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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (19 Viewers)
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MaclinYo Eleven said:
Pwingles
Footballguy
Brownsfan
Footballguy
Would appreciate your thoughts on this deal that went down in our 2nd year ppr deep roster 12 team dynasty
Team A gave up
Cam Newton, Shane Vereen and Michael Crabtree
Team B gave up
Alex Smith, Zack Zenner and Torrey Smith SF
Has prompted some discussion with some owners wanting to void the deal
Team A gave up
Cam Newton, Shane Vereen and Michael Crabtree
Team B gave up
Alex Smith, Zack Zenner and Torrey Smith SF
Has prompted some discussion with some owners wanting to void the deal
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Not voidable. Alex Smith is much better than he's given credit for.
I'd rather have the Cam side but the deal isn't terribly out of balance at all.
I'd rather have the Cam side but the deal isn't terribly out of balance at all.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Unless collusion is involved, no trade should be voidable. In any case, I have no idea what side A was thinking here.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Rolling the dice that Zenner will be Detroit's main guy and that Kelly can get more out of Smith.
1st offseason trade for me. 12 Team, PPR, 1 Flex
I give up Carlos Hyde, Emmanuel Sanders
I acquire David Johnson
Current rbs: Gurley, Sims, Crowell, CJ Anderson, Ellington
Current Wrs: OBJ, Josh Gordon, Mathews, Julio, Davante Parker, Michael Floyd, Kenny bell
Now I can trot out Gurley and DJ, OBJ, Julio, Gordon and Mathews/Parker
I give up Carlos Hyde, Emmanuel Sanders
I acquire David Johnson
Current rbs: Gurley, Sims, Crowell, CJ Anderson, Ellington
Current Wrs: OBJ, Josh Gordon, Mathews, Julio, Davante Parker, Michael Floyd, Kenny bell
Now I can trot out Gurley and DJ, OBJ, Julio, Gordon and Mathews/Parker
Team B missing some compensation....a 1st rounder and I could see this is "somewhat" even.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm not sure you can void the deal - unless there are some indications of collusion - but it's worth looking into, as it's a horrific deal (and I'm a believer in Zenner and always liked Smith more than most).
Team A would certainly need to explain to me as a commissioner as to why he made the deal and how he thinks it makes his team better. If I was convinced that he was sincere (and I wouldn't need to agree with his rationale) I'd let it go. It won't destroy the balance of the league. It was just a bad deal. It happens.
ETA: Roster considerations could come into play as well. If Team A has say Andrew Luck as well I can see moving Newton (although the market for him should be considerably better).
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bostonfred
Footballguy
The only guy in that trade I'm confident in is aj green
I think it's close but I still say B side all day. People seem to forget that Benjamin was good last year. Plus he has the reigning MVP throwing to him. Plus you probably are taking Zeke Elliott at 1.01. Stew is just gravy.
On the flip side, you get a 1A WR with a declining offense, a young RB on a pass first offense, and an exciting talent who is currently a back up.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Surely you're not talking about Chip Kelly? Did I miss something here?Rolling the dice that Zenner will be Detroit's main guy and that Kelly can get more out of Smith.
Nevermind, I was thinking you were talking about Alex Smith, not Torrey. I forgot Torrey was even part of that nonsense trade. That's how little I think of Torrey Smith.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Cam > Smith by a few miles and I like Smith. He is a good bye week fill in or if you're in a jam he is better than people think. But Cam.
Crabtree > T Smith by a bit, at least in terms of situation. I don't really believe in SF at all these days.
Zenner is probably comparable to Vereen. Hard to say but I like ZZ upside and am about done with Vereen, but it's probably even.
All in all that makes this very lopsided in my view, but a deal is a deal in my mind, unless collusion is involved.
Brownsfan
Footballguy
Team A now has Smith, Bortles, RG3 and Tannehill.
Team B now has Newton, Fitzpatrick and Bridgewater
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I could see some one being confident enough in Bortles that he'd want to take advantage of Newton's peak* value - but that offer doesn't really do that.
* not necessarily Newton's peak value but it's very possible
No, not "certain QBs". He was hurt before Romo was and was never right again for the rest of the season. It was obvious that he wasn't 100%.
jeaton6
Footballguy
If voids are part of the rules then I'd be pushing strongly for it. This is Cam Newton AND Crabtree for free. Regardless of Smith not getting credit he deserves from a trade perspective in 1 QB leagues he has NO value. Nobody paying even a 4th round rookie for him, the same effectively for Torrey Smith. Vereen=Zenner for most though Zenner could have more upside.
I can't think of any argument that could convince me this trade was done without collusive behavior. Other than oops the 1.1 should have been in the deal too. Just way too lopsided for it to be a possibility. Even if the dupee knew nothing about fantasy and only knew football they would know enough to not to make that trade.
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Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Brownsfan
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
16 team. Cooks and the 1.02 for Gurley
1.1 and Benjamin. I am higher on Kelvin than many, and somewhat wary of Cooks' ability to produce consistent FP...I like B side a good bit.
Team A gets the best haul here...B must be in love with Zenner. Or high.
peterson all day for that price.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think Jennings is barely worth a roster spot. 31 year old RB in a three way committee that had a pretty poor 2015 and really only had one good season in his entire career.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
spider321
Footballguy
Slider
Footballguy
For the most part that's why I traded for him. I think Gordon MIGHT improve and COULD breakout but I started him zero times last season and in general gave up 3 players who are weekly WDIS decisons, and usually not in my lineup for a lineup fixture in Green and for various reasons saw value in other two guys I got back but neither were reasons for the trade.
