cut it. I guess we're resigned to a RB #2.

Same boat.  Gotta pick 2 out of Ware, Dixon, L. Miller, Montgomery, and Farrow.  Miller and Ware have the highest floor, but I can see both ending with 60-70 yds rushing and no TD's.  Dixon is more enticing, but I really wish I knew Harbaugh was gonna stay committed to him and not revert back to West if they aren't playing from behind.  It's hard to bench 18-20 rushing attempts.

[Team Smokin' 208]

8 minutes ago, chad in Indy said:

Same boat.  Gotta pick 2 out of Ware, Dixon, L. Miller, Montgomery, and Farrow.  Miller and Ware have the highest floor, but I can see both ending with 60-70 yds rushing and no TD's.  Dixon is more enticing, but I really wish I knew Harbaugh was gonna stay committed to him and not revert back to West if they aren't playing from behind.  It's hard to bench 18-20 rushing attempts.

Dixon has turned the corner and his stats show it. Now, could I start him over Ware and Miller? Probably not. But, he is enticing. I may look closer at Dixon tomorrow. In one league I am starting both Freeman and Coleman over Martin and Dixon on the bench. In another league I have Ware and Coleman with Blount Flexed over Dixon. I would say that Dixon scores tomorrow. Just a gut feeling.

[voiceofunreason 900]

On 2016-12-16 at 6:54 AM, chad in Indy said:

I'd like to see stats on how defenses have adjusted to KC in the second half of the season.  Hill's emergence coincides a lot with Maclin missing those 4-5 weeks, but KC still has not scared defenses from playing the game close to the LOS.  I think Ware won't be a great threat until KC can force teams into cover 2 or some form of   It's difficult to bench him bc he is guaranteed 15-18 touches a game especially when he is your RB2 or flex.  Though this week, I'm strongly debating on Dixon over him.

Benched him for Elliot, Hyde and Powell. Biggest problem is they quit using him in the passing game.

[cap'n grunge 6,411]

Lamar Miller over Ware for me this week. I think.

Edited December 18, 2016 by cap'n grunge

[branch0095 52]

51 minutes ago, cap'n grunge said:

Lamar Miller over Ware for me this week. I think.

I'd start Miller. 

 

I've grown tired of his 60 total yard games and am benching him for Gates this week.  It's a tiered PPR where RBs only get .5 PPR and TEs get 1.25 PPR, so that plays a role in it.  For me I just think Gates catching 5 passes with a chance at a TD makes him a better start than absolutely needing Ware to score since his yardage and use in the passing game has been quite low for several weeks. Save for Gates' one game where he got no targets, he has an 11-12pt floor in this format while Ware's floor is about half of that.  I think their ceilings are comparable.

Edited December 18, 2016 by branch0095

[mr blond 1]

7 hours ago, cap'n grunge said:

Lamar Miller over Ware for me this week. I think.

Debating the same here. Slight lean toward Ware at this point due to weather and volume. 

[J R 76]

Prop bets have him fairly high this week. -150 to score.

[Fireballer 42]

5 minutes ago, J R said:

Prop bets have him fairly high this week. -150 to score.

I just saw that.  Murray is -125.  Wtf?

[J R 76]

11 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I just saw that.  Murray is -125.  Wtf?

If my memory is correct, that's shorter than usual for Ware. Hell he is 4-1 to score first. Just when I think I'm out ...

[Bucsfan5493 133]

Think I'm gonna start Hill, Kelley and Tyrelle Williams over him one league. Starting him with Howard and Miller in another league. Only other options are Gillesse, Hopkins, Sheppard and Boyd so I feel like I'm pretty much forced to start him there. I'm fine with Ware as a flex play.

[geoff8695 7]

Really struggling to pick between Ware, Dixon, Martin this weekend, yet I've ridden Ware virtually all season long.

Ware's matchup against a tough TEN run D and frigid temperatures are breaking my resolve to stick with him despite feeling like he has almost guaranteed 15-20 touches.

Meanwhile, Martin and Dixon seem to be on the upswing and Ware seems to be treading water as of late. Dixon especially intrigues me. So much riding on this week's game and feels like a damn coin flip decision...

[Team Smokin' 208]

As much as I want to find a way to start someone else over pedestrian Ware, it looks like I am locked in and hopeful.

[Team Smokin' 208]

1 minute ago, geoff8695 said:

Really struggling to pick between Ware, Dixon, Martin this weekend, yet I've ridden Ware virtually all season long.

Ware's matchup against a tough TEN run D and frigid temperatures are breaking my resolve to stick with him despite feeling like he has almost guaranteed 15-20 touches.

