I like the present and future more of McKinnon/FullerGave McKinnon/Fuller
Got Gronk/late 4th rd pick
I like the present and future more of McKinnon/FullerGave McKinnon/Fuller
Got Gronk/late 4th rd pick
I'll take Gronk. Not expecting McKinnon to live up anywhere near his 4th round start-up value/cost and dip back in to a 8-12th round obscurity. I like Fuller, but not enough.Gave McKinnon/Fuller
Got Gronk/late 4th rd pick
Seems like a fine price to pay to ensure your guy.Gave picks 3 and 20.
Got pick 2.
I viewed Barkley as far and away the #1 and Guice in a tier by himself at #2. At 3 I was going to take Chubb, so I decided to try and move up or move down because I don't think Chubb is worth the #3 with the competition in Cleveland. The only player I wanted in the 2nd was James Washington, and he'd be gone by 20.
Yes I’m in win now mode. I’m fortunate to have crazy depth at RB so I felt it was the right thing to doNot a McKinnon fan. He's a decent mid to low RB2 I suppose. Fuller I like a lot.
Gronk I am not a huge dynasty fan of for several reasons
If you're going for the championship this year, then yes I like this deal for you. If you're not a contender this year, this deal only hurts you.
I like fuller more than McKinnon in that deal but for win now I like the moveYes I’m in win now mode. I’m fortunate to have crazy depth at RB so I felt it was the right thing to do
people have been able to get rounds 1 and 2 for Collins. so I love Collins here. could flip Collins for a 1, 2, and 3 to the right buyer and end up net trading fitz for a 1st and 2nd. *money money money money.... mooooney!*FFPC Dynasty $500 League
RB Alex Collins
for
WR Larry Fitzgerald
2019 3rd round pick
Team that traded Collins has: Kamara/Cook/Guice/Ronald Jones at RB.
Very nice deal for the team receiving FitzFFPC Dynasty $500 League
RB Alex Collins
for
WR Larry Fitzgerald
2019 3rd round pick
Team that traded Collins has: Kamara/Cook/Guice/Ronald Jones at RB.
Fitz easily for me even if he retires after this year, which it no longer sounds like a foregone conclusion he will. But if he does I'll take the year out of Fitz over the rest of the career of Collins.FFPC Dynasty $500 League
RB Alex Collins
for
WR Larry Fitzgerald
2019 3rd round pick
Team that traded Collins has: Kamara/Cook/Guice/Ronald Jones at RB.
I agree, but I've seen better for Collins. maybe I'm lower on fitz than i should bemenobrown said:I'll take the year out of Fitz over the rest of the career of Collins.
When I comment on a trade it's always based on how I value them and which side I'd want to be on if I was making that deal, not so much market value. One of those reasons is we don't know if in that league the owner shopped Collins around and found a dry market, never know those details.I agree, but I've seen better for Collins. maybe I'm lower on fitz than i should be
Have never seen Collins valued > than 2.9, rookie draft wise. Tried to move him in multiple FFPC Dynasty leagues.Dr. Dan said:I like fuller more than McKinnon in that deal but for win now I like the move
people have been able to get rounds 1 and 2 for Collins. so I love Collins here. could flip Collins for a 1, 2, and 3 to the right buyer and end up net trading fitz for a 1st and 2nd. *money money money money.... mooooney!*
I think he’ll play two more seasons, this one included. Needed a 2nd WR pretty bad.menobrown said:Fitz easily for me even if he retires after this year, which it no longer sounds like a foregone conclusion he will. But if he does I'll take the year out of Fitz over the rest of the career of Collins.
That’s exactly the case. Tried to move Collins non-stop, was unable to acquire a WR2 for the longest time. Hoping he plays one more season after this.When I comment on a trade it's always based on how I value them and which side I'd want to be on if I was making that deal, not so much market value. One of those reasons is we don't know if in that league the owner shopped Collins around and found a dry market, never know those details.
I'm not wild about Fitz as a dynasty investment, imagine it's rare to find someone who is, but I got a solid amount of trust in him for 2018 and the third is not chump change. My take on this trade is more a reflection of how I feel about Collins who despite the nice PPG to end the season I'm not buying.
That sucks. I tried to get him & owner wanted 1st round pick ++That’s exactly the case. Tried to move Collins non-stop, was unable to acquire a WR2 for the longest time. Hoping he plays one more season after this.
Collins or Fitz?That sucks. I tried to get him & owner wanted 1st round pick ++
I suspect I'm in the minority but I'll take Green/Mariota here. I try to look in a 3 year window. I don't buy into the Goff hype and 3 years of Green will be better than 3 years of Freeman.12 team PPR...
AJ Green and Mariota for D.Freeman and Goff
Who won?
seen at least 2 deals for a 1 and 2 for him. doesnt be an that's fair but rather it's just possible with the right buyerHave never seen Collins valued > than 2.9, rookie draft wise. Tried to move him in multiple FFPC Dynasty leagues.
There’s Goff hype? My sense is that few people really rare him highly.I suspect I'm in the minority but I'll take Green/Mariota here. I try to look in a 3 year window. I don't buy into the Goff hype and 3 years of Green will be better than 3 years of Freeman.
This guy gets it!There’s Goff hype? My sense is that few people really rare him highly.
In any case, I’m a big Goff supporter but I’d probably still take the Mariota/Green side too. That’s because I’m super down on Freeman and see him as a rapidly declining asset. If I owned him anywhere I’d be trying to get out.
