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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (21 Viewers)
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ffmail4me
Footballguy
Is that the general consensus that Kerryon = Cook?? I will be honest, I didn't watch the Lions AT ALL last year, but I thought Cook was considered at least 1 tier if not 2 above him. I'm obviously very happy with the trade, but I wasn't even really targeting KJ when talks started.
I'll chalk this under lucky vs good on my part 
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ComfortablyNumb
Footballguy
FFPC
I gave Sony, Mike Williams, and 3.11
I received Nick Chubb
Gave a lot but I think (hope) Chubb is worth it...
I gave Sony, Mike Williams, and 3.11
I received Nick Chubb
Gave a lot but I think (hope) Chubb is worth it...
Zyphros
Footballguy
I honestly don't understand the hype around Chubb. He looked amazing for sure and I've been a fan of his since his freshman year at Georgia, but he isn't the pass catcher that people think he is in that offense. He's serviceable for sure in that area but FFPC is full PPR and Chubb is more of a better version of Fournette than anything.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
No, it is not.Is that the general consensus that Kerryon = Cook?? I will be honest, I didn't watch the Lions AT ALL last year, but I thought Cook was considered at least 1 tier if not 2 above him. I'm obviously very happy with the trade, but I wasn't even really targeting KJ when talks started.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'd rather have Cook than Johnson (but it's not that wide of a margin) - but the rest of the assets on the Johnson side make that trade totally in your favor.Is that the general consensus that Kerryon = Cook?? I will be honest, I didn't watch the Lions AT ALL last year, but I thought Cook was considered at least 1 tier if not 2 above him. I'm obviously very happy with the trade, but I wasn't even really targeting KJ when talks started.
I think to most Cook owners, the difference is significant. Cook = Kerryon + 2020 1st, I would say. Still there's a ton of decent talent coming along with Kerryon and the 1st which make it a no-brainer.
I don't think Mike Williams is ever going to pan out, so this is an upgrade I would take all day. I could be very wrong, and this season will tell us if Williams is worthwhile.
They have the same draft pedigree.
One has dealt with injuries and the other is two years older and has dealt with injuries and ineffectiveness. Guess who is who.
I think both of the Georgia RB's are pretty overrated right now so I'd take the Sony/Williams side and deal Sony for a RB I actually like or a draft pick. If I could do something like turn Sony into Kerryon I'd feel like I just got free Mike Williams.
I get what you are saying but let's be accurate here, both of them have dealt with injuries.
I'm editing this to add my next comment is what I'd classify as such a hard sale for people to buy into I would generally just choose to keep my opinion to myself but I'll put it out anyway. Cook's had a major injury and a few surgeries and I still consider him less of an injury risk then Kerryon going forward and that is one of two reasons I've got Dalvin higher then Kerryon. The reason I feel less confident of Kerryon remaining healthy is that sometimes injuries are just bad luck, which is how I view Dalvin. But Kerryon has a thin lower build(like Mcfadden to me) and an very upright running style so there are specific things that worry me about his ability to remain healthy, not just luck. Kerryon has missed games the only two years he's been the feature back, at least Dalvin in college held up a whole year.
I said there are two reasons I had Dalvin over Kerryon and Tangfoot touched on the other one. Dalvin gets Kubiak on staff and a team I just feel way more confident is going to try and make him a feature back and Kerryon has a a wannabe mini-Bellichick, well I guess not a mini version.
Saying all that I don't think it's crazy to equate Kerryon to Dalvin because he's been just as good per touch and is about 1.5 years younger. Got a little gap still between them myself, but it's more of a valid argument then I think people are considering.
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I'd take Williams over Sony right now, I would not take Williams over Chubb right now but I think in 1-2 years I will. He's a stud, just a matter of working his way into being a bigger part of the passing game.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I can't picture that being rejected when the picks are on the clock so why trade down now?Hankmoody said:
kutta
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Luck/Hilton about equals Wentz/Thielen.
But Miller/Kittle/1.10 is much better than Sutton/Rudolph/3.10
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Was ALMOST involved in this one, which I'll explain shortly.
