ratbast 138 Posted October 15 I’m being offered Nuk for Chark and my 2021 1st (5 keeper so like 6th round redraft with top rooks. No ppr) I’m going to take it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 4,415 Posted October 15 55 minutes ago, ratbast said: I’m being offered Nuk for Chark and my 2021 1st (5 keeper so like 6th round redraft with top rooks. No ppr) I’m going to take it. Take Nuk and run as fast as you can. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EthnicFury 62 Posted October 15 I love chark but I’d snap accept that 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midazolam 0 Posted October 15 2QB 0.5 PPR league Gave: Gardner Minshew, Austin Ekeler, Mike Williams & late 1st Received: Amari Cooper & early 2nd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coachoneill 23 Posted October 15 20 hours ago, doowain said: DST values are so up and down year to year that this is an easy trade to make. I did a similar deal in 2017 when I gave up the Jacksonville DST for Kenny Golladay. JAX D was lighting it up and was far and away the best DST that year, but I jumped at that trade and have reaped the benefits since. Similarly, Diontae Johnson is a young, upside WR who has flashed (much like Golladay in 2017). Great job. Yea most DST values (especially with extreme outliers like NE D so far) are dependent on turnovers and defensive TD's, which tend to be highly variable. Also has the added benefit of getting the Pats D out of my lineup, which given how they're playing might help me lose a few more games. If I won't win the title, then I'd rather pick 1.5 in 2020 than 1.7 or 8. Additionally the extra third helps. I've got 2 2020 1sts, 2 seconds, and now three thirds. The plan is to eventually consolidate some of those picks into a trade up or as add ons during offseason deals. Every little bit of ammo help.s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,413 Posted October 15 Just traded Frank Gore (who plays the Dolphins horrible run defense this week) for Ronald Jones (who's on bye). If I lose, but would have won with Gore I'll kick myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gottabesweet 849 Posted October 15 Can't believe it got accepted but 12 team PPR deep dynasty league. Sent - Tribusky, Ito Smith, Jake Kumerov, 4th Got - Kyler, Hooper, 5th. Owner starts Ty Montgomery and Gio Bernard at RB. Literally has nothing else. Sold the Ito idea a bit and Tribusky clearing bye week. (His backup QB is Rosen) 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bazinga! 283 Posted October 15 12t ppr Hopkins and Andrews for McLaurin, Njoku, M Williams, 2020 2nd, 2021 1st and 2nd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayWhat? 2,990 Posted October 15 15 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said: Can't believe it got accepted but 12 team PPR deep dynasty league. Sent - Tribusky, Ito Smith, Jake Kumerov, 4th Got - Kyler, Hooper, 5th. Owner starts Ty Montgomery and Gio Bernard at RB. Literally has nothing else. Sold the Ito idea a bit and Tribusky clearing bye week. (His backup QB is Rosen) Can’t believe you’d send that. “Sold the Ito idea” of what, exactly? Here’s another ####ty RB to add to your collection of ####ty RBs, fresh off three carries for six yards. That should really bolster your backfield. Yuck. Vetoable. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gottabesweet 849 Posted October 15 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SayWhat? said: Can’t believe you’d send that. “Sold the Ito idea” of what, exactly? Here’s another ####ty RB to add to your collection of ####ty RBs, fresh off three carries for six yards. That should really bolster your backfield. Yuck. Vetoable. Even if I wasn't involved in this deal and felt the same way I'd never veto a trade. Ridiculous. So glad none of the leagues I play in use the veto. Matthew Berry said it best "veto the veto" and I've been on the other side many of times thinking darn, I would have gave way more than that. "Can't believe you'd send that" - Well I was hoping for a counter - even typed in the trade box, let me know if this works, if not counter please. Edited October 15 by Gottabesweet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayWhat? 2,990 Posted October 15 22 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said: Even if I wasn't involved in this deal and felt the same way I'd never veto a trade. Ridiculous. So glad none of the leagues I play in use the veto. Matthew Berry said it best "veto the veto" and I've been on the other side many of times thinking darn, I would have gave way more than that. "Can't believe you'd send that" - Well I was hoping for a counter - even typed in the trade box, let me know if this works, if not counter please. Nor would I, and none of my leagues do either. But if they did, this would be in the bylaws under Veto Examples. But hey, at least he upgraded his 5th to a 4th and added Kumerow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TartanLion 500 Posted October 15 Can I price check George Kittle ? I’m on my first season taking over a dynasty orphan and it’s looking like I’m going to be a contender ( 10-2 record, double headers every week ). I’m weak at TE with only Ebron, Eifert and Demetrius Harris. Is Kittle worth a 2020 1st round likely late pick ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gottabesweet 849 Posted October 15 2 minutes ago, TartanLion said: Can I price check George Kittle ? I’m on my first season taking over a dynasty orphan and it’s looking like I’m going to be a contender ( 10-2 record, double headers every week ). I’m weak at TE with only Ebron, Eifert and Demetrius Harris. Is Kittle worth a 2020 1st round likely late pick ? Yes - worth a late 1st for sure. I'd wait to see how he practices this week, he was losing some second half snaps. Hopefully the groin is fine. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeJoe88 213 Posted October 15 10 minutes ago, TartanLion said: Can I price check George Kittle ? I’m on my first season taking over a dynasty orphan and it’s looking like I’m going to be a contender ( 10-2 record, double headers every week ). I’m weak at TE with only Ebron, Eifert and Demetrius Harris. Is Kittle worth a 2020 1st round likely late pick ? Easily. I would not let him go for that cheap, personally. But if the owner is willing then take that and run. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 10,206 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, matttyl said: Just traded Frank Gore (who plays the Dolphins horrible run defense this week) for Ronald Jones (who's on bye). If I lose, but would have won with Gore I'll kick myself. Some one traded Ronald Jones for Frank Gore in a dynasty league? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 10,206 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Gottabesweet said: Can't believe it got accepted but 12 team PPR deep dynasty league. Sent - Tribusky, Ito Smith, Jake Kumerov, 4th Got - Kyler, Hooper, 5th. Owner starts Ty Montgomery and Gio Bernard at RB. Literally has nothing else. Sold the Ito idea a bit and Tribusky clearing bye week. (His backup QB is Rosen) Wow. Some really bad dynasty owners out there. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 10,206 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, SayWhat? said: Can’t believe you’d send that. “Sold the Ito idea” of what, exactly? Here’s another ####ty RB to add to your collection of ####ty RBs, fresh off three carries for six yards. That should really bolster your backfield. Yuck. Vetoable. Clearly you missed the pick upgrade. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,413 Posted October 15 44 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said: Some one traded Ronald Jones for Frank Gore in a dynasty league? yes. Yes he did. But it's very much a one week move for the one team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayWhat? 2,990 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, matttyl said: yes. Yes he did. But it's very much a one week move for the one team. Which is always the best way to approach a dynasty league from a tactical perspective. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gottabesweet 849 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, SayWhat? said: Which is always the best way to approach a dynasty league from a tactical perspective. You’d be surprised how many owners do this or panic on byes and let their redraft instincts kick in. Not everyone as seen many times in this league is in all shark leagues lol. I sent an offer hoping to get a counter that turned into a deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Dan 4,909 Posted October 16 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Gottabesweet said: You’d be surprised how many owners do this or panic on byes and let their redraft instincts kick in. Not everyone as seen many times in this league is in all shark leagues lol. I sent an offer hoping to get a counter that turned into a deal. I recently offered a guy Knox, has Olsen as his only backup te. He declined the trade (which was a very reasonable offer) and said he doesnt know who Knox is and is just fine at TE. Edited October 16 by Dr. Dan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maven25 54 Posted October 16 Team A: Kerryon Johnson Team B: Steffon Diggs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hispeedthinmint 133 Posted October 16 PPR league Team A gave: Mike Evans, M. Brown & Ebron Team B gave: Juju & A. Tate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RushHour 521 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Maven25 said: Team A: Kerryon Johnson Team B: Steffon Diggs Fair but Diggs all day Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,413 Posted October 16 15 hours ago, SayWhat? said: Which is always the best way to approach a dynasty league from a tactical perspective. If Gore puts up a huge week this week (against the 32nd ranked Miami run defense), and the guy wins his game because of it (and would have lost otherwise), it may very well end up that he made a decent move. R Jones is on bye - no guarantee he'll ever win that starting job, much less win the guy a game single handed. 10 teamer where the guy is right in the mix for one of the last playoff spots right now. Would you give Ronald Jones up to give yourself one more win over a 13 game season? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 10,206 Posted October 16 (edited) 40 minutes ago, matttyl said: If Gore puts up a huge week this week (against the 32nd ranked Miami run defense), and the guy wins his game because of it (and would have lost otherwise), it may very well end up that he made a decent move. R Jones is on bye - no guarantee he'll ever win that starting job, much less win the guy a game single handed. 10 teamer where the guy is right in the mix for one of the last playoff spots right now. Would you give Ronald Jones up to give yourself one more win over a 13 game season? This is NOT the way dynasty owners should be thinking, especially when you consider the odds that Gore is a difference maker even for one week are very small. Singletary is back this week as well. The fact that he needs to make a desperation move like this just for a chance to make the playoffs makes it even worse - he's obviously not a major contender. Could this pay off? Sure anything could. Maybe he make the playoffs because of this one game and goes on a run and wins it all. Maybe Jones is a total bust (despite owning him in one league I'm actually not a huge fan) but once again playing long odds for short-term gain is not a good dynasty strategy. Edited October 16 by Dr. Octopus 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TartanLion 500 Posted October 16 13 hours ago, Dr. Dan said: I recently offered a guy Knox, has Olsen as his only backup te. He declined the trade (which was a very reasonable offer) and said he doesnt know who Knox is and is just fine at TE. I’m TE needy and sent a 2020 3rd round pick ( late likely ) for Knox. No reply for a week so revoked it, and will try something else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gottabesweet 849 Posted October 16 13 hours ago, Dr. Dan said: I recently offered a guy Knox, has Olsen as his only backup te. He declined the trade (which was a very reasonable offer) and said he doesnt know who Knox is and is just fine at TE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,413 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said: This is NOT the way dynasty owners should be thinking, especially when you consider the odds that Gore is a difference maker even for one week are very small. Singletary is back this week as well. The fact that he needs to make a desperation move like this just for a chance to make the playoffs makes it even worse - he's obviously not a major contender. Could this pay off? Sure anything could. Maybe he make the playoffs because of this one game and goes on a run and wins it all. Maybe Jones is a total bust (despite owning him in one league I'm actually not a huge fan) but once again playing long odds for short-term gain is not a good dynasty strategy. I totally get all that, I really do. There's just a really fine line (most years) between the last team in the playoffs and the first team out of them. His matchup this week is the only matchup he'll have against this one other team that's also right in the middle of the pack, and we use head to head as the first tie breaker for playoffs. If I had to part with my #4/#5 RB to make the difference between 7-6 and 8-5, I'd very likely do it (he's not ever started Jones after drafting him). Will all depend if it works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Octopus 10,206 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, matttyl said: Will all depend if it works. Bad process sometimes leads to good results but its still bad process. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 241 Posted October 16 We had a "big boy trades" in 12 Team Full PPR (1/2/2/1/2 Flex) Team A: Gave up Saquon Barclay NYG RB Team B: Gave up THREE (3) 1st Round, a 3rd & a 4th 2020 Picks (1 mid/early & 2 Late projected for 1st rounders) Team A (1-5) has redirected to "rebuild" and B (4-2) is going "all in"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kittenmittens 1,038 Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Birdie048 said: We had a "big boy trades" in 12 Team Full PPR (1/2/2/1/2 Flex) Team A: Gave up Saquon Barclay NYG RB Team B: Gave up THREE (3) 1st Round, a 3rd & a 4th 2020 Picks (1 mid/early & 2 Late projected for 1st rounders) Team A (1-5) has redirected to "rebuild" and B (4-2) is going "all in"! Barkley. I'd need 4 firsts for Barkley unless 2 of them were definitely early. He's just too good. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TVT 0 N S T A 5 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, matttyl said: If Gore puts up a huge week this week (against the 32nd ranked Miami run defense), and the guy wins his game because of it (and would have lost otherwise), it may very well end up that he made a decent move. R Jones is on bye - no guarantee he'll ever win that starting job, much less win the guy a game single handed. 