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QB Carson Wentz, KC (2 Viewers)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Awful, horrendous, nightmarish...Holy hyperbole Batman!
Insein
Footballguy
I love how it talks about how awful he was and then finishes up with saying he's a QB1 at LA next week.
Probably the worst 69% completion ratio with 3 TDs and 0 interceptions in NFL history.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Foles to jeffery - that’s a thing, right? I seem to recall that being a thing.
Wentz out, who’s stock goes up, who’s goes down?
Wentz out, who’s stock goes up, who’s goes down?
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Story gaining steam that he'll probably sit the rest of the way. Matchups weren't great to close anyway unless you had a Week 17 championship.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I'd not assume anything until someone other than Rapoport confirms it, but I think the Eagles know their season is over and they won't risk him if there really is an injury.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Steeler
Footballguy
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
no way I would trust Allen. I think Wentz may still play but we will see
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I wasn't excited about Wentz anyways.
I have been looking at the wire.
Allen, Lamar, Trubisky, Carr, & Mayfield are all in my consideration list.
Hate to say, but I kind of like Carr this week.
I have been looking at the wire.
Allen, Lamar, Trubisky, Carr, & Mayfield are all in my consideration list.
Hate to say, but I kind of like Carr this week.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
He was actually on fire prior to things collapsing around week 11, which we can now speculate may have been because of the back issue. Dude was throwing for ~300 yards and 2-3 TDs every week prior to week 11. Heck other than his first game back there wasn't a single week prior to that where he didn't throw for either 300+ yards or 3 TDs and he never scored fewer than 22 fantasy points in a game.
Elevencents
Footballguy
And yet people are questioning if Foles should be the starter.
Not amongst Eagles fans. It'ss very rare that I hear an eagles fan say he thinks Foles should be the starter over Wentz. Maybe 1 in 20. I think you're hearing it from non Eagle fans as a way of digging at our franchise quarterback. Everyone saw what a healthy Wentz wast year. He was the best quarterback in the entire league. Someone up thread made a good comparison. Foles is an Eli Manning type. He can get streaky and get hot at times. Wentz is an Aaron Rodgers. And they are rare to come by.
Elevencents
Footballguy
Can’t see any legit argument for Foles over Wentz long term. “Good Foles” is really good and can win a Super bowl, but he has been around many years and “Bad Foles” is an endemic part of his game. We had Bad Foles earlier this year and he doesn’t even look like a solid backup. That is what Nick Foles is. You can gamble on him when you need to, but he can just as easily bury your season.
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Slider
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
That wasn't bad Foles earlier this year. That was average Foles. Bad Foles is when he has a coach that thinks it's 1985 and designs his offense as such. Then you'll see bad Foles.
renesauz
IBL Representative
Might wanna check your reading comprehension. I made the comparison in the Eagles thread. Foles is like Eli Manning....decent, and streaky. In the right context with the right pieces around him, you can win with him. He's a solid NFL QB and deserves a starting gig, but he's not an Aaron Rodgers. Wentz may never hit his full potential, but we've seen flashes of that potential. You don't keep an ELi Manning when you have a shot at an Aaron Rodgers....and THAT is where Wentz' ceiling is.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
He was leading the mvp race before he got injured last year.
ETA. He also led us to a first round bye and home field advantage throughout the playoffs, but, you know. Whatever.
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Lol. Were you in a coma last season? He was better than Brady. Better than Brees. Better than any quarterback in the league.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
So ... SI's early 2019 rankings are out, and Wentz's may be the most egregiously bad of any player at any position.
He's at QB17. QB17! Behind the likes of Trubisky, Winston, and Lamar Jackson, to say nothing of Rivers (who may retire) and Newton (who may not play at all)
Ranking him behind Mahomes, A-Rod, Luck, Watson, Wilson I get. Brees, certainly, unless he retires. Maybe Ryan and Goff. But I'm fresh out of names to put ahead of him after that.
Is he really going to be valued as a QB2 heading into next season? If so, even after I take off my green-tinted glasses, there's massive fantasy profit potential here and I'll be scooping up every share I can get my hands on.
He's at QB17. QB17! Behind the likes of Trubisky, Winston, and Lamar Jackson, to say nothing of Rivers (who may retire) and Newton (who may not play at all)
Ranking him behind Mahomes, A-Rod, Luck, Watson, Wilson I get. Brees, certainly, unless he retires. Maybe Ryan and Goff. But I'm fresh out of names to put ahead of him after that.
Is he really going to be valued as a QB2 heading into next season? If so, even after I take off my green-tinted glasses, there's massive fantasy profit potential here and I'll be scooping up every share I can get my hands on.
need2know
Footballguy
Steeler
Footballguy
I would love to get Wentz that late next year, but I doubt he stays that low heading into next preseason.
He'll be a top 5 or 6 fantasy QB next year. And very possibly the league MVP. He was the last time he entered a season healthy.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
After he shook off the rust he quietly put together a really nice stretch of games for the meat of the season last year. And that was without any rushing stats as the knee clearly still wasn't 100%. He was very quietly on a 4500 yard, 31 TD pace this year again despite not being fully healthy.
Assuming the back thing isn't something too crazy, another year away from the knee injury he's a major buy candidate. He's a top 5 QB for me. 26 year old coming off back to back seasons where his 16 game pace was 4100/40 and 4500/31, plus he adds some solid rushing stats when healthy.
I know people will be worried about whether they can count on him to play 16 games but that is less of an issue to me in 1qb leagues since it's so easy to find a solid replacement if he misses time.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
In this day and age of instant information regarding fantasy football, my two best weapons to remain competitive year after year (been doing this since 1992) is to use this forum to get insight from other posters closer to situations and DRAFTING COMEBACK PLAYERS. A psychologist could probably explain it better but “recency bias” kills drafters. People hold a grudge on players who have a down year due to injury. Sometimes it’s justified but often it’s not. Andrew Luck helped me out big time this year. Next year I’ll be betting on Wentz. I’m convinced I’ll land him in several leagues at a huge discount with the potential for top 3 production.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
STUD
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
This guy has the physical and mental makeup of the next great QB IMO. The only thing holding him back will be injuries