Goff easily over Mariota for me but objectively it’s probably a wash in a 1QB league.
Seems pretty even. QB's seem even to me, just a matter of preference.12 team PPR...
AJ Green and Mariota for D.Freeman and Goff
Who won?
I'd take David Johnson16t ppr.
Team A received Christian McCaffrey and Mike Williams
Team B received David Johnson
Freeman > AJ by a couple spots, Goff > Mariota by a couple spots.12 team PPR...
AJ Green and Mariota for D.Freeman and Goff
Who won?
DJ huge16t ppr.
Team A received Christian McCaffrey and Mike Williams
Team B received David Johnson
DJ, by a landslide16t ppr.
Team A received Christian McCaffrey and Mike Williams
Team B received David Johnson
That made me look something up. Chubb is less than a month younger than Fournette. So there that is.Devy / Dynasty League
Team A receives Nick Chubb, Amari Cooper, and a 2019 1st rd pick (late)
Team B receives Leonard Fournette, Ju Ju Smith-Schuster
I'll take team a. I dont like fournettes injury risk with his ankle. juju I like but cooper I like more. very underrated.Devy / Dynasty League
Team A receives Nick Chubb, Amari Cooper, and a 2019 1st rd pick (late)
Team B receives Leonard Fournette, Ju Ju Smith-Schuster
I got Cooper a little ahead of JuJu but don't think Chubb and a late first is close to Fournette's value so I'd take what team B received rather easily.Devy / Dynasty League
Team A receives Nick Chubb, Amari Cooper, and a 2019 1st rd pick (late)
Team B receives Leonard Fournette, Ju Ju Smith-Schuster
I like every player in this trade a great deal, tough for me to pick a side. Would lean Engram in a vacuum but ultimately would depend on team makeup.FFPC (1.5 PPR for TE)
Team A received: Kerryon Johnson/Josh Gordon
Team B received: Evan Engram
KJ and Gordon for me.FFPC (1.5 PPR for TE)
Team A received: Kerryon Johnson/Josh Gordon
Team B received: Evan Engram
Nice trade, probably right down the middle depending on roster specifics.FFPC (1.5 PPR for TE)
Team A received: Kerryon Johnson/Josh Gordon
Team B received: Evan Engram
I do love me some Engram but this is essentially a 4th and 5th round startup pick for a 4th round startup pick. KJ and Flash for me.FFPC (1.5 PPR for TE)
Team A received: Kerryon Johnson/Josh Gordon
Team B received: Evan Engram
Relevant rosters for both (with new additions in bold/italics)Nice trade, probably right down the middle depending on roster specifics.
I'll take what team b got. Evans is still a bit overrated based on his production so far. Robinson and McKinnon may be, too, but either one of them could end up being the best player in this deal. I can't say the same about Riddick.12 team PPR
Team A gets:
Mike Evans
Theo Riddick
Team B gets:
Allen Robinson
Jerick Mckinnon
Evans easily.12 team PPR
Team A gets:
Mike Evans
Theo Riddick
Team B gets:
Allen Robinson
Jerick Mckinnon
I'm tough on Evans. I see him as overrated in general.12 team PPR
Team A gets:
Mike Evans
Theo Riddick
Team B gets:
Allen Robinson
Jerick Mckinnon
With context added I like it for Team B's side as their roster is deep, they got most valued asset in deal and in short term have commanding advantage over rest of the league at TE and have put in place the succession plan for Gronk and Kelce.Relevant rosters for both (with new additions in bold/italics)
Team A:
RB: Mixon/McCaffrey/A. Jones/Jamaal Williams/L. Miller/Kerryon Johnson
WR: D. Adams/AJG/Thielen/DT/Parker/Enunwa/Jordy/Josh Gordon
TE: J. Reed/V. Davis
Team B:
RB: Kamara/D. Cook/D. Freeman/Chubb/Hyde
WR: Evans/M. Thomas/T. Hill/Cooks/M. Bryant
TE: Gronk/Kelce/Leggett/E. Engram
In FFPC Engram typically goes in the third and as high as the 2nd.I do love me some Engram but this is essentially a 4th and 5th round startup pick for a 4th round startup pick. KJ and Flash for me.
I was just going by one of my startups when Engram went in the 4th (pick #41), guess that was good value then. I'd still take a 4th and 5th rounder for a late 3rd rounder though in this years startup.In FFPC Engram typically goes in the third and as high as the 2nd.
Via FFPC ADP this is 35 for 46 and 58. Still probably favors Kerryon/Gordon but, even as someone who doesn't particularly like Engram, I think he would be flippable for even more than this in that format.
If I'm dealing Evans, I need at least one anchor top 24 asset in the process. Team B didn't get that.12 team PPR
Team A gets: Mike Evans, Theo Riddick
Team B gets: Allen Robinson, Jerick Mckinnon
Love Chubb, Gordon, Washington side. Ideal sell-out of AJ.12 Team PPR
Gave: AJG, P-Rich, Austin
Got: Chubb, Josh Gordon, James Washington
Historically, I’ve valued a top TE more than most of my leaguemates which is why on most teams I have Gronk and Kelce. In my book, Kelce has been top 12 player for the last three years, and Gronk a top 3 player for the last six years.I was just going by one of my startups when Engram went in the 4th (pick #41), guess that was good value then. I'd still take a 4th and 5th rounder for a late 3rd rounder though in this years startup.