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10 minutes ago, jm192 said:

I got Antonio Brown for Tyler Boyd today.   Brown owner sent the offer last night after the civil suit story broke.

You got robbed. 

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12 Team Dynasty PPR 1/2/2/1 2 Flex   ... not involved 

Team A:  Gave up Austin Ekler LAC RB & Deebo Samuel SF WR (eligible for Taxi Squad Rookie)

Team B: Gave up Aaron Jones GBP RB

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14-team .5 ppr 1QB 1RB 2WR 1 TE 1FLEX

Team A Gave: 2020 2nd, 2021 2nd (both likely late, led league in points last year)

Team B Gave: Edelman, 2020 4th (likely early or mid)

I'm Team A. Feel that's a steep price for Edelman in only .5ppr, but with Tyreek and other WR injuries I was staring down the barrel of Trey Quinn at WR2 .... needed a bridge to Hill's (hopeful) return. Curious if others feel was significant overpay or not. 🤷‍♂️

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12 hours ago, ChuckLiddell said:

Just completed a nice one in a 12 team non ppr 1 QB league...

I got Courtland Sutton, 2020 1st (very late), and Breida

I gave R.Wilson, 2020 3rd, 2021 3rd

IMO, thats about as big a haul as you can ever expect for a QB not named Mahomes.  I am delighted.  Have Lamar and Dak, so Wilson felt very expendable.

Wow, not sure how that can happen but well done I guess? RW must still have a ton of name value. I'd easily take Sutton over him straight up so not sure why the first (or Breida) is needed to make this work.

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Seeing as we're discussing QB value:

16 team IDP

Builder (has Mahomes) gave Jackson, Lamar BAL QB; Freeman, Devonta ATL RB; Ford, Dee SFO DE

Team looking to make the playoffs gave up Hill, Taysom NOS QB; Cohen, Tarik CHI RB; Harris, Charles MIA DE;  2020 1st and 2nd

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14 Team - Standard Scoring - No PPR

Team A gave: Julio Jones

Team B gave: AJ Green, Kittle

 

Team A has K Rudolf at TE, weekens WR position but has already missing MGordon so is more looking to future with the addition of Kittle

Team B has Kelce at TE and Julio goes to 2nd WR with Hopkins

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On 9/9/2019 at 10:02 PM, RushHour said:

Not to get to far off topic (more appropriate for the Hill thread) but I still see this kind of sentiment a lot and I'm wondering why this is still the prevailing view of him?

There was some pretty compelling information that came out during the off-season saga that not only was he not involved in any injury to his son, but he didn't beat up his pregnant GF either back in college (despite taking a plea deal). If that's believed (and I understand that plenty of people may be sceptical), then what is the reason for still thinking he's an awful human or is an off-field risk from a dynasty perspective? Is it the tape saying to his GF that she should be afraid of him or do people just not believe he's innocent of wrongdoing? Just curious because the narrative on him doesn't seem to have altered at all, despite the outcome of the investigation and no suspension. 

Aren’t the answers to your questions pretty obvious in the context of some one saying he’s a bad human being? 

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10 team 1-2QB's 3-5RB's 5-7WR's 2-4TE's plus full IDP rosters are 50 deep, not involved

Team A got: Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin, 2020 3rd

Team B got: Derrick Henry

Team A is in rebuild mode

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Zealots PPR IDP

Gave:

Brown, Antonio NEP WR and 

Crowder, Jamison NYJ WR and 

Valdes-Scantling, Marquez GBP WR and

Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick

 

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR and

Year 2020 Round 2 Draft Pick

 

I'm off the crazy train! :towelwave:

 

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9 hours ago, Zyphros said:

10 team 1-2QB's 3-5RB's 5-7WR's 2-4TE's plus full IDP rosters are 50 deep, not involved

Team A got: Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin, 2020 3rd

Team B got: Derrick Henry

Team A is in rebuild mode

Like the Henry side there, even though I don't think Henry is perfect in his own right.

If I had to guess, McLaurin will prove to be a long-term mediocrity. I wasn't high on Campbell coming out of Ohio State, though it's too early to write him off.

I see that as basically Henry for two "meh" prospects and a 3rd. Seems good for the side getting Henry.

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12 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Gave:

Brown, Antonio NEP WR and 

Crowder, Jamison NYJ WR and 

Valdes-Scantling, Marquez GBP WR and

Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick

 

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR and

Year 2020 Round 2 Draft Pick

 

I'm off the crazy train! :towelwave:

 

This is an absurd overpay that is probably exactly the right move though so I would hate liking it for your side 

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2 minutes ago, EBF said:

Like the Henry side there, even though I don't think Henry is perfect in his own right.

