Yeah I'm pretty happy overall - and I forgot to mention I also have Bell here, so next year I'll have Bell, Conner and Hunt.
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TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
tombonneau
Footballguy
skycriesmary
Climbing up the Walls
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Deal for Woods in two leagues today. PPR, 14 teamers for both.
1. Gave Fuller, got Woods, Doug Baldwin
2. Gave Landry, Taylor Gabriel, 2020 3rd, got Woods
1. Gave Fuller, got Woods, Doug Baldwin
2. Gave Landry, Taylor Gabriel, 2020 3rd, got Woods
Blick
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
EthnicFury
Footballguy
Think I like the woods side of both. He’s one of a select few young “win now” guys whose price hasn’t caught up with his production. McVay and that offense aren’t going anywhere
Blick
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Depends on roster makeup. I lean towards the Wentz side either way - but if team B had another too QB then it’s a win for team B.
Spin
Footballguy
10 team ppr 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/superflex/idp
Contract league with 40man rosters/100 year max
Team A is ranked 1, weak spot at wr with Green injury
Team B is probably missing playoffs, pretty much rebuild.
Team A gets:
Michael Thomas(3years left, including this one)
Team B gets:
Corey Davis (Taxi Squad, can assign any length contract)
2019 1.01
2019 2.01
Picks are based on potential points, so they're 99% going to be 1.1, 2.1 unless something insane happens as the owner is about 200 points back with 3 games left.
Contract league with 40man rosters/100 year max
Team A is ranked 1, weak spot at wr with Green injury
Team B is probably missing playoffs, pretty much rebuild.
Team A gets:
Michael Thomas(3years left, including this one)
Team B gets:
Corey Davis (Taxi Squad, can assign any length contract)
2019 1.01
2019 2.01
Picks are based on potential points, so they're 99% going to be 1.1, 2.1 unless something insane happens as the owner is about 200 points back with 3 games left.
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Zyphros
Footballguy
I assume you mean 1.10 and 2.10 with him being in 1st place. If so I think it makes sense for both teams, but it feels light for MT. I traded Davis/1st earlier in the year for Julio and MT is what 4-5 years younger?
Spin
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
jm192
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
tombonneau
Footballguy
Terrible value for AJ and Gronk. Just hold Gronk until he comes back and plays a few games, or deal him in offseason when reports are in about him "being in the best shape of his life." You're dealing him at his absolute bottom value for almost nothing. Ditto AJ.
One of the worst deals I've ever seen posted in here. It's not even like the other side has some upside pieces you can talk yourself into working out and becoming tops in their position. They all pretty much already are what they are.
I don't think that's true about Drake and Shep not having upside. Both are 24, have shown they have talent and are hovering around low-end RB/WR2. Drake has shown what he can do when he gets touches, and maybe Gore dies someday and he'll be able to get more consistently. Shep is a free agent after next season, and maybe he ends up some place with a better QB than Eli and less of a ball hog on the other side than Beckham. They've got a lot of years ahead of them where I could certainly see this being looked back on as a lopsided trade in favor of team B in five years. And, no, I'm not team B.
tombonneau
Footballguy
If Drake was going to be a RB1, this would be the year. Instead, he has been losing snaps to a RB who was college teammates with Clinton Portis. That's all you need to know about his upside.
Shep's upside is a steady WR2. And that's if he lands in the right situation on a good offense. Though to be fair, he probably has more long-term upside as a flex player than Drake, but give me 2-4 more years of AJ's WR1 production and ride into the sunset with Gronk and take the mega-games that are surely coming, or wait for a better exit position.
In fact, let me amend my statement: this isn't the worst trade I've ever seen in this thread. But it *is* the absolute two worst exit positions and ROI I've seen on top 10 positional vets.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I agree it's a very bad trade, but I do think you're underselling the upside of those guys somewhat.tombonneau said:
Gase has shown an unwillingness to give Drake lead work when not forced to, but when forced to Drake was pretty excellent with that kind of work. Gase may or may not be long for Miami. Drake certainly has upside if Gase is canned.
Shepard was quietly a strong WR1 when he played last year when OBJ was out, it just went somewhat unnoticed because Shep was dealing with his own injury issues and missed several games. When he was the lead WR last year he went 37-458 in 6 games which is a 98-1250 pace, and that was with him leaving a couple of those games early and playing banged up in others.
It's kind of surprising to me that still in 2018, with all the undersized WRs playing as lead WRs for their team, people are still so unwilling to consider that kind of upside for a player when they aren't 6'2". If Shepard were the same height as Courtland Sutton everyone would be trying to buy him up to see where he lands in FA.
