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A lot of people like Swift over Dobbins, so I hope that was the case here. Got his guy and got a 2nd to boot. I prefer the Dobbins side.
Somebody really likes McLaurin.Dez said:
I think everyone has been on both sides of this type of deal...dealing a stud for two good players...I fully understand the logic of both sides...as far as this deal goes I just don't think that is enough for Godwin...there's just too much risk with the two players coming back...McLaurin is a nice piece but he is in a situation where the QB position is a complete wildcard which could limit his upside...Carson is good but he has his questions as well...overall I think both these guys make sense being part of this deal I just don't like the combo of them...whether you prefer McLaurin or Carson the other piece needs to be better.Dez said:
Conner's in the tier of backs that are volume and team-dependent, for sure. This is definitely more in hopes that he'll get an extension for a modest amount at some point. If not, then the deal is different. I think it all depends on his health. When healthy, he's a fine/very good back. If his health falters, the Steelers will replace him. And I'm not entirely sure where he'll be, but it's better than paying a first for Fournette, IMHO, which is what his owners want.
I'm not a Conner guy, but a mid second is pretty fair. With Conner, you know you're getting at least 1 rb2 season out of him, health assumed.
Maybe not the wisest long-term investment of the second-rounder, though. I'm having buyer's remorse now, though in a vacuum, it's a fair deal. I'm also really hoping Odenigbo moves into Griffen's spot on the DL in MN, assuming they don't bring Griffen back. There's a lot of volume there for him. They profiled him at Dynasty League Football and he looks like a bear to handle for OLs right now.
I think you will be fine and if Conner returns to full duty the first few games you can probably turnaround for a profit if you choose.
That's what I was thinking. I'm not too distraught over having done the deal. I figure with a few strong games in the book, I can recoup the pick or let it ride a little and see if I can't turn it into a late-first or two seconds with a win-now team. I also need live bodies at RB in this league.
I am in your same boat and feel your pain. I often have to overpay as well, but it is part of the fun to get your guys. I think this rookie class is deep but I am not as high on the talent/upside as others. Getting a starting RB from Pitt for a 2nd is a good production grab for you and can be used to help your team or parlay into the future if desired.
Probably so. It's a 2021 second, if that helps any. The RB class is supposed to be average. I still have two first-round picks, though now am missing a second and third. It goes 1,1,4,6 for next year. I used the third in a deal for McLaurin and the fifth and this year's fifth for two fifths in this year's, with which I took Quintez Cephus and Malik Harrison, which I think is really, really good value at the 5.6 and 5.8.
Man I think Cook is underrated as a short term option. He was TE4 last year in games where Brees played with 14.5 ppg.
I would rather have the pick. Going off memory I don't think Connor has ever made it through 16 games. I don't want to count on him as my rb2
Cook is due for some major regression. He caught a career high in touchdowns and averaged over 15 yards per catch. He was tight end 4 on 43 catches and now has Sanders to take away some targets.
Cook averaged 15.8ppg over their last 7 games last season on a total of 28 targets, primarily because he caught 7 TDs. Over his first 6 games of the season he had a similar 27 targets, scored 2 TDs, and averaged 7.3ppg. The targets were pretty consistent all season, so I think people are insane relying on Jared Cook this season expecting a similarly unrealistic TD rate.
Injury is the key with him, for sure, because it's not lack of usage in the running or passing game, nor competence in the offensive line and QB when everybody is healthy. I'm betting on his and the team's health this year.
Seems pricey on paper for McLaurin but I would actually take Terry in this instance. Getting anything for Green and Edelman right now is tough and I think this draft class is a little overrated.
Stafford and 1.02 for Burrow? I hate it for you honestly.
Other QBs are Rivers, Stidham and Mahomes. Didn't want to go into the future with a bunch of aging QBs and I'm not sold on Tua. Gives me a lineup of:
But eventually you need to try to win, right?
I won in 2017/2018 and made the playoffs last year. I just don't believe in investing in RBs at the top of a draft in superflex. They come and go but I can build around Burrow for 10-15 years.
Okay, Taylor then. I'd still think the other lineup would be better. But I'm not into superflex so...
I wish I understood the fascination with Superflex leagues. The idea of making QBs so important over other positions is something I can't see. I always thought trying to balance scoring among the positions is the preferred choice by most fantasy owners. Not to mention what starting 2 QBs does with regards to position shortages. When someone like Justin Herbert is chosen over Lamb or Jeudy it stands out as a red flag to me.Okay, Taylor then. I'd still think the other lineup would be better. But I'm not into superflex so...
He was #2 QB in fantasy last year on PPG basis. But certainly getting older and had surgery, yes.
The theory is that it reflects real football a little more accurately, while the 1 QB diminishes the role, especially in redraft leagues. (I assume dynasties often carry larger rosters out of their very nature, which makes QBs a little more important).
I mean the top two players this year in superflex are Burrow and Tua. I felt like I needed another QB with Stafford's back (and age) and Rivers's age.
He was indeed awesome before he went down. Tons of volume and his aDOT and accuracy rating were both top ten in the league; I think his aDOT was second or something like that.
Well, fantasy football shouldn't mimic real football in that sense IMO. If you want to increase the value of QBs, give 6 pts per passing TD instead of 4 and give bonuses on yardage or some other statistic.
In my two Superflex leagues it went CEH, Burrow, Taylor, Tua and Burrow, CEH, Taylor, Tua. It's all good I really like Burrow a lot and feel he is a great building block. I'd take the other side because I think you can win the ship right now with that 2nd RB. But I also feel like streaming a 2nd RB is not such a bad choice, either.
My excuse is that I feel I *might* have an even bigger edge on my competition in SF than in regular leagues. Especially FFPC.
That's interesting. In the rookie poll on here, Burrow was the huge favorite for the 1.01.
Sure thing. I prefer that fantasy reflect reality more, but it's not for everybody. And quarterbacks do often wind up being disproportionately important in terms of sheer number of them needed to cover the optimal 2 QB starting lineup with bye weeks and such.
Just completed an FFPC superflex startup a couple days ago as well and both CEH (2.05) and Taylor (2.04) went before Burrow (3.11) and Tua (5.06). All of that being said I would still assume Burrow to be the 1.01 on average across all superflex leagues.