If I had to guess, McLaurin will prove to be a long-term mediocrity. I wasn't high on Campbell coming out of Ohio State, though it's too early to write him off.

I see that as basically Henry for two "meh" prospects and a 3rd. Seems good for the side getting Henry.

The fact it's start 5 to 7 receivers massively increases the value of those two meh prospects.  I still probably like the Henry side but it's hard to load up on young receivers when the rosters are 50 deep and over 50 receivers are going to start every week. 

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4 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

This is an absurd overpay that is probably exactly the right move though so I would hate liking it for your side 

:lmao:

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11 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Aren’t the answers to your questions pretty obvious in the context of some one saying he’s a bad human being? 

I guess not seeing as I asked the question. Never mind though. Not the right thread.

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40 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Gave:

Brown, Antonio NEP WR and 

Crowder, Jamison NYJ WR and 

Valdes-Scantling, Marquez GBP WR and

Year 2020 Round 3 Draft Pick

 

Got:

Green, A.J. CIN WR and

Year 2020 Round 2 Draft Pick

 

I'm off the crazy train! :towelwave:

 

Lets take brown out of the equation...

You gave MVS (the no2 wr for Rodgers) and crowder (worth rostering for next season) for a guy who is at the end of the line and can't stay on the field for a bad team, plus a round upgrade in picks.

 

/Then/ you added a top wr in one of the leagues best offenses who'll be allowed to play for at least the next game and, if the NFL takes as long as it usually does, may play out the season before any ruling is given.

 

You not only got robbed, but you proceeded to give the theif a handy while they went through your wallet.

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23 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

Aj Green (out, ankle) > Antonio Brown (questionable, sexual assault, maybe) 

Do you watch football?

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12 minutes ago, wgoldsph said:

Lets take brown out of the equation...

You gave MVS (the no2 wr for Rodgers) and crowder (worth rostering for next season) for a guy who is at the end of the line and can't stay on the field for a bad team, plus a round upgrade in picks.

/Then/ you added a top wr in one of the leagues best offenses who'll be allowed to play for at least the next game and, if the NFL takes as long as it usually does, may play out the season before any ruling is given.

You not only got robbed, but you proceeded to give the theif a handy while they went through your wallet.

I'm taking the AJ Green side on this, and fairly happily. I see your point, but disagree in dynasty at least. 

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9 minutes ago, wgoldsph said:

Do you watch football?

Actually, no.  My account is two decades old and I've got tens of thousands of posts and more liked posts per month than you've got posts at a site called footballguys,  but I've never acquired a taste for watching the sport.  It's a huge relief to finally admit it.  Thank you for your clever question, devastating as it may have been.  

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34 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

Actually, no.  My account is two decades old and I've got tens of thousands of posts and more liked posts per month than you've got posts at a site called footballguys,  but I've never acquired a taste for watching the sport.  It's a huge relief to finally admit it.  Thank you for your clever question, devastating as it may have been.  

Honestly that's how I feel about baseball.  Been playing fantasy for years but I hate the sport. Don't tell anyone please.  It would completely ruin my fantasy forum cred.

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On 9/11/2019 at 5:43 PM, tombonneau said:

14-team .5 ppr 1QB 1RB 2WR 1 TE 1FLEX

Team A Gave: 2020 2nd, 2021 2nd (both likely late, led league in points last year)

Team B Gave: Edelman, 2020 4th (likely early or mid)

I'm Team A. Feel that's a steep price for Edelman in only .5ppr, but with Tyreek and other WR injuries I was staring down the barrel of Trey Quinn at WR2 .... needed a bridge to Hill's (hopeful) return. Curious if others feel was significant overpay or not. 🤷‍♂️

Before the season I gave a 2019 mid second for Edelman. So yes, I think it’s an overpay, but not a bad one to make to fill that WR spot.

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On 9/11/2019 at 8:43 PM, tombonneau said:

14-team .5 ppr 1QB 1RB 2WR 1 TE 1FLEX

Team A Gave: 2020 2nd, 2021 2nd (both likely late, led league in points last year)

Team B Gave: Edelman, 2020 4th (likely early or mid)

I'm Team A. Feel that's a steep price for Edelman in only .5ppr, but with Tyreek and other WR injuries I was staring down the barrel of Trey Quinn at WR2 .... needed a bridge to Hill's (hopeful) return. Curious if others feel was significant overpay or not. 🤷‍♂️

It’s hard not to overpay as a contending team with a hole after week 1. 2nd round picks are nice to have but even early ones are tough to hit on if you consider yourself a good drafter. At .5 ppr Edelman will provide a decent floor compared to your options. What’s the point of having draft picks anyway if you never win? That window can slam shut quickly. One year you have Andrew luck, Antonio brown, d  freeman, gronk, jay ajayi, and lesean mccoy with some highly touted prospects in devante Parker snd breshaud Perriman, coming off a solid season and 2 years later you’re standing there with your **** in your hand. 

