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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (21 Viewers)
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1.8 of course over 1.11 and I'll take a random 2020 first over Ebron. Despite being better last season I'd still take Wentz over Ryan but that difference is not enough to close the gap. Team B just positioned themselves to stay loaded for longer.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
16 man PPR tiered PPR TE premium full IDP
Team A got Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.09; Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team C
Team B got Watkins, Sammy KCC WR; Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.05
Team A got Moore, D.J. CAR WR; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.12
Team D got Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Team A got Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.07; Year 2020 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team E
Team B got Bell, Le'Veon NYJ RB
Different league, same kind of outlook for 2010 1st - playoff-ish team, not winning it.
16 man .5 PPR full IDP
Team A got Watson, Deshaun HOU QB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.13; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.09; Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.09
Team B got Speaks, Breeland KCC DE; Reed, D.J. SFO S; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.02; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.02; Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.02; Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.07
Ignore the IDP, they are throw-in level guys
Team A got Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.09; Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team C
Team B got Watkins, Sammy KCC WR; Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.05
Team A got Moore, D.J. CAR WR; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.12
Team D got Hilton, T.Y. IND WR
Team A got Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.07; Year 2020 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team E
Team B got Bell, Le'Veon NYJ RB
Different league, same kind of outlook for 2010 1st - playoff-ish team, not winning it.
16 man .5 PPR full IDP
Team A got Watson, Deshaun HOU QB; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.13; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.09; Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.09
Team B got Speaks, Breeland KCC DE; Reed, D.J. SFO S; Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.02; Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.02; Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.02; Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.07
Ignore the IDP, they are throw-in level guys
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I'm surprised at the Wentz thoughts. I see this dead even. To me Wentz is a potentially elite QB with youth on his side and I value him >>> over Ryan. Obviously Ebron is mid-value here but the way I see this is:
Wentz = 2020 1st (obviously actual position matters a ton)
Ebron > Ryan
1.08 > 1.11
Wentz = 2020 1st (obviously actual position matters a ton)
Ebron > Ryan
1.08 > 1.11
I think this is the key here. Team B has Ryan and Rivers plus Baker on taxi so Wentz was a long-term luxury. Turning him into future equity, with the possibility of a significant value spike also, seems to be the key. If this trade was Ebron and 1.11 for Ryan and 1.08 I don't think I bat an eye at that.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I don't tend to value QB that high in one QB leagues is part of my reasoning but also engaged in trade talks about 2 months ago specifically for Wentz which also shapes my opinion.
I got a team where I felt need to move on from Brady this off-season. I was sitting on picks 1, 7, 15 and 21 and decided I'd pay for a QB but really wanted to try and make it work with just giving up 21 and keeping the 3 higher picks. I knew pick 21 would not get me a few of the elite QB's, so I targeted Wentz who I viewed as best buy low QB candidate. I offered pick 21 and Brady and he countered asking for pick 15 straight up. I declined and instead traded pick 36 for Trubisky with another team. I'm not saying I might not have made a mistake giving 15 for Wentz instead of 36 for Trubisky, but fact I could have had him for pick 15, combined with how I value QB's and cheap cost I've been able to roster some really good and elite QB's in other leagues just makes it hard for me to share your valuation of him as worth a 2020#1.
I thought the way Edgar presented it earlier, 1.8 and Ryan being equal 1.11 and Wentz sounds about right to me.
None of this has anything to do with being really down on Wentz, so much as valuation of QB's in one start QB leagues-which is all I know.
Zyphros
Footballguy
I traded for Penny about a month ago actually. I gave up Corey Davis and 2.12 for Penny and 1.11. Felt like I completely stole both pieces, even more so now. And I currently have Penny ranked behind 5 rookies in my dynasty rankings. I view Miles Sanders and Penny as almost a lateral move and Sanders is going top5 in most drafts so no I wouldn't sell for anything short of that.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
1.6 for 3.4 (28th) and 2020 first. (Projected 3-7 overall)
kittenmittens
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
12 team PPR 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/3FLEX
Team A trades:
Tyreek Hill
Team B trades:
2.02
Edit to add: 2.02 was then Deebo Samuel
Team A trades:
Tyreek Hill
Team B trades:
2.02
Edit to add: 2.02 was then Deebo Samuel
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Another one this time I’m involved
I gave: 2.1, 3.3 and 2020 second (mid)
i got: 1.10 OTC and took Deebo Samuel
ffmail4me
Footballguy
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
FFPC not involved
Allison, Geronimo
for
2020 3rd Round
Allison, Geronimo
for
2020 3rd Round
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC style (disbanding after 2020 jackpot season)
I gave Boyd
I got Ingram
Needed another RB pretty bad. Was willing to pay a bit more for Ingram so I'm stoked I made this deal.
I gave Boyd
I got Ingram
Needed another RB pretty bad. Was willing to pay a bit more for Ingram so I'm stoked I made this deal.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I would keep Allison in this one. It would take a 2. He is by no means a game-changing talent, but he should have a great shot at starting opposite Adams. The situation is awesome.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
JackReacher
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
good point. Just relative to what I've seen lately. I sold in 1 league for 2.4 (maybe a panic move) and bought for a future 3rd in 1 league which I feel great about. But feeling regretful for trading OJ Howard and 1.6 for him in another league...
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Team A trades:
2.05
Team B trades:
Dede Westbrook
3.03
2.05 was then Hakeem Butler.
Team A trades:
2.05
Team B trades:
Dede Westbrook
3.03
2.05 was then Hakeem Butler.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
JuJu, Ito Smith, 20 overall, 2020 2nd
Antonio Brown, Allen Robinson, Njoku, Chris Carson, 28 overall
sorry guys owner withdrew it As I was going to accept. Does it often.
Antonio Brown, Allen Robinson, Njoku, Chris Carson, 28 overall
sorry guys owner withdrew it As I was going to accept. Does it often.
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ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
I like Jacobs but I think the value here clearly lies on the Cooper side of this dealkyter1 said:
Pwingles
Footballguy
Made this deal before the first pick. Picks went;
Harry, Jacobs, AJ Brown, Montgomery, Sanders, Parris, DK
Was hoping for one of Parris or DK
Traded 1.08 + 2.06 for 1.12, 2.01
Deebo went 1.08
I took Hollywood at 1.09 (not happy with it, shouldve just taken deebo)
Hockenson at 1.10, Hardman at 1.11
I take JJAW and Fant
Thoughts?
I would say if the guys #1 RB is Jordan Howard and #1 WR is Robby Anderson and his pick isn't the 1.01 next year, I'd hate to see the team who beats him out for it.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
16 team IDP ppr
Mixon + Cortland Sutton
for
OBJ
Mixon + Cortland Sutton
for
OBJ
hunter1
Footballguy
That's a tough one, my friend. I think I like the other side a bit, but you probably know better than I. What's your thinking here? Hunt lead dog somewhere in 2020?
Give me the 4 picks...guys team may be bad but he is adding some solid guys at 1.7 and 1.8. Maybe a RB falls to him or he takes let’s say Campbell and DK both who landed in spots where they could produce right away. Hits on a waiver wire guy or 2 and now his highly likely 1.1 turns into 1.3. The 2020 first he got back in the trade then may only be a pick or 2 difference.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Wow I don't think it's even at all. 1.07 and 1.08 this year for maybe a better 2020 pick is insane. I don't care how bad his roster is now, all it takes is one decent draft and one decent waiver add and that guy is upside down. Plus he gave a 2020 2nd. It's possible even if the pick ends up 1.01 that the 1.07 and 1.08 this year were free. That's a horrible gamble to take.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
So 1.05, 2.05, and 2.06 become:
Marquise Brown
JJA-W
Fant
Neutral, mostly because I think you panic'd on the 1.08 trade and got bad value but got bailed out by nice guys sliding. You moved back 4 spots to move up 5 and saw a tier drop in the process. Not a good move. I didn't mind the first trade on its own but I would have pressed for a better return on the 1.08 - 1.12 slide or picked (Brown) 1.08.
Was not an easy trade for me to make and I may not know better. Main reasons I made the trade:
1. Got irked by James Palmer report a few weeks ago since he seems pretty connected to Denver and he said the Denver coaching staff plan was to give Freeman more carries then Lindsay. Makes no sense but that worried me.
2. Lindsay is my RB4 on this team, if he was higher up the pecking order would have been a problem but as I felt it made sense to sacrifice 8 games from my RB4 to potential of longer term upgrade. Hunt is a year younger, bigger and IMO just has more upside. Obviously where Hunt is playing in 2020 will drive a lot of his value but yes I would be inclined to think he'll be the lead dog wherever he goes but at worst I'd see him as in a role like Lindsay is looking at, which is part of a 2 man RBBC it would appear.
3. I personally feel Hunt vs Chubb in terms of who is more talented is a legit debate. I prefer Hunt but I don't fault anyone who sees otherwise. Chubb did not starting getting much work until week 7 last year. He will of course be getting a heavier workload from week one this year and that might prove more challenging for him to play like he did from week one this year vs coming in with fairly fresh legs in week 7 last year. By the time Hunt is back with fresh legs it might Chubb who is worn down a little and I also think a solid chance as we approach the trade deadline they will be more open to dealing Duke if they have not already done so knowing Hunt is coming. My belief is, and we'll see how this goes, is that Hunt will be a bigger factor for playoff teams next year in the last few weeks of the season then Lindsay will be.
Summary if I can survive negative of losing my RB4 for 8 weeks, which is not something I take lightly, but if I can I think I'll be better off in the long term with to me a good shot to be better in playoffs this year. I could be wrong but that's the thought process behind me taking this shot.
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
12 tm 0.5 PPR with return yardage start 2-3 rb 2-3 wr 1 te 1 qb
Lindsay for OJ Howard
Lindsay for OJ Howard
