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14 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Wow - great trade for you. I can not figure out why the other guy would even consider it.

Thinking Hunt was likely to just get a 6 game suspension getting Hunt and Fournette is a lot to acquire/give up. I have a teammate in this league and this was not an instant accept for both of us, keeping in mind this was before he got cut.

So seemed like a reasonable trade to me before he was cut, in fact would have thought a good amount of people would think we were on the losing side. Doubt Hunt is done but also doubt he finds as good a situation so now it looks more one sided but I thought it was adequate before the release news.

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20 minutes ago, menobrown said:

Thinking Hunt was likely to just get a 6 game suspension getting Hunt and Fournette is a lot to acquire/give up. I have a teammate in this league and this was not an instant accept for both of us, keeping in mind this was before he got cut.

So seemed like a reasonable trade to me before he was cut, in fact would have thought a good amount of people would think we were on the losing side. Doubt Hunt is done but also doubt he finds as good a situation so now it looks more one sided but I thought it was adequate before the release news.

The way I read your post it seemed like the deal was made after he was released. I think even before then, Hunt became a risky proposition but that would make it more reasonable.

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1 minute ago, Dr. Octopus said:

The way I read your post it seemed like the deal was made after he was released. I think even before then, Hunt became a risky proposition but that would make it more reasonable.

I edited my post to make it more clear, thanks.

Hard for me to have thought of Hunt as that big of a risk before cutting cut. Would never have thought Chiefs would cut him since they already knew of the incident and have him on a cheap deal for two more years. Then factoring in Mixon still going in round two and it rarely ever being brought up regarding him this is not an outcome I'd have ever expected. Biggest risk I felt on Hunt was he remained on exempt list this year and the 6 game suspension did not start till next year. Never saw this coming.

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In one PPR dynasty league I gave Ronald Jones for Spencer Ware.  This was to guard against A J Green's injury.   I might regret it long term but that team is pretty good as it is and I want back-to-back titles.

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35 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

In one PPR dynasty league I gave Ronald Jones for Spencer Ware.  This was to guard against A J Green's injury.   I might regret it long term but that team is pretty good as it is and I want back-to-back titles.

Ware is no slouch. Love that trade for you.

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6 hours ago, Slider said:

Saw a ppr Kareem Hunt for Chris Carson.  

Any other Hunt trades? Offered a early second to owner deep at RB. Never know an owners mindset. Based on some of these Hunt threads some out there think he'll never play again; I obviously disagree. 

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On 11/19/2018 at 2:35 PM, Henry Ford said:

A: Marcus Mariota

B: Rashaad Penny

Looking back at the last few pages, I’d like to point out to everyone who says qbs are not worth anything. They are. Every year there’s someone who runs into a problem and needs a qb, you just have to take advantage and know the rosters. I’ve made the following moves over the last couple seasons simply based on need of the other team-

kessler for 5th, 16 team full idp. Team had one qb and a bunch of picks, Kessler was Cleveland’s starter st the time. 

Mariota for future 1st- MM 2nd year, team contending lost starter for the year. Ended up being 1.10.

trubisky for guice(ir)- again, contending team whose backup was out and needed a spot start, this was the deal he could get (and trubisky has been decent, so he may get the better end eventually)

I know this may just seem like gloating (maybe it is) but I just want to illustrate how “I only carry 1-2 qbs in dynasty” can be extorted. 

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2 hours ago, Snorkelson said:

Looking back at the last few pages, I’d like to point out to everyone who says qbs are not worth anything. They are. Every year there’s someone who runs into a problem and needs a qb, you just have to take advantage and know the rosters. I’ve made the following moves over the last couple seasons simply based on need of the other team-

kessler for 5th, 16 team full idp. Team had one qb and a bunch of picks, Kessler was Cleveland’s starter st the time. 