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2 hours ago, Snorkelson said:

It’s hard not to overpay as a contending team with a hole after week 1. 2nd round picks are nice to have but even early ones are tough to hit on if you consider yourself a good drafter. At .5 ppr Edelman will provide a decent floor compared to your options. What’s the point of having draft picks anyway if you never win? That window can slam shut quickly. One year you have Andrew luck, Antonio brown, d  freeman, gronk, jay ajayi, and lesean mccoy with some highly touted prospects in devante Parker snd breshaud Perriman, coming off a solid season and 2 years later you’re standing there with your **** in your hand. 

Thanks that was somewhat my internal analysis especially in regards to value of a late second in 14 team. I look at some of the guys taken there and they are not far from fourth round lotto picks. 

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14 team QRWWTFKD non-ppr 6 pts all tds

Team a gets 

Melvin Gordon, Marquis Lee

Team b gets

Team a's 2020 1st, Edelman, mostert (team b owns breida but doesn't start him) 

Team a won the league last year with this group but is 0-1 with the fewest points after week 1

Mahomes

Aaron Jones,  drake/ballage 

Diggs, larry fitz, Emmanuel Sanders 

Rudolph

Colts/dolphins d

Would love to hear feedback on this one

 

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7 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

14 team QRWWTFKD non-ppr 6 pts all tds

Team a gets 

Melvin Gordon, Marquis Lee

Team b gets

Team a's 2020 1st, Edelman, mostert (team b owns breida but doesn't start him) 

Team a won the league last year with this group but is 0-1 with the fewest points after week 1

Mahomes

Aaron Jones,  drake/ballage 

Diggs, larry fitz, Emmanuel Sanders 

Rudolph

Colts/dolphins d

Would love to hear feedback on this one

 

I think it depends on where the 1st falls. I think gordon will be worth more than this come week 8 if he reports, and has a couple good years left although he does have some wear and tear. 2020 1st/Edelman is probably about right at this time, but if this team goes downhill, which it very well could, that pick could start creeping up. I have a hard time believing Gordon after this year going forward would be worth a top 5 rookie pick. 

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4 minutes ago, Snorkelson said:

12/ppr/2rb3wrflex

Gave breida/crowder (pre monodarnold)

got jjaw/waller 

 

I like all 4 guys involved in this deal but I'll take the jjaw side if I don't need immediate production.  

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35 minutes ago, Snorkelson said:

12/ppr/2rb3wrflex

Gave breida/crowder (pre monodarnold)

got jjaw/waller 

 

Jj Waller for me pretty easy

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1 hour ago, Dr. Octopus said:

You’re missing the context of his post.

I got it.  I just don't agree with it. I also thought his reply was excellent.

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Dolphins-esque rebuilder got a projected 2020 mid 1st and Noah Fant for Julio.

Was offered Courtland Sutton and a projected late first (by me) and chose this offer instead.  I was kind of surprised.  He felt that the likely better first outweighed the value difference between Sutton and Fant.  

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14 team devy PPR

Gave: Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry

Got: Nuk Hopkins, Randall Cobb

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6 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

14 team devy PPR

Gave: Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry

Got: Nuk Hopkins, Randall Cobb

I like your side. 

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7 hours ago, ChuckLiddell said:

Dolphins-esque rebuilder got a projected 2020 mid 1st and Noah Fant for Julio.

Was offered Courtland Sutton and a projected late first (by me) and chose this offer instead.  I was kind of surprised.  He felt that the likely better first outweighed the value difference between Sutton and Fant.  

Sutton >> Fant

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12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

 

Antonio Brown, Jake Kumerow and Darren Waller

for

Tyler Lockette, Corey Davis and Dallas Goedert

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14 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL

 

Antonio Brown, Jake Kumerow and Darren Waller

for

Tyler Lockette, Corey Davis and Dallas Goedert

I'll take locket, davis, goedert. 