Team A gave: Carson, 1.3, 2.3 picks
Team B gave: Thielen
The team that traded away Carson and the picks had sent me an offer of Carson, Golden Tate, 1.3, 2.3, and 2020 1st (early to mid) for Melvin Gordon. Right or not, I was literally clicking the button to accept when the other trade processed
So was I lucky or unlucky?
Team A gave: Carson, 1.3, 2.3 picks
Team B gave: Thielen
The team that traded away Carson and the picks had sent me an offer of Carson, Golden Tate, 1.3, 2.3, and 2020 1st (early to mid) for Melvin Gordon. Right or not, I was literally clicking the button to accept when the other trade processed
So was I lucky or unlucky?
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I see 3 good assets for 5 good assets in that deal. Luck/Kittle by a comfortable margin.
TartanLion
Footballguy
0.5 ppr 12 team league
Team A) Jordan Howard
Team B) Gus Edwards, 2019 2.12 pick, 2019 3.04 pick
Team A) Jordan Howard
Team B) Gus Edwards, 2019 2.12 pick, 2019 3.04 pick
I'd have taken that offer for Melvin.Was ALMOST involved in this one, which I'll explain shortly.
Team A gave: Carson, 1.3, 2.3 picks
Team B gave: Thielen
The team that traded away Carson and the picks had sent me an offer of Carson, Golden Tate, 1.3, 2.3, and 2020 1st (early to mid) for Melvin Gordon. Right or not, I was literally clicking the button to accept when the other trade processed
Zyphros
Footballguy
I know it's controversial but I take Guice > Cook by himself. Plus the 1st? Thanks for the longevity.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I don't go that far. I prefer Cook simply because we've seen him on a football field and we haven't Guice yet. Add in the non-traditional ACL recovery and he's got quite a bit more risk than standard. I had no fear adding Dalvin after his rookie year, I have a lot more trepidation with Guice.
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
12 Team PPR, 1.5 PPR
Team A got Kenny Golladay, Antonio Callaway, OJ Howard 1.7, 2.7
Team B got Antonio Brown, Kyle Rudolph
Team A got Kenny Golladay, Antonio Callaway, OJ Howard 1.7, 2.7
Team B got Antonio Brown, Kyle Rudolph
jwsbowler
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC, not involved
Robert Woods, Alshon Jeffrey, Mack, Lindsay and 4.1
for
Hopkins, Duke Johnson, Curtis Samuel, Eckler, 2.9
Robert Woods, Alshon Jeffrey, Mack, Lindsay and 4.1
for
Hopkins, Duke Johnson, Curtis Samuel, Eckler, 2.9
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
surprises me a bit, I know he is best wr in the game but this deal seems like 4 starters for 1. Guy who got the 4 didn't have much outside Nuk and now his team looks decent to me
Tejas
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
really I don't think Aaron Jones is some lock to be a long term answer in GB at RB, and he is in the drug program, would it shock you if GB draft someone or went after a FA RB? Landry is what he is, I suspect he is the security blanket for Baker for awhile.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC
thielen
for
1.7, Lockett, 2020 2nd
thielen
for
1.7, Lockett, 2020 2nd
I recall you posting a similar trade you did a few weeks ago where you got Cooks.
In this case the team that got Howard is a major contender, flush at WR and TE was weak spot so made sense for them.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Mizelle ADP has them at 43rd and 44th off the board in current startups. Can't get much more even than that.
I'd prefer swinging bigger with Jones, but if I had a deep backfield and needed a WR, I'd take Landry. There's at least a decent chance that Jones never grabs control of that backfield. Landry is boring as hell but he should be a steady contribute on a rising offense for several years still.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Good exit value for Hopkins if you have a pretty bad team. Just depends on quality of the roster in question. On strong teams I'd prefer Hop.
OJ for me in TE premium, assuming it's a big upgrade to the current option.
Great value for Thielen. Probably take the Lockett side regardless of strength of squad.
