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I will take those picksHankmoody said:
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NeverEnough
Footballguy
Who are your RB1 & 2? I own Fournette in 2 leagues & he is Rb1 in front of Ingram in both leagues.
Gurley and Kamara.
I own Fournette on another dynasty team that owns pretty much every highly valued RB from last year's rookie crop. Fournette, Cook, CMC, Mixon, Kamara and Hunt. I know Kamara is my favorite of the group and the one I consider the RB1 but really vacillate a good amount on how I rank 2-5 (CMC is 6th for me) but would probably put Fournette in the 2 spot right now if I had to make that call today.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
How close to last year's numbers do you see Kamara getting then? I don't see them anywhere close unless Ingram leaves.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Ingram is gone in a year. Cut Kamara's production by 10% and he still bests Fournette's 2017.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Fournette was out for a couple games + had an ankle thing. We shall see. None of us have a crystal ball.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
The TD pace is hard to keep up but he'll get more usage and I think will outperform his PPG production from last year.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Everyone on this forum is saying stuff like this. Sounds like I should move Ingram for him lol
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Guys I would take over him easily are Gurley, Bell, Zeke, DJ, Fournette, Hunt, and Cook. If we're counting rookies Barkely and probably Guice as well.
So I guess that leaves him around 10th in the same tier as but likely ahead of Freeman and Mixon.
I like Kamara better next year but where he really separates from Fournette is the injury risk and long term outlook. Fournette's injury issues are known but he was a high mileage college RB who plays as physical a style as any RB in the league. Kamara was a lightly used college RB and his unique running style is one I think is ideal for self preservation, he actually took his biggest shots last year as a receiver.
Kamara over Fournette for me next season by a little, Kamara's career over Fournette's by a considerably wider margin.
Or try and get the Ingram/Kamara combo. I had it on a redraft and dynasty team last year which still has it and it's the most glorious RBBC to own in like ever.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
12 team PPR, .15 point per carry
Team A got J Howard,
Team B got Alshon Jeffrey, pick 2.1
Team A got J Howard,
Team B got Alshon Jeffrey, pick 2.1
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Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
I may be in the minority but I'll take Jeffrey and the pick, like his chances to do decent things with Wentz over the next 3 years or so and the pick is still worth something this year, draft is fairly deep. Howard I just don't love in ppr and the .15 per carry seems like a minor scoring impact that doesn't really offset ppr, I like Cohen to continue to be more relevant in Chicago, more relevant than he was last year anyway
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Without the points per carry I think most have Howard and Jeffery about equal, even without the pick.
So the question is how much does the PPC affect things? I think you're underrating how much it matters especially given how many carries Howard gets. His 276 carries last year were worth the equivalent of 41.4 receptions. Combined with his 23 actual receptions that means he got more points from carries+receptions last year than Alshon did, and of course he smoked him in the yardage department (though I think most of us expect Alshon to improve there).
I'd not very big on either player. Both highly TD dependent, Howard put up 8 fantasy points in games he did not score a TD last year and Alshon even less. That just hurts you to many weeks so for me I'd take side with the pick.
Was a conversation earlier in this thread, I think yesterday, centered on value of say 1.12 for 2.1. Department store pricing. 2.1 is essentially a late first and in a solid deep draft that sways me easily on this deal.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
I think this is a nice deal for both teams but I will take the known quantity in Fournette...he is an elite talent/legit #1 RB that is only 23 years playing for a team that is committed to the run...I just don't see the need to roll the dice on draft picks that are not named Barkley in this situation...if you miss on one you may really regret making this deal...Fournette is that rare no doubt #1 RB for his team...he is good for 20+ carries and about 3 receptions per game and I don't see TD production ever being an issue with him...now if the ankle issue spooks you than I can definitely see making this deal but if not I would just sit tight and enjoy the fact you have a legit #1 RB in in Fournette...Hankmoody said:
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Dr. Octopus
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
almost every trade in this thread is bad value. Pretty much the reason I dont look here much any more. This is sickeningly stupid.
This is a worse trade than if it was just pick 10 for Gordon and pick 17
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
OBJ >>>>>> Gordon
Pick 10 >> pick 17
The picks are in the wrong side here. Heck both picks should be on the Gordon side. And then another early 1st. And then another future 1st in top of that.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
tkrull
Footballguy
I think Gordon. 1.03 is someone not named Barkley or Guice. I don't like Foreman's injury and Shepard is nice but not a difference maker.
tkrull
Footballguy
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
12 Team PPR
Team A got TY Hilton, Corey Davis, 1.4
Team B got Mike Evans, Funchess, 2.11
Team A got TY Hilton, Corey Davis, 1.4
Team B got Mike Evans, Funchess, 2.11
tkrull
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jeaton6
Footballguy
I’m on th 1.8 side By quite a bit. Right now 1.8 is outside the sweet spot but 2 months from now it could very well be part of a large tier 2 or certainly a more valued tier 3. If we knew now Miami was going to stand pat and not draft RB I’d be on Drake side by a bit (even then he probably won’t be worth more than 1.6 or 1.7) but if they do draft someone his value could fall dramatically to late 2 range. This 1.8 price doesnt really seem to factor this in much.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
12 team ppr. Start 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1TE.
Team A gave: Cooper, 1.03, 1.08
Team B gave: D. Prescott, 1.01
Team A gave: Cooper, 1.03, 1.08
Team B gave: D. Prescott, 1.01
jeaton6
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
So you were able to squeeze Dak out of him? I thought you offered him Cooper, 1.3, 1.8 for 1.1?
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
In this league the amount of players traded has to be equal. I included Dak for the player on his side.