10 teamer where the guy is right in the mix for one of the last playoff spots right now. Would you give Ronald Jones up to give yourself one more win over a 13 game season? Mortgage your future for a player that has been on the verge of obscurity all season for a single game win? Nope. This is dynasty, correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zyphros 1,413 Posted October 16 Made a bit of a risky trade in an FFPC league in my rebuild I traded away Nuk I got Sutton, Miles Sanders, 2020 1st (mid?, the guy is 2-4 and 8th in VP so it could end up being early as well) Gives me 4 1sts next year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BearsFan4Life 126 Posted October 16 (edited) 14 Team .. NO PPR .. Standard Scoring A Gave: Watson, DFreeman, 2020 Late 2nd Round Pick (Owns Mahomes and Brissett) B Gave: Brees, Fournette, 2020 1st Round Pick (Currently #3-6) Edited October 16 by BearsFan4Life 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnSKINS26 4,759 Posted October 16 On 10/15/2019 at 12:25 PM, matttyl said: Just traded Frank Gore (who plays the Dolphins horrible run defense this week) for Ronald Jones (who's on bye). If I lose, but would have won with Gore I'll kick myself. On 10/15/2019 at 1:06 PM, Gottabesweet said: Can't believe it got accepted but 12 team PPR deep dynasty league. Sent - Tribusky, Ito Smith, Jake Kumerov, 4th Got - Kyler, Hooper, 5th. Owner starts Ty Montgomery and Gio Bernard at RB. Literally has nothing else. Sold the Ito idea a bit and Tribusky clearing bye week. (His backup QB is Rosen) Why are some people so bad at this hobby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matttyl 2,413 Posted October 16 A fun one - Larry Fitz straight for Antonio Brown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 4,415 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, matttyl said: A fun one - Larry Fitz straight for Antonio Brown. I'd take a chance on AB at that price. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gottabesweet 849 Posted October 17 3 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said: Why are some people so bad at this hobby. Because they want to fit in and have something to talk about at the Water cooler? No idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gottabesweet 849 Posted October 17 Not involved. Deep rosters a couple teams needed QBs 12 team all QBs owned Rosen and Fitzpatrick for Gore and Dorsett. Cousins and Kyle Rudolph for Dede Westbrook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zyphros 1,413 Posted October 17 FFPC again Sent: Curtis Samuel and a 2nd Got: Herndon and a 3rd Already had Engram and OJ Howard, but couldn't pass up the future value in what Herndon could be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wgoldsph 378 Posted October 17 Can someone please explain to me why I can't get top ten rb price return on Mark Ingram? Are people afraid he's not going to keep getting (and converting) goal line touches for a prolific running offense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Dufresne 7,763 Posted October 17 6 minutes ago, wgoldsph said: Can someone please explain to me why I can't get top ten rb price return on Mark Ingram? Are people afraid he's not going to keep getting (and converting) goal line touches for a prolific running offense? Because he's turning the magical age of 30 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycriesmary 485 Posted October 17 10 Team Dynasty, PPR Team A receives K Golliday, C Sutton Team B receives C Godwin, M Mariota Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVBEER99 1,196 Posted October 17 9 minutes ago, wgoldsph said: Can someone please explain to me why I can't get top ten rb price return on Mark Ingram? Are people afraid he's not going to keep getting (and converting) goal line touches for a prolific running offense? Huh? You expect top 10 value from Ingram in a dynasty league? Not happening unless you have complete idiots in your league Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wgoldsph 378 Posted October 17 2 minutes ago, ILUVBEER99 said: Huh? You expect top 10 value from Ingram in a dynasty league? Not happening unless you have complete idiots in your league Crazy to expect equal value to what he's producing I know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 6,882 Posted October 17 9 minutes ago, wgoldsph said: Crazy to expect equal value to what he's producing I know. When he's a 30 year old running back, yes you're right it is crazy to expect equal value to what he's producing. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wgoldsph 378 Posted October 17 40 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said: When he's a 30 year old running back, yes you're right it is crazy to expect equal value to what he's producing. Late first? Or do we have different ideas as to what equal value for him is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnSKINS26 4,759 Posted October 17 29 minutes ago, wgoldsph said: Late first? Or do we have different ideas as to what equal value for him is? You said top 10 value. I don't think many would describe a late 1st as top 10 value, whether they'd pay it for Ingram is another thing. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wgoldsph 378 Posted October 17 6 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: You said top 10 value. I don't think many would describe a late 1st as top 10 value, whether they'd pay it for Ingram is another thing. You're right. I apologize. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites