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Same league as above post.... not involved...

Team A Gave up: N'Keal Harry NEP WR

Team B Gave up: Christian Kirk ARZ WR

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47 minutes ago, Birdie048 said:

Same league as above post.... not involved...

Team A Gave up: N'Keal Harry NEP WR

Team B Gave up: Christian Kirk ARZ WR

Gimme the Kirk side 

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Two trades were made in two of my dynasty leagues:

 

12 team, ppr, superflex:

Zeke Elliott for 1.04, 1.09, 1.11, 2.04

 

and

 

12 team, ppr:

Saquon for 1.02, 1.10, 1.12, and Stefon Diggs

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27 minutes ago, Maven25 said:

Two trades were made in two of my dynasty leagues:

 

12 team, ppr, superflex:

Zeke Elliott for 1.04, 1.09, 1.11, 2.04

 

and

 

12 team, ppr:

Saquon for 1.02, 1.10, 1.12, and Stefon Diggs

Honestly seems pretty cheap for both running backs...

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This one just went down in my league (not involved).  10 team superflex PPR

Team A sends: Justice Hill and 2.3

Team B sends Mark Andrews

Team receiving Hill is also the Ingram owner for what that's worth.  

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FFPC

Gave: Tevin Coleman, Jared Goff

Got: Rashad Penny

 

Goff was going to be a cut and I don't think Tevin is deserving of making a 14 man off-season roster but he was my current 14th and last keeper and I needed to make an upgrade and view RB as my teams biggest need.

My expectation with Penny is that he misses all or most of next season. Anything else would be a bonus.

 When I do cuts my RB's look like they will be  Penny along with Kamara/Latavius, Dalvin/Mattison and Bell. So basically 2 starters who I got handcuffed and  Bell as my #3RB.  My idea here is that I stash Penny on IR most or all of next year, and hopefully in 2021 he enters my RB mix which with hope he replaces Bell as my RB3. Cost of this was basically free or whatever I could get for Goff/Tevin so pretty happy with this fairly minor trade even if I think first chance I see benefit is likely 2021.

 

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2 hours ago, coachoneill said:

This one just went down in my league (not involved).  10 team superflex PPR

Team A sends: Justice Hill and 2.3

Team B sends Mark Andrews

Team receiving Hill is also the Ingram owner for what that's worth.  

Andrews by a million.

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6 hours ago, JoeJoe88 said:

Honestly seems pretty cheap for both running backs...

Superflex  makes picks a bit more valuable, so I dont think it's that bad as high 1st rounder will bet a great QB prospect. 

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12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

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1 hour ago, Birdie048 said:

12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

Unicorn by several Njokus.

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On 1/28/2020 at 9:23 AM, coachoneill said:

This one just went down in my league (not involved).  10 team superflex PPR

Team A sends: Justice Hill and 2.3

Team B sends Mark Andrews

Team receiving Hill is also the Ingram owner for what that's worth.  

Ouch.  Andrews by a lot.  By the time Ingram is done BALT will probably have a much better option than Hill to take over the role.

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1 hour ago, coachoneill said:

Another one just went down in my 10 team PPR superflex

 

Team A sends: Devonta Freeman

Team B sends: Darius Slayton

Slayton

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1 hour ago, Birdie048 said:

12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

 

55 minutes ago, fredsavage said:

Unicorn by several Njokus.

 

7 minutes ago, RushHour said:

Seconded. 

Thanks for the feedback... I was surprised by the offer... I was afraid I was missing something...  He has Kittle so I was not sure his goal.  

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3 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

 

 

Thanks for the feedback... I was surprised by the offer... I was afraid I was missing something...  He has Kittle so I was not sure his goal.  

I would have preferred to give up Waller, but you did come out on top

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7 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

 

 

Thanks for the feedback... I was surprised by the offer... I was afraid I was missing something...  He has Kittle so I was not sure his goal.  

I agree with the majority here so far on this deal but my guess is he is banking on new coaches to give Njoku the chance he didn’t get with Kitchens, at least this past season.

I've been trying to buy Njoku cheap myself as I think he go doghoused and am hopeful his talent didn’t just up and leave.

This was not a buy low however.

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12 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

12 Team PPR 1/2/2/1/ 2 Flex

Gave:  Clev TE D Njoku                                                                 

Got: Mia WR Preston Williams & JAX WR Dede Westbrook 

I still have TE's LAR Tyler Higbee, NOS Jared Cook, OAK/LV Darren Waller, WAS Jeremy Sprinkle & NYG Kaden Smith). 

Williams. I don't understand the love for Njoku, he drops too many balls and too many mouths to feed in Cleveland.

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7 hours ago, battlestar said:

I agree with the majority here so far on this deal but my guess is he is banking on new coaches to give Njoku the chance he didn’t get with Kitchens, at least this past season.

I've been trying to buy Njoku cheap myself as I think he go doghoused and am hopeful his talent didn’t just up and leave.

This was not a buy low however.

Well, some illumination on the other owner's plans....  He traded SF TE George Kittle  for ARZ Christian Kirk & 1.11 pick

 

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10 hours ago, Dr. Dan said:

I would have preferred to give up Waller, but you did come out on top

I had been offering Waller as Trade Bait.. but no takers...  The only targets were Higbee & Njoku

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7 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

Well, some illumination on the other owner's plans....  He traded SF TE George Kittle  for ARZ Christian Kirk & 1.11 pick

 

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1 hour ago, fredsavage said:

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Whatever that is, I second it. Kittle all day.  At least in my world. 

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18 hours ago, Birdie048 said:

I had been offering Waller as Trade Bait.. but no takers...  The only targets were Higbee & Njoku

As an owner of both Waller and njoku I’d prefer to keep Waller but it’s definitely closer than the low end of where I have seen njoku valued

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10 team big play IDP dynasty

DE  Clelin Ferrell

for

WR John Ross

 

TE Chris Herndon

for 

LB Bud Dupree + 2020 5th round pick

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7 hours ago, Ben & Jerry's said:

10 team big play IDP dynasty

TE Chris Herndon

for 

LB Bud Dupree + 2020 5th round pick

Herndon is an interesting piece.  He is very hard to place a value on because Griffin did well in his place and the Jets are a mess. 

 

Dupree seemed to put it together for this last year and should still get favorable matchups with Watt on the other side.  I probably like the Dupree side in big play scoring.

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FFPC

Gave: Julio, Bell, 2.4

Got: 1.3, 1.4

I took Julio and Bell in the 2013 startup. Getting 7 years out of these two and being able to flip them for two premium picks is about as good as it gets to me. My team had a 5 year run of finishing first or second end this year but was still the highest scoring team in the league but the two I gave up and AB(who I also took in that 2013 startup) were either all on downward descent or it was coming so to be able to try and start over on another run is very exciting to me.  I already had picks 6 and 8, so now  have 4 of top 8 picks to go with along with main young core pieces of Mahomes, Dalvin, Kamara, Evans, JuJu, Deebo, Kittle and Engram.

 

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On 1/16/2020 at 10:47 AM, Aunt Jemima said:

FFPC

Gave - Noah Fant

Got - 1.05 and John Ross

That's an impressive value for FANT.  IT should encourage dialogue with owners!   I'm always asking owners what their plans of for their roster.  What they think about so & so's roster.  Who they like int he draft.  Immediate needs to address for next season.  Which owners have a surplus of a position and who they may want to target at different price points.  Who they should keep.  Just Get your FEELERS out there.  Identify who the league undervalues and will over value.  If you picked up Chark or Preston Williams and sold them for 2nd rounders in 2020 before they got hurt, they might be worth more but you got value from nothing and cashed in and draft picks don't take up roster spots. Maybe up bundle with for higher value.

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12 team FFPC superflex

I gave Mark Andrews, 2021 2nd

I got Doyle, 2.03, 2021 1st

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16 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

12 team FFPC

I gave Mark Andrews, 2021 2nd

I got Doyle, 2.03, 2021 1st

If that is an early projected 1st in 2021 it's a good deal.  If not, then I'd rather have Andrews. 

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29 minutes ago, barackdhouse said:

12 team FFPC

I gave Mark Andrews, 2021 2nd

I got Doyle, 2.03, 2021 1st

out of curiosity why sell Andrews? 

As Johnny said, it depends on the projected first... Andrews is worth about 1.8 in 2020, so if it's a non playoff team I'd say you probably made out well. 

It also depends on your depth at TE. This seems like you're trading from a position of strength 

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FFPC

Gave

Henry, Derrick
Njoku, David
Brown, Marquise
2020 Pick 7.03

Got

Hopkins


Took a little beating on this one but wanted wr upgrade (Hopkins/Evans/Golladay) and hopefully get by with (Sanders/Mixon/Guice). Short roster big factor as well.
 

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FFPC

Gave
2021 1st Round 
2020 5.04 

Got
2020 1.12
2020 5.12 
2021 3rd

My team is pretty good (1pt out of playoffs), young (wilson,henry,chubb,amari,ajb,golladay,djmoore,kirk) and I thought it was an easy accept; what say the masses? 

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12 minutes ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

FFPC

Gave
2021 1st Round 
2020 5.04 

Got
2020 1.12
2020 5.12 
2021 3rd

My team is pretty good (1pt out of playoffs), young (wilson,henry,chubb,amari,ajb,golladay,djmoore,kirk) and I thought it was an easy accept; what say the masses? 

This piece of mass does not like it for a few reasons.

1. You do have a good young core but you also just said you missed the playoffs. A 12th overall pick for potential high pick next year I don't like. And if I say potential high pick I'm not slighting your team but I've seen loaded teams stumble and  it's often the middling teams that just miss that do the best in the draft playoffs which you just indicated is where your team finished.

2. You seem pretty solid at WR and hard not to see BPA at 12 being another WR. I'd not have wanted to use that asset to just add another WR, instead save it in hopes it lands me some RB help.

3. This is not really a factor but if I were you I'd have department store price shopped. Instead of going for the latest one, I'd have gone for high seconds if you wanted to go this route. Sometimes can find those owners who get caught up on the round, not the pick. I'm probably not saying that well but I think you know what I mean.

 

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28 minutes ago, NE_REVIVAL said:

FFPC

Gave

Henry, Derrick
Njoku, David
Brown, Marquise
2020 Pick 7.03

Got

Hopkins


Took a little beating on this one but wanted wr upgrade (Hopkins/Evans/Golladay) and hopefully get by with (Sanders/Mixon/Guice). Short roster big factor as well.
 

The presence of the 7th round pick is kind of funny to me.

I hate to respond to both of your trades saying I do like the other side.  But I'm curious if you know right now or have a good idea on the two players that were not projected to be able to keep that you can now keep? As I refer to them what was your 15th and 16th position players that moved up, I ask because that does matter to me in looking at these FFPC trades that clear roster room right now.

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2 hours ago, Dr. Dan said:

out of curiosity why sell Andrews? 

As Johnny said, it depends on the projected first... Andrews is worth about 1.8 in 2020, so if it's a non playoff team I'd say you probably made out well. 

It also depends on your depth at TE. This seems like you're trading from a position of strength 

I think it's a good deal. So hard to project future 1sts but I think there is a real good chance that 2021 1st is early. Also I completely forgot to mention it is superflex so that 2.03 is worth a skosh more. 

I have Waller, Higbee, Herndon and now Doyle. But I had zero 2020 draft capital and I feel like I can package that 2021 1st to either move up from 2.03 or to try and convert it to a 2020 1st rounder. 

My team is strong but I only have Henry and a couple decent receiving RBs. I really want to parlay all this into an another stud RB if at all possible. If I do then I think I can win this year and be in a strong position for years to come.

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1 hour ago, menobrown said:

This piece of mass does not like it for a few reasons.

1. You do have a good young core but you also just said you missed the playoffs. A 12th overall pick for potential high pick next year I don't like. And if I say potential high pick I'm not slighting your team but I've seen loaded teams stumble and  it's often the middling teams that just miss that do the best in the draft playoffs which you just indicated is where your team finished.

2. You seem pretty solid at WR and hard not to see BPA at 12 being another WR. I'd not have wanted to use that asset to just add another WR, instead save it in hopes it lands me some RB help.

3. This is not really a factor but if I were you I'd have department store price shopped. Instead of going for the latest one, I'd have gone for high seconds if you wanted to go this route. Sometimes can find those owners who get caught up on the round, not the pick. I'm probably not saying that well but I think you know what I mean.

 

All fair criticism and yes sure it could be a potential high pick next yr but ill go with what is more likely (mid to late) over what is possible. Its a decent class and I get to use the pick now rather than wait a yr. By nature I am much more of a collector of future picks and certainly it could well blow up in my face. As for wr or rb we will have to wait and see what happens including trading up or back etc. Its all good and thank u for the feedback.

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2 hours ago, menobrown said:

The presence of the 7th round pick is kind of funny to me.

I hate to respond to both of your trades saying I do like the other side.  But I'm curious if you know right now or have a good idea on the two players that were not projected to be able to keep that you can now keep? As I refer to them what was your 15th and 16th position players that moved up, I ask because that does matter to me in looking at these FFPC trades that clear roster room right now.

Probably Watkins/Slayton/Tate, but its not just immediate roster relief, its moving on from some players and flexibility going forward. I know I am on the wrong value side and said as much but owning both Henry and Njoku in 3 of my 6 fpc lgs and having no shares of Watson anywhere was also a factor (as was owning brown in 2 when i never really wanted him in the first place). So I agree I lost the trade value wise but I still feel better about my team(s) now than I did before. 

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On 1/31/2020 at 2:24 PM, menobrown said:

FFPC

Gave: Julio, Bell, 2.4

Got: 1.3, 1.4

I took Julio and Bell in the 2013 startup. Getting 7 years out of these two and being able to flip them for two premium picks is about as good as it gets to me. My team had a 5 year run of finishing first or second end this year but was still the highest scoring team in the league but the two I gave up and AB(who I also took in that 2013 startup) were either all on downward descent or it was coming so to be able to try and start over on another run is very exciting to me.  I already had picks 6 and 8, so now  have 4 of top 8 picks to go with along with main young core pieces of Mahomes, Dalvin, Kamara, Evans, JuJu, Deebo, Kittle and Engram.

 

Well done 👍

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On 2/1/2020 at 10:56 AM, Dr. Dan said:

out of curiosity why sell Andrews? 

As Johnny said, it depends on the projected first... Andrews is worth about 1.8 in 2020, so if it's a non playoff team I'd say you probably made out well. 

It also depends on your depth at TE. This seems like you're trading from a position of strength 

I don't understand how you have Andrews ranked at 1.08 in this draft.

He's the concensus #4 TE overall, he's young, and he plays on an offense that is both improving and already features him. 

Do you have 7 rookies in the top 60 overall players for dynasty?  Because that's approximately where Andrews is slotted today.

 

On 2/1/2020 at 1:52 PM, barackdhouse said:

I think it's a good deal. So hard to project future 1sts but I think there is a real good chance that 2021 1st is early. Also I completely forgot to mention it is superflex so that 2.03 is worth a skosh more. 

I have Waller, Higbee, Herndon and now Doyle. But I had zero 2020 draft capital and I feel like I can package that 2021 1st to either move up from 2.03 or to try and convert it to a 2020 1st rounder.

I think the incremental value that 2.03 has in a SF league is dwarfed by the value that Andrews already had to your starting lineup.

Waller/Higbee/Herdon/Doyle screams "I'm going to start the wrong guy every single week".

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On 1/31/2020 at 12:24 PM, menobrown said:

FFPC

Gave: Julio, Bell, 2.4

Got: 1.3, 1.4

I took Julio and Bell in the 2013 startup. Getting 7 years out of these two and being able to flip them for two premium picks is about as good as it gets to me. My team had a 5 year run of finishing first or second end this year but was still the highest scoring team in the league but the two I gave up and AB(who I also took in that 2013 startup) were either all on downward descent or it was coming so to be able to try and start over on another run is very exciting to me.  I already had picks 6 and 8, so now  have 4 of top 8 picks to go with along with main young core pieces of Mahomes, Dalvin, Kamara, Evans, JuJu, Deebo, Kittle and Engram.

