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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (26 Viewers)
- Thread starter Gottabesweet
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If one is taking a moral stance on Hill, I’m fine with that owner trading them for whatever they can get.
But from a purely fantasy football perspective, I don’t at all understand some of the crap people are trading Hill for. Even if Hill only has a 5% chance of ever playing again (I think it’s much higher than that), he’s still worth about three Jordan Howards. If you’re going to purge Hill from your roster, at least get something with some upside like a young prospect, 2nd round rookie pick, etc. Not Jordan Howard. Makes zero sense.
swabs
Footballguy
I can't believe people are giving up a 1st for Sammy freakin Watkins12 team PPR IDP
Traded Sammy Watkins for 2020 1st. I now have 4 2020 1sts and 2 2020 2nds. And I still have Fuller, Godwin, Kirk, Lockett, Pettis, and Mike Williams at WR. Also have the 1.2 in 2019 draft, which will either be Harry or Jacobs. A lot of young talent on this team which may not make the playoffs but will be competitive. And well set for 2020!
jtd13
Footballguy
Adams side easily for me.
Adams= AB + 1.07
1.01> Sony
Boyd > Williams
2.6 > 3.1
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Agree. Something I read awhile back and I’ve not been able to find it said something along the lines of his hip is bone on bone soon and his foot creates a lot of those problem. He’s in a great situation and will have a few big games but others he’ll be non existent.
He's 25 years old and poised to be the WR1 in the league's most exciting offense*
*for the six games he plays
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Deep 12 team PPR (60+ spots)
Josh Doctson, Trent Sherfield, CJ Prosise, 2020 2nd (LATE 20-24th) and 2020 6th
For
Dante Pettis, Kendrick Bourne, 2020 2nd (EARLY) 13-15th overall.
Josh Doctson, Trent Sherfield, CJ Prosise, 2020 2nd (LATE 20-24th) and 2020 6th
For
Dante Pettis, Kendrick Bourne, 2020 2nd (EARLY) 13-15th overall.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Vanderbilt rookie from last year, saw his name on these forums. Came on late last year with the Cards in December had 19-201-1. Trade was basically Doctson and a 2 for Pettis and a 2.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Why on earth would the team giving up Pettis do this? They drop 10 spots in the draft to downgrade from doctson to Pettis.
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As far as I can see, everything on the top line should be equal in value to ONLY the 2020 2nd. Pettis alone is easily worth everything on the top line and at least another 2020 2nd.
coachoneill
Footballguy
Went down in my league today, not involved. 10 teamPPR superflex
Team A sends: OJ Howard, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Team B sends: Courtland Sutton, 2020 3rd (likely late)
Team A sends: OJ Howard, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Team B sends: Courtland Sutton, 2020 3rd (likely late)
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Id take the Howard side, easily even if the 2nd was not included.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I was looking at trading for a TE in the OJ Howard/Ebron range and I have Sutton. I don't think this deal gets it done in my league for me.
I take OJ side by a lot. I think with picks reversed it would still get denied.
coachoneill
Footballguy
That was my initial thought too. Both teams are likely contenders so its likely a true round leap for the guy getting Sutton. He also has Kittle but think maybe he could've gotten more. Both owners are guys I consider sharp fantasy players so I was a little surprised I felt so strongly. Most trades in the league are 50/50ish propositions.
Marauder
Footballguy
Pettis alone is worth more than the whole other side so I'll take Pettis and the free early 2020 second easily.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You won't be saying that when Trent Sherfield is untouchable half way into the season.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I was quite happy to get this deal. I drafted Doctson 1.3 years back and he’s already 27. Richardson should be cut after this year. What a mess of a salary. Best offer prior to this deal was a 2020 4th. Skins need WRs bad!
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
"Well....I guess I can do Doctson for Pettis but you'll have to give me a little sweetner, perhaps you can bump up my second round pick next year. And just to show I'm not a total cut-throat I'll throw in not only CJ Prosise but Trent Sherfield as well....although I know I'll regret it as soon as it becomes official."
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
LOL! I offered it hoping to get an counter. A follow up text the next day, Thoughts on that trade. Was waiting on a counter
Another huge one.
Malcom Brown for DeAndre Carter
joey
Footballguy
Gottabesweet said:
tangent...I'm holding on M Brown in the one league where I own him.
I don't want to have the same regret I had last year when I sold Connor "cheap" when we all thought Bell would sign at the end of the pre-season and be a stud RB as always in the Pitt system. The league where I own Brown is only Keep 13, so I likely won't be able to keep him, but I'm certainly not going to trade him now on the cheap and wait til we see what the real pre-season practices/games/reports have to say about Gurley.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Got Conner as an early throw in last year. Love adding RB2/3s on the cheap and see what happens in camp. Good point.
Tau837
Footballguy
It occurred to me today to update this (at risk of getting called out by @Catbird).
As I mentioned above, a new owner took over Team A prior to all of the trades above. He was given a 50% discount for 2018 and 2019 due to taking over a bad team, and he paid both discounted prices since he traded away 2019 picks.