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8 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

14 team devy PPR

Gave: Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry

Got: Nuk Hopkins, Randall Cobb

Even for me.  Every time I watch Hopkins I struggle with how long he can hold up, he plays tough but looks scrawny

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12 team, .5 PPR, start QRRWWWTFlex

 

I gave: 2020 1st, 2021 2nd

I received: Sammy Watkins, Malcolm Brown

 

 

I won the league last year and my 1st projects late again this year.  I own Gurley so Brown was pretty valuable to me.  I also own Mahomes and Hardman. Other owner did a good job of selling high after week 1 but I feel like the upside with Watkins is worth it at that price as my team is loaded at RB but a bit underwhelming at WR.  

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1 hour ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

FPC, not involved

 

Johnson, Kerryon
Valdes-Scantling, Marquez 

for

Hilton, T.Y.
Ekeler, Austin
Jones, Ronald

I'll take kerryon and mvs

51 minutes ago, Raback said:

12 team, .5 PPR, start QRRWWWTFlex

 

I gave: 2020 1st, 2021 2nd

I received: Sammy Watkins, Malcolm Brown

 

 

I won the league last year and my 1st projects late again this year.  I own Gurley so Brown was pretty valuable to me.  I also own Mahomes and Hardman. Other owner did a good job of selling high after week 1 but I feel like the upside with Watkins is worth it at that price as my team is loaded at WR but a bit underwhelming at WR.  

I'd take the picks here easily. Even a late first. 

Watkins hasnt played 16 games since his rookie season, and always seems to start out this way until his foot falls apart. Sure, if he lives up to his potential this is a steal... but odds are not good for that. 

I also dont understand being overloaded at wr but also underwhelming. so you are over loaded with underwhelming wrs? 

 

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1 hour ago, djmich said:

Even for me.  Every time I watch Hopkins I struggle with how long he can hold up, he plays tough but looks scrawny

Maybe. It does always seem like he's banged up (not that it stops him). Meanwhile, Hill ironically is actually out at least 6-8 weeks. Getting out from under that and the off field risk was worth Landry to me, while still staying elite. 

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15 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said:

I'll take kerryon and mvs

I'd take the picks here easily. Even a late first. 

Watkins hasnt played 16 games since his rookie season, and always seems to start out this way until his foot falls apart. Sure, if he lives up to his potential this is a steal... but odds are not good for that. 

I also dont understand being overloaded at wr but also underwhelming. so you are over loaded with underwhelming wrs? 

 

Sorry, meant to say loaded at RB.  

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10 hours ago, Raback said:

12 team, .5 PPR, start QRRWWWTFlex

 

I gave: 2020 1st, 2021 2nd

I received: Sammy Watkins, Malcolm Brown

 

 

I won the league last year and my 1st projects late again this year.  I own Gurley so Brown was pretty valuable to me.  I also own Mahomes and Hardman. Other owner did a good job of selling high after week 1 but I feel like the upside with Watkins is worth it at that price as my team is loaded at RB but a bit underwhelming at WR.  

I’ve never owned Watkins and had kind of written him off, but I think with Hill out Watkins will continue to see heavy targets. We’ll see how it goes moving forward, but I don’t think a 1st to get your handcuff and Watkins is an overpay. Again, I’ll mention that winning is the goal, not getting picks. You have a solid team that should compete. You got a necessary handcuff. And you got Mahomes wr1 for the next 7 weeks. 

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44 minutes ago, Snorkelson said:

I’ve never owned Watkins and had kind of written him off, but I think with Hill out Watkins will continue to see heavy targets. We’ll see how it goes moving forward, but I don’t think a 1st to get your handcuff and Watkins is an overpay. Again, I’ll mention that winning is the goal, not getting picks. You have a solid team that should compete. You got a necessary handcuff. And you got Mahomes wr1 for the next 7 weeks. 

And fools gold.  He got a nice bag of fools gold.  Pretty surprised that the “this is the year Watkins pans out” theme still has any subscribers.

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5 hours ago, SayWhat? said:

And fools gold.  He got a nice bag of fools gold.  Pretty surprised that the “this is the year Watkins pans out” theme still has any subscribers.

I didn’t say that. I’m saying if you’re in a position to win, getting 1/2 a season of the reigning mvps wr1 and a handcuff to gurley makes sense. He’s the #2 wr for a qb who went for 5000/50 in his first year as a starter. On pace last year for about 70/900 before getting injured, went 10/176 in 2 playoff games. Now appears to gain a large amount of targets while hill is out. 

What wrs can you give a 1st for right now as a win now team? Forget the fact that only one owner has your handcuff. 

If I have brown and the gurley owner comes knocking after this week, am I happy to ship brown off for a late 2nd in 2021? Heck no. If I’m a gurley owner am I willing to overpay a bit for brown after last week? Yes. 

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