Meanwhile, Martin and Dixon seem to be on the upswing and Ware seems to be treading water as of late. Dixon especially intrigues me. So much riding on this week's game and feels like a damn coin flip decision...

It's Dixon or Ware for me too! Leaning Ware...

[J R 76]

16 minutes ago, geoff8695 said:

Really struggling to pick between Ware, Dixon, Martin this weekend, yet I've ridden Ware virtually all season long.

Ware's matchup against a tough TEN run D and frigid temperatures are breaking my resolve to stick with him despite feeling like he has almost guaranteed 15-20 touches.

Meanwhile, Martin and Dixon seem to be on the upswing and Ware seems to be treading water as of late. Dixon especially intrigues me. So much riding on this week's game and feels like a damn coin flip decision...

Martin's matchup is tough this week as well. It's going to come down to who scores.

[geoff8695 7]

3 minutes ago, Team Smokin' said:

It's Dixon or Ware for me too! Leaning Ware...

Ware being a beefy back is actually a plus in the cold - and it's one reason why I've still got him in my lineup. I think the run game benefits slightly - just not sure how TEN run D will be affected. IF I felt that the run D would suffer a bit, I wouldn't hesitate to leave Ware in there. I'm kinda feeling like Dixon has a coming out party over these next two weekends - but that's a "gut" feeling.

Would hate to finally bench Ware after riding him all season only to see him plunge in a couple short yardage TDs to go along with 75+ total yards from my bench...

[Kwai Chang Caine 1,037]

Have Ware, Dixon and Coleman. I'd like to play Dixon but I worry of the Ravens get up they may save him a bit and use west more. 

[Team Smokin' 208]

1 minute ago, Kwai Chang Caine said:

Have Ware, Dixon and Coleman. I'd like to play Dixon but I worry of the Ravens get up they may save him a bit and use west more. 

Starting Blount, Coleman, and Ware with Dixon on the bench, even though I like him better than Ware. Go figure!!!

[Bucsfan5493 133]

Think I'm actually gonna start Ware over Diggs in my other league. It's non PPR and I just don't trust Diggs enough getting into the end zone and the Vikings completing long passes. Playing Diggs in DFS though so I guess either way it'll work out.

[chad in Indy 179]

21 minutes ago, Team Smokin' said:

Starting Blount, Coleman, and Ware with Dixon on the bench, even though I like him better than Ware. Go figure!!!

Can't do it either. Gotta go w the guaranteed touches over Dixon. Too much to risk

[wormburner 333]

13 hours ago, J R said:

On the other hand, without the DST scoring, maybe Reid would have been more creative.

Maybe.  In week 11, the Chiefs lost to Tampa Bay, at Arrowhead. The defense played just ok.  They shut down the Bucs running game, allowed Winston to have a pretty good game, and gave up 19 points.  KC's DST scored no points in this game.  Reid was unable, or unwilling, to make adjustments to compensate for the lack of defensive scoring.

Today's game may give him another opportunity to be creative, and I hope he is.

[Zow 6,483]

12 hours ago, chad in Indy said:

Same boat.  Gotta pick 2 out of Ware, Dixon, L. Miller, Montgomery, and Farrow.  Miller and Ware have the highest floor, but I can see both ending with 60-70 yds rushing and no TD's.  Dixon is more enticing, but I really wish I knew Harbaugh was gonna stay committed to him and not revert back to West if they aren't playing from behind.  It's hard to bench 18-20 rushing attempts.

I basically have your same options with Crowell added in there too. 

I'm rolling Ware and Miller and trying not to give it a second thought. 

[Shutout 1,742]

I just advised in another thread to sit him for Adrian Peterson.  Anyone feeling that vibe?

 

[Andrew74 909]

1 minute ago, Shutout said:

I just advised in another thread to sit him for Adrian Peterson.  Anyone feeling that vibe?

 

Nope

[Shutout 1,742]

1 minute ago, Andrew74 said:

Nope

Okay, let's see what happens....

[chad in Indy 179]

1 minute ago, Andrew74 said:

Nope

Maybe if it wasn't against the Colts 

[Shutout 1,742]

Just now, chad in Indy said:

Maybe if it wasn't against the Colts 

That's what I'm going on almost entirely.  Rested AP against the Colts. I'm almost guaranteeing at least one 30+ years run and if that's a Td, that's as much as anything a person has gotten from Ware the past several weeks.  

 

[Zow 6,483]

8 minutes ago, Shutout said:

I just advised in another thread to sit him for Adrian Peterson.  Anyone feeling that vibe?

 

No way

[ultraviolet 2]

Would anyone start Montgomery over Ware as a RB2 in PPR?