Mariota for future 1st- MM 2nd year, team contending lost starter for the year. Ended up being 1.10.

trubisky for guice(ir)- again, contending team whose backup was out and needed a spot start, this was the deal he could get (and trubisky has been decent, so he may get the better end eventually)

I know this may just seem like gloating (maybe it is) but I just want to illustrate how “I only carry 1-2 qbs in dynasty” can be extorted. 

Absolutely.  16 team IDP league with deep rosters, and I’d much rather carry a fourth QB than an extra DB.

I trade a QB about once a year, right before the trade deadline. 

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I'll preface this by saying I probably paid too much in this PPR DEVY league, but I'm willing to risk it.

Gave Kerryon Johnson, Ronald Jones, mid-1st rd rookie (we have separate drafts for rookies and devys and most good players for the next couple of drafts are already on rosters and this is a rookie pick, not a devy pick (meaning you can't take an underclassman))

Got Kareem Hunt, Mike Weber, and a high 2nd rd rookie pick (probably 2.01 or 2.02). 

I'm realizing Jones may have been a mistake pick given his vision, size, and inabilities in the passing game.  I like Kerryon Johnson, don't like the Lions, but in the end I like Hunt more than Johnson.  I believe Hunt will sit out most of 2019, if not all, but by 2020 I truly believe I'll reap the rewards with Hunt over KJ.  Hunt is currently 23 years old.  All this talk about him never playing again (ala Ray Rice) isn't impossible to fathom, but I believe some team (Eagles or Ravens) will claim him. In the end, if he never plays again I'll admit my mistake and move on.

 

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10 team 2QB 3WR 3RB 2TE 1FLEX .5ppr

I got: AB and Michel

I gave: Evans and Yeldon

I get compete pieces and he gets youth.  I really like Yeldon for next year so that was hard to give him up, but something I couldn't say no to.  

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4 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

I'll preface this by saying I probably paid too much in this PPR DEVY league, but I'm willing to risk it.

Gave Kerryon Johnson, Ronald Jones, mid-1st rd rookie (we have separate drafts for rookies and devys and most good players for the next couple of drafts are already on rosters and this is a rookie pick, not a devy pick (meaning you can't take an underclassman))

Got Kareem Hunt, Mike Weber, and a high 2nd rd rookie pick (probably 2.01 or 2.02). 

I'm realizing Jones may have been a mistake pick given his vision, size, and inabilities in the passing game.  I like Kerryon Johnson, don't like the Lions, but in the end I like Hunt more than Johnson.  I believe Hunt will sit out most of 2019, if not all, but by 2020 I truly believe I'll reap the rewards with Hunt over KJ.  Hunt is currently 23 years old.  All this talk about him never playing again (ala Ray Rice) isn't impossible to fathom, but I believe some team (Eagles or Ravens) will claim him. In the end, if he never plays again I'll admit my mistake and move on.

 

I like buying low on Hunt, but Kerryon+ is probably too rich for my blood.

disclaimer: I don’t play devy or know who mike Weber even is

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12 Team PPR

Two trades.  Team B is the same in both. 

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Team A gave up:

Coutee, Keke HOU WR

Ross, John CIN WR

Valdes-Scantling, Marquez GBP WR

2019 1.01 Rookie Pick

2019 1.03 Rookie Pick

2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A (in playoffs)

Team B gave up:

Beckham, Odell NYG WR

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Team A gave up:

Guice, Derrius WAS RB

2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A (in playoffs)

Team B gave up:

Brown, Antonio PIT WR

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11 hours ago, gianmarco said:

Still crazy?

Yes. Crazy that you’re quoting me without context of the trade I was referencing. 

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On 11/7/2018 at 8:04 PM, Turbo Punch said:

Traded

A Jones, Pettis,  Chark

received

Watkins, Olsen, Ajayi

 

 

 

There you go.

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5 hours ago, doowain said:

12 Team PPR

Two trades.  Team B is the same in both. 

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Team A gave up:

Coutee, Keke HOU WR

Ross, John CIN WR

Valdes-Scantling, Marquez GBP WR

2019 1.01 Rookie Pick

2019 1.03 Rookie Pick

2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A (in playoffs)

Team B gave up:

Beckham, Odell NYG WR

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Team A gave up:

Guice, Derrius WAS RB

2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A (in playoffs)

Team B gave up:

Brown, Antonio PIT WR

The 2nd deal I like a lot, I'd trade AB for Guice straight up if I were in rebuild so adding a 1st to the repertoire is a nice.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the 1st trade though.  It's bench cloggers and premium picks for arguably the top dynasty WR.  Maybe I'll understand it more when I review the 2019 class but right now, I don't particularly like trading OBJ for that.  

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14 hours ago, Zyphros said:

The 2nd deal I like a lot, I'd trade AB for Guice straight up if I were in rebuild so adding a 1st to the repertoire is a nice.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the 1st trade though.  It's bench cloggers and premium picks for arguably the top dynasty WR.  Maybe I'll understand it more when I review the 2019 class but right now, I don't particularly like trading OBJ for that.  

I agree the 2nd deal was definitely won by the team getting Guice + 1st.

As for the 1st deal... that's interesting. Those three players hold very little value to me - bench cloggers, as you say. But ultimately how you feel about the WRs in this draft will impact how you value the trade. Getting not just two firsts, but 1.01 and 1.03 is pretty nice. Statistically it's only likely the team hits on one of the two draft picks, meaning they likely get a little worse (1.01 or 1.03 WR should be very good to count as a hit at that position, but unlikely to be OBJ's level) but maybe 5 years younger. Now if they defy the odds and hit on both draft picks, then I think it becomes a good trade. Similarly if they end up with Treadwell + Corey Coleman or Cooper + Parker they will have soundly lost the trade.

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On 12/2/2018 at 10:41 AM, JohnnyU said:

I'll preface this by saying I probably paid too much in this PPR DEVY league, but I'm willing to risk it.

Gave Kerryon Johnson, Ronald Jones, mid-1st rd rookie (we have separate drafts for rookies and devys and most good players for the next couple of drafts are already on rosters and this is a rookie pick, not a devy pick (meaning you can't take an underclassman))

Got Kareem Hunt, Mike Weber, and a high 2nd rd rookie pick (probably 2.01 or 2.02). 

I'm realizing Jones may have been a mistake pick given his vision, size, and inabilities in the passing game.  I like Kerryon Johnson, don't like the Lions, but in the end I like Hunt more than Johnson.  I believe Hunt will sit out most of 2019, if not all, but by 2020 I truly believe I'll reap the rewards with Hunt over KJ.  Hunt is currently 23 years old.  All this talk about him never playing again (ala Ray Rice) isn't impossible to fathom, but I believe some team (Eagles or Ravens) will claim him. In the end, if he never plays again I'll admit my mistake and move on.

 

I think you gave too much for Hunt

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A couple of last minute trades completed before our trade deadlines last night (kickoff of the week 14 TNF game.) 12 team PPR leagues:

Just missed the playoffs gets: Bell, AJG, Will Fuller, '19 1st (10~12 range), mid-3rd, mid-4th

Playoff team that lost Hunt & Conner gets: Mixon, Julio, Dante Pettis

 

Different league:

Playoff Team hurting at WR gets: Corey Davis, Gerald Everett, 4.01 (didn't start Davis last night due to the matchup)

Rebuilder with no TE gets: Evan Engram, Mike Williams, mid/late 3rd.

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* updated thread title before I forget.

If you have trading open once you are eliminated, feel free to post!

 

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My league allows year around trading but I’ll post it here anyway.  I’m a Gordon owner, although with my depth I’m not sure I’d start Jackson anyway this week.  So more of a 2019 and beyond trade. 

12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/2/1 and a flex. 