 

Love this one for you.

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On ‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2020 at 8:58 AM, NE_REVIVAL said:

FFPC

Gave
2021 1st Round 
2020 5.04 

Got
2020 1.12
2020 5.12 
2021 3rd

My team is pretty good (1pt out of playoffs), young (wilson,henry,chubb,amari,ajb,golladay,djmoore,kirk) and I thought it was an easy accept; what say the masses? 

You are dropping in the 5th round and in the first round (very likely as you got the last pick of the first round - assuming 12 teams).  And for that trouble you are gaining a 3rd round pick two years from now.  Unless there is someone that you are specifically targeting at 1.12 it doesn't really seem like a good move to me.  As someone stated above, you could have targeted 2.01-2.04 and likely gotten it much cheaper and probably not much difference in actual pick value during the draft. 

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17 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

Keeping the FFPC train going.

FFPC Superflex

Give: Fant, 2.07

Get: Engram

Going after both of these players in FFPC this offseason, so like them both and hate to give such a boring answer but trade seems equitable and if I was rebuilding or contending would impact which side I'd want to be on but I think both of them see their value spike over next year.

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I just pulled the trigger on this one today.

PPR 2QB

Gave:  Gardner Minshew

Got:  Marlon Mack

 

Still leaves me with Russell, Kyler, Tanny and Mariota at QB.  Prior to the trade, my running backs were Aaron Jones, Derrick Henry(traded Godwin for but its contingent on if Jameis is the week 1 starter in Tampa), Damien Williams, Devonta Freeman, Royce Freeman, Matt Breida, Darwin Thompson and Jamaal Williams.  

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2 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said:

I just pulled the trigger on this one today.

PPR 2QB

Gave:  Gardner Minshew

Got:  Marlon Mack

 

Still leaves me with Russell, Kyler, Tanny and Mariota at QB.  Prior to the trade, my running backs were Aaron Jones, Derrick Henry(traded Godwin for but its contingent on if Jameis is the week 1 starter in Tampa), Damien Williams, Devonta Freeman, Royce Freeman, Matt Breida, Darwin Thompson and Jamaal Williams.  

I saw you inquired about this trade in the dynasty discussion thread and someone replied and offered advice of not doing it. Hate to sound harsh but I think that was good advice.  Relative to his value I don't like Mack, understand you wanting to move him, but I'd have wanted more back.

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3 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said:

I just pulled the trigger on this one today.

PPR 2QB

Gave:  Gardner Minshew

Got:  Marlon Mack

 

Still leaves me with Russell, Kyler, Tanny and Mariota at QB.  Prior to the trade, my running backs were Aaron Jones, Derrick Henry(traded Godwin for but its contingent on if Jameis is the week 1 starter in Tampa), Damien Williams, Devonta Freeman, Royce Freeman, Matt Breida, Darwin Thompson and Jamaal Williams.  

Seems like that is a bit late of a condition.  Too many other factors completely out of control that will impact this.  I mean if Winston gets injured in pre-season while on the Bucs and misses the first game the trade is reversed.  What happens if Henry gets hurt and misses week 1?  It should be contingent on that too...…..A reasonable contingency would have been for Winston to resign with the Bucs.  That is really the crux of the issue not whether he starts week 1. 

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2 minutes ago, menobrown said:

I saw you inquired about this trade in the dynasty discussion thread and someone replied and offered advice of not doing it. Hate to sound harsh but I think that was good advice.  Relative to his value I don't like Mack, understand you wanting to move him, but I'd have wanted more back.

I received Mack...

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9 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said:

I received Mack...

My bad, really like it for you. I'd try and move Mack now, but even if you don't I really like it. Obviously.

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1 minute ago, menobrown said:

I'd try and move Mack now,

Why do you say this, I'm guessing the uncertainty surrounding the offense?  He's still very young(will turn 24 in March)  but I can understand having a somewhat bleak outlook on his immediate value.  Jacoby certainly fell back to earth towards the latter part of the year and there's questions about whether he'll even be their starter now.  But maybe they go WR early in the draft, and that OL is so good...

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