I think one can talk themselves into the upside of plenty of players in the NFL. I think the odds that a RB whom was hand selected by his current coach in the 3rd round of the NFL draft and can't seem to take the lead back reigns over the course of three seasons ending up as the feature back for a new coach implementing a new scheme with his players is far closer to zero than it is to even 50/50. And to me it's extremely damning, no matter how inept he is as a coach, that Gase won't give the reigns to the guy that he hand picked and that he's seen up close for three seasons now.
Similarly, Shepard is WR2 on his current team. That's not changing. There is a chance that the Giants resign him in UFA in 2020 in which case his upside is forever as it stands currently (low). If they don't re-sign him, what are the odds that he's signed to be a WR1 for any other team in the NFL? I'd say that's closer to zero than Drake becoming a feature back is. So you're essentially hoping that he gets signed as a WR2 to a team with a much better offense and QB than the Giants. That's likely to happen, because the Giants suck right now but as a WR2 he needs to end up in an elite offense to offer fantasy upside as his team's WR2. Similarly to @tombonneau's stance, I see a low probability that the little upside in this deal is ever realized. More likely is you house two middling fantasy players that end up simply clogging your roster. If you're dealing AJ Green and Gronkowski, there's no doubt in my mind there are better deals out there and especially so for AJ Green.
Zyphros
Footballguy
Personally I wouldn't trade for Gronk at all unless it was a deal like this. That said, I'd easily pay that whole package for AJ himself so this is Gronk for free. Not to mention one of my favorite dart throws in Conley. I love me some Vance McDonald, but this is an easy win for the AJ/Gronk/Conley side.Shrugs said:
ghostguy123
Footballguy
FFPC 12 team PPR, 1.5 ppr for TE
Leveon Bell, Elijah Mcquire, David Njoku
For
Dalvin Cook, Chargers Defense
Teak getting Cook has no real RB-2 and is currently one victory point away from a 1st round bye.
Leveon Bell, Elijah Mcquire, David Njoku
For
Dalvin Cook, Chargers Defense
Teak getting Cook has no real RB-2 and is currently one victory point away from a 1st round bye.
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TheBottomLine
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
I don't understand Team B's thought process. Kerryon is looking like a really good young RB and Fournette is proving to be very fragile.
Obviously Team B must be one of the last remaining charter members of the Fournette Fan Club.
The picks are on the wrong side imo.
tombonneau
Footballguy
This. Picks are backwards. How many KJ owners would even deal him straight up for Fragile Freddie 2.0?
If this is any kind of ppr it's even worse.
12 Team, 24 man rosters, 0.5 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB/TE/WR), 1 K, 1 DEF
Gave: Dalvin Cook
Received George Kittle
My other RBs are Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Phillip Lindsay, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones, and Tarik Cohen and my other TEs are Jimmy Graham, Hayden Hurst, and Geoff Swaim.
I tried trading for Zach Ertz and O.J. Howard first but wasn't able to get a deal done. TEs are hard to acquire right now in dynasty.
Gave: Dalvin Cook
Received George Kittle
My other RBs are Alvin Kamara, Leonard Fournette, Phillip Lindsay, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones, and Tarik Cohen and my other TEs are Jimmy Graham, Hayden Hurst, and Geoff Swaim.
I tried trading for Zach Ertz and O.J. Howard first but wasn't able to get a deal done. TEs are hard to acquire right now in dynasty.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
So you dont actually need to start a TE? I like the Cook side personally and by a good bit.
Ah typo. It's
12 Team, 24 man rosters, 0.5 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB/TE/WR), 1 K, 1 DEF.
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Run It Up
Footballguy
League A, teams in transition: 12 team, 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4FLX TE premium ppr
Sent C. Wentz
Received 2019 1st(late), M. Williams
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Sent A. Jeffrey
Received 2019 1st(late), N. Agholor
League B, Team is easily top 2: 12 team 1QB, 1RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, some IDPs, TE premium ppr
Sent D. Lewis, K. Rudolph, Chandler Jones
Received 2019 1st (mid-late), M. Williams
Sent C. Wentz
Received 2019 1st(late), M. Williams
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Sent A. Jeffrey
Received 2019 1st(late), N. Agholor
League B, Team is easily top 2: 12 team 1QB, 1RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, some IDPs, TE premium ppr
Sent D. Lewis, K. Rudolph, Chandler Jones
Received 2019 1st (mid-late), M. Williams
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Turbo Punch
Footballguy
Team A gives Beckham and McCoy
Team B gives 2019 1st (mid) - 2019 1st (late) - 2019 2nd (late) - M Williams - Chark
Team B gives 2019 1st (mid) - 2019 1st (late) - 2019 2nd (late) - M Williams - Chark
kittenmittens
Footballguy
tombonneau
Footballguy
Tried to buy OBJ for similar - early first, late first, early second- plus Cooper but no joy. So kudos to you. McCoy is just icing.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Close, but I'll narrowly take the 3 side with the pick. Not sure I'd do it without the pick.