I have stayed with Ware all year long but need some production at WR2 today.

[Peak 1,111]

Ware Diggs or JStew for me.  I keep going back and forth on Ware.  I like Diggs due to  having two full practices.  Stew has a decent match up but that offense is unsettling. 

[SameSongNDance 7,014]

I never even debated starting him. Watching his games over the past two week completely demoralized me.

[chad in Indy 179]

20 minutes ago, Shutout said:

That's what I'm going on almost entirely.  Rested AP against the Colts. I'm almost guaranteeing at least one 30+ years run and if that's a Td, that's as much as anything a person has gotten from Ware the past several weeks.  

 

Sorry. Misread. Thought u were advising to bench AP. Yes, I agree w u. Live in Indy, and colt are fantasy gold for opposing RBs

[chad in Indy 179]

2 minutes ago, SameSongNDance said:

I never even debated starting him. Watching his games over the past two week completely demoralized me.

Who r u staring in his stead. Gotta give a point of reference. 

[SameSongNDance 7,014]

5 minutes ago, chad in Indy said:

Who r u staring in his stead. Gotta give a point of reference.

Howard or Coleman in one league. (easy decision IMO).

Cooper, Farrow or Dixon in another. (tougher)

I just feel like I'm intimately familiar with Ware's situation right now which is 17 rushes up the gut for 3 ypc and 2-3 targets in the passing game. 

Edited December 18, 2016 by SameSongNDance

[unckeyherb 1,149]

All these folks benching him basically means he'll go for 100 total yards and 2 TDs.  Have him in my lineup. 

[Dinsy Ejotuz 11,200]

32 minutes ago, Shutout said:

I just advised in another thread to sit him for Adrian Peterson.  Anyone feeling that vibe?

Small sample size, but he looked atrocious before the injury this year.  The line is terrible and he looked slow.

Edited December 18, 2016 by Dinsy Ejotuz

[Shutout 1,742]

Just now, unckeyherb said:

All these folks benching him basically means he'll go for 100 total yards and 2 TDs.  Have him in my lineup. 

Probably. That's how it goes.  But there some guys out there who have already cashed in on their fantasy genius skills because all that work all year paid off when they knew to start Dion Sims and Bilall Powell and bench pre-season darlings like Gurley.  

 

Just some tongue in cheek there to illustrate the silliness that tosses all conventional wisdom out the window every single year. 

 

[Kwai Chang Caine 1,037]

I have Ware, Coleman and Miller. I don't feel Miller at all. Right now I have Coleman in over ware and I'm a sweaty mess...

[Txns8 213]

Left Ware in over Hyde (non-PPR).

[Shutout 1,742]

5 minutes ago, Dinsy Ejotuz said:

Small sample size, but he looked atrocious before the injury this year.  The line is terrible and he looked slow.

I agree but I think this is that emotional rush, that fresh legs, that all that stuff you can't measure.  And I'm solely thinking "one game". All I'm looking at is one emotional game today. 

 

[chad in Indy 179]

7 minutes ago, SameSongNDance said:

Howard or Coleman in one league. (easy decision IMO).

Cooper, Farrow or Dixon in another. (tougher)

I just feel like I'm intimately familiar with Ware's situation right now which is 17 rushes up the gut for 3 ypc and 2-3 targets in the passing game. 

Yeah. A lot of is are in the second boat. In a vacuum, I want to bench Ware for either Dixon or Farrow. But there is just too small a sample size to know what the coaches will do w either especially in the red zone. Makes it dangerous v one of those boring 17 rushing attempts Ware gets going for a long TD 

[Shutout 1,742]

okay guys, good chat.  Good luck to you all in any way you picked it!  Happy playoffs.

 

[wormburner 333]

10 minutes ago, unckeyherb said:

All these folks benching him basically means he'll go for 100 total yards and 2 TDs.  Have him in my lineup. 

Rolling with Ware and I hope you're right.

Braktastic slipped some good plays for Ware into one of Reid's sandwiches earlier in the week.  I hope he looked at them before he ate them! 

[voiceofunreason 900]

nice to see Milkman guaranteeing a big week. Takes real guts to do it before the game. 

[Bucsfan5493 133]

Dropped a pitch in the redzone, didn't look like it was gonna go for much, but come on man...

[need2know 5,266]

Ugh

[Bucsfan5493 133]

2 tries from the 1 and he can't punch it in. Unreal

[shadyridr 13,728]

Lmfao

[snitwitch 862]

awful

[shadyridr 13,728]

Elite goal line back

[Jello_Biafra 417]

can't believe I fell for it again.