I give 2019 2nd (will be 2.07 or 2.08)

I get Justin Jackson and 2019 3rd (prob 3.11 or 3.12)

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On 12/5/2018 at 9:37 AM, gianmarco said:

Still crazy?

Yes, because you don't judge a trade by month old results.

Although looking at the trade, I didn't think it was crazy in the first place.  I'm no longer enamored of Watkins and was very high on both Jones and Pettis (had him as my #2 rookie WR this year) so I would have been ok with the trade.  I think he could have gotten "more" out of Watkins and of course would have pushed for that based on market value at the time, but would have taken it if pressed.

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2 minutes ago, Bazinga! said:

Not involved 1ppr

 

Playoff team gets TY Hilton

Rebuilder gets early 2019 2nd

 

IMO, the rebuilder gave TY away way too cheap

Trades like this are probably why he's rebuilding. 

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20 hours ago, Andrew74 said:

My league allows year around trading but I’ll post it here anyway.  I’m a Gordon owner, although with my depth I’m not sure I’d start Jackson anyway this week.  So more of a 2019 and beyond trade. 

12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/2/1 and a flex. 

I give 2019 2nd (will be 2.07 or 2.08)

I get Justin Jackson and 2019 3rd (prob 3.11 or 3.12)

Any thoughts on this?  I wasn’t sure what Jackson was worth and just like to know if I was in the ballpark. 

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21 hours ago, Andrew74 said:

My league allows year around trading but I’ll post it here anyway.  I’m a Gordon owner, although with my depth I’m not sure I’d start Jackson anyway this week.  So more of a 2019 and beyond trade. 

12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/2/1 and a flex. 

I give 2019 2nd (will be 2.07 or 2.08)

I get Justin Jackson and 2019 3rd (prob 3.11 or 3.12)

Fairly even deal imo.  Slight edge to you.

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2 hours ago, Bazinga! said:

Not involved 1ppr

 

Playoff team gets TY Hilton

Rebuilder gets early 2019 2nd

 

IMO, the rebuilder gave TY away way too cheap

I'd been trying to pry him away for a first plus flex depth from rebuilder but no dice. 

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3 hours ago, Bazinga! said:

Not involved 1ppr

 

Playoff team gets TY Hilton

Rebuilder gets early 2019 2nd

 

IMO, the rebuilder gave TY away way too cheap

Top 10 ppg WR for a 2nd?  I'll trade all my 1sts for multiple 2nds if I could do that with each of them...

Close to collusive.

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Just now, Arodin said:

Top 10 ppg WR for a 2nd?  I'll trade all my 1sts for multiple 2nds if I could do that with each of them...

Close to collusive.

It wasn't collusion.  Ironically it was a trade between 2 owners that don't even like each other.  The owner that traded Hilton is one of those owners who thinks they are good, talks a lot of ####,  but actually sucks and he just doesn't know it.  This trade is proof

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14 Team - No PPR - Standard Scoring - Start 1 qb, 1rb, 1wr, 2 flex, 1 te, 1k ,1d

Gave:  DJohnson, Golladay, Kupp

Got: McCaffrey, CGodwin, Hines

Rolling into semifinals with DJohnson scared me. Probably overpaid for McCaffrey but going for the win this year.  I now start Mahomes, McCaffrey, Hopkins, Thielen, KAllen, Kelce, Tucker, LARams.  I still have Watson, Bell, Freeman, AJGreen, Godwin, Dede Westbrook, Kittle on the bench.  Gave some young depth, but top RB hard to come by.

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7 hours ago, Andrew74 said:

Any thoughts on this?  I wasn’t sure what Jackson was worth and just like to know if I was in the ballpark. 

I prefer the 2nd, personally, so I’d call it an overpay. I haven’t watched Jackson yet, however, so I could be off.

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14 hours ago, Matt's Eagles said:

20 Team PPR


Team A got AJ Green 
Team B got C Kirk, D Hamilton, pick 31, pick 57 

Kirk and the picks for me. Great time to move on from AJ Green.

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