It actually got much worse than I posted above. He made 26 trades between April 2018 and August 2018, most of them similarly bad to those above. He traded away Brees, Juju, McCaffrey, Chubb, Mixon, and Kupp, among others. Unsurprisingly, he finished last in the league and quit and now we have another new owner with a two season discount and extra draft picks in this year's rookie draft between rounds.
Back to the regularly scheduled trade talk...
dipandglide
Footballguy
Hill all day regardless of his irl BSBen & Jerry's said:
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Not involved 12 team PPR. Big one.
Gurley, Mike Evans, Jordan Howard, 28 and 32nd overall rookie picks (thirds)
for
Hopkins, Sony Michel, 1.7
Gurley, Mike Evans, Jordan Howard, 28 and 32nd overall rookie picks (thirds)
for
Hopkins, Sony Michel, 1.7
Personal preference.
Hopkins > Evans, but not by much (and maybe not at all after this season)
Michel/1.7 is a good return for Gurley right now if you believe in Michel's knee. I don't.
kutta
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
I'm much more concerned that the Patriots just drafted a third RB than that the Rams drafted a second.
Michel plus 1.7 from a bad class doesn't even start the conversation for me.
By leaps and bounds. Even in a time share Gurley can be a solid RB1. I don’t think Michel gets there this season or going forward.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Seems aggresive for those players, but both seem to have broken out and could have great futures if they can build on it.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
12 tm IDP 0.5 PPR start 2-3 rb 3-4 wr
Ridley yeldon
For
Freeman Ito 5.10
Ridley yeldon
For
Freeman Ito 5.10
I like that deal for the team getting Mack/Kittle. Kittle is so much younger than Kelce/Ertz, and could still be on the upswing. He's worth the 1.1 and 1.9 by himself to me. I'm not a hge Mack fan, but he's in a pretty good situation now, if he can stay healthy, so as long as that 2020 1st isn't likely to be super high, unlikely with these 2 additions, I like it.
I think the Ridley side wins by a wide margin. Good chance the 2020 Falcons RB isn't currently on the team, where as Ridley looked very promising as a rookie, and will likely only get better.
That's a lot to give up for those two. I am not a Kittle fan this year but even assuming he is TE#1 that is a lot of value to give. But, I can see how those guys could help a team. Mack is such an unknown though this could work out if he stays healthy and catches a few more passes. If this is TE bonus it makes a little more sense.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Most people in the conversation agree with what Ratbone just posted. I was the outlier, thinking the deal was pretty fair. In my opinion you cannot get Kittle for less than two first. Personally, I prefer the known commodities.
Zyphros
Footballguy
Names would be nice
Calvin Ridley, Riley Ridley, hell Steven Ridley
Royce Freeman, Devonta Freeman, hell Josh Freeman
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
14 team PPR devy league TE Premium. Fairly shallow lineups (QB, 1-3 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-3 TE--7 total)
Made a series of deals to retool coming off back-to-back championships...had Gronk and Baldwin retire on me and in general had just been patching holes by trading future picks for years. Was time for some big changes. I don't do tear-down rebuilds, so I wasn't trying to rip it down to the studs and tank or anything, just remake my roster, but younger.
Deal 1--
Gave: 2021 draft
Got: Eno Benjamin*
Deal 2--
Gave: Julio Jones, Robert Woods, Jared Cook
Got: Jerry Jeudy*, Calvin Ridley
Deal 3--
Gave: Damien Williams
Got: Darrell Henderson, David Njoku
Deal 4--
Gave: Jerry Jeudy*, Darrell Henderson, Eno Benjamin*
Got: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Marvin Jones, Tom Brady
So, in the end even though imo I didn't "win" every deal, I essentially ended up paying Damien Williams and my entire 2021 draft to upgrade from:
Julio/Woods/J. Cook to JuJu/C. Ridley/Njoku
Which to me is a huge win given my goal to retool and get younger.
Made a series of deals to retool coming off back-to-back championships...had Gronk and Baldwin retire on me and in general had just been patching holes by trading future picks for years. Was time for some big changes. I don't do tear-down rebuilds, so I wasn't trying to rip it down to the studs and tank or anything, just remake my roster, but younger.
Deal 1--
Gave: 2021 draft
Got: Eno Benjamin*
Deal 2--
Gave: Julio Jones, Robert Woods, Jared Cook
Got: Jerry Jeudy*, Calvin Ridley
Deal 3--
Gave: Damien Williams
Got: Darrell Henderson, David Njoku
Deal 4--
Gave: Jerry Jeudy*, Darrell Henderson, Eno Benjamin*
Got: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Marvin Jones, Tom Brady
So, in the end even though imo I didn't "win" every deal, I essentially ended up paying Damien Williams and my entire 2021 draft to upgrade from:
Julio/Woods/J. Cook to JuJu/C. Ridley/Njoku
Which to me is a huge win given my goal to retool and get younger.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yeah that deal is a train wreck.
Adams>AB
1.1>Michel
Boyd>Damien
2.6>3.1
And the 1.7 isn't nearly enough to buy all those upgrades.
Ouch.
Adams>AB
1.1>Michel
Boyd>Damien
2.6>3.1
And the 1.7 isn't nearly enough to buy all those upgrades.
Ouch.
foxco
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
