Hot Sauce Guy
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Yep, and daring Bradford to beat them in the air; which he did repeatedly.
Despite facing a better run defense next week, I think it's reasonable to assume Cook might have a bit more running room as a result.
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Despite facing a better run defense next week, I think it's reasonable to assume Cook might have a bit more running room as a result.
need2know
Footballguy
Saints defense is still pretty bad but at the beginning of this game and throughout preseason I thought they looked much better vs the run then they usually are. Maybe it's just me.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Yes their pass D is worse than run D. One of the worst I have ever seen. Every WR was wide open on every play.
need2know
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TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I suspect so. But I have to admit, Bradford had some velocity on his throws that was missing the last season or two. Last year, it seemed like he couldn't throw a fastball anymore, hence a lot of dink and dunk throws.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This seems inaccurate. Bradford looked incredibly capable. That was not all NOS making him look good. Diggs is a 3rd year breakout candidate, Theilen showed last year he was more than a flash in the pan. Cooks & McKinnon both capable receivers, and he has a top TE who's a chain mover & RZ target in Rudolph.
Bradford had a lot of wasted years with the Rams. I love his current situation. He showed incredible accuracy the last 1/4 of 2016 and I see this as a continuation, but with talent around him blossoming a bit.
I don't think he'll be 340/3 @ PIT, but I could see 260/2/1
At least I hope so - I need to start him with dalton sucking so badly.
need2know
Footballguy
I don't expect a complete meltdown.
But I do think he will get sacked/hit alot and at least 1-2 turnovers
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not disagreeing, see my projections.
Could also be a big game if PIT gets up quickly against Minny. Bradford forced into play from behind mode.
The arm looks better than it has in a couple years though.
need2know
Footballguy
With how sluggish Pittsburgh looked vs clv I wouldn't be shocked at a lower scoring game. But they tend to play crazy good at home
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Looked to me like they were stacking the line in the first half. Bradford was beating the secondary like a drum and then they dropped back a little in the 2nd and Cook beat them like a drum. I wanna see him this weekend. Not to say he wasn't impressive but the Saints D really sucks.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Cook saw 8+ men in the box on 41% of his carries which was good for the 6th most last week.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That's what I always look for In a back. Keeps getting stronger as the defense wears down. The big runs always come in the 2nd half with those guys - and Minny has the D to get up and keep pounding.
Sky's limit for this kid.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
Cook is going to keep on chugging along. Bradford is this year's breakout QB, he looks poised as hell, throws an accurate pass at will and that alone will keep defenses honest..he also has an incredibly good defense that will keep the VIkings in games,and will in turn produce more offensive possessions for them. this is a a big hype train - Thielen, Diggs, Cook, Bradford, Viikings stout defense..I like the Steelers but Cleveland gave them all they could handle last week, now they get to face a very capable Vikings offense..this game is the best of the week IMO..going to be a true dogfight.
IheartGuinness
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I mentioned this in another thread but Cook's snaps dropped from 78% to 56% and his utilization dropped from 27 to 15 last week. We saw how Cook is utilized in two seperate scenarios; one during positive game script and one during negative game script.
McKinnons snaps jumped from 17% to 35% and his utilization from 6 to 8.
I need my RBs to be game flow independent and it seems to me that McKinnon might be more trusted in obvious passing situations. I don't like this.
McKinnons snaps jumped from 17% to 35% and his utilization from 6 to 8.
I need my RBs to be game flow independent and it seems to me that McKinnon might be more trusted in obvious passing situations. I don't like this.
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Biabreakable
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
So good. But so much better with a competent passing game.
Godspeed Sam Bradford. Get well soon.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I am looking forward to this. Tampa was considered his landing spot round 1 by many mocks. I believe they had sincere interest. If he continues on this path, stays out of trouble, and doesn't pull and Eddie Lacy many teams will be kicking themselves for passing on him.
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Agreed but have to look at season-long value. Bradford likely to make a return at some point - if not, Bridgewater will be ready halfway through the season. And if neither of those happen - we've seen what elite talent at RB in a feature role can do with crappy QB play (Gurley rookie year, AP for most of his career). He's still going to be a decent fantasy starter. I'm still OK with having taken him in the 3rd round in several drafts.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Dr Andrews did his ACL surgeries, thus why he is meeting with him to discuss his current pain and recommendations about how to treat it.
Does not mean he requires surgery or that he will go to the IR. Its bad enough without jumping to conclusions I think.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Hyde still puts up numbers with Hoyer. Fournette still puts up numbers with Bortles.
I'm less concerned about Cook than I am Diggs and Theilen.
I'm less concerned about Cook than I am Diggs and Theilen.
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Weebs210
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Biabreakable
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I don't think I ever said this sounds like a good thing.
Mike Zimmer said Bradfords issue was not surgically related, meaning that he did not require surgery, but then just today he said he doesn't know. So possible in those previous comments that Zimmer was wrong or just lying.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Dalvin Cook has been exactly what Vikings’ offense needed
Currently second in the league in rushing yards and third in the league in total yards from scrimmage.
Currently second in the league in rushing yards and third in the league in total yards from scrimmage.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Zimmer On The Keys To Success On Offense So Far
Zimmer says he has high expectations for him I think he is going to be a great player. Some of the things he does, the hole may be this big (shows a foot distance with his hands) he can get skinny and pick his feet up and accelerate through there. You know, you don't get a lot of clean shots on this guy, He's got a lot of wiggle to him, acceleration. There was one play where he got through the line and the safety came up and he missed him. When he gets near the goal line he smells that and he is trying to pump it in there. Thats what I like about him the most.
He says that defenses are respecting Cook a lot. I don't know how much they are changing their coverages and pressure packages, but I have a pretty good idea that they are respecting the run with him.
Zimmer says he has high expectations for him I think he is going to be a great player. Some of the things he does, the hole may be this big (shows a foot distance with his hands) he can get skinny and pick his feet up and accelerate through there. You know, you don't get a lot of clean shots on this guy, He's got a lot of wiggle to him, acceleration. There was one play where he got through the line and the safety came up and he missed him. When he gets near the goal line he smells that and he is trying to pump it in there. Thats what I like about him the most.
He says that defenses are respecting Cook a lot. I don't know how much they are changing their coverages and pressure packages, but I have a pretty good idea that they are respecting the run with him.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Cook on His Surprising Play of the Game, Keenum's Leadership
Main things here is he says that he has been coached to cross grip the football which was something he didn't learn until he got to the Vikings.
He says his block on McCoy was the play of the game for him. He knew he needed to drop his weight and get in McCoys way and get him off the spot so Chase would have a chance to deliver the ball.
When you go against a defense like ours, all the different looks they give in practice. It has definitely prepared me for the speed of the game and yes things are starting to slow down for me. Credit to the defense for helping me get prepared.
Main things here is he says that he has been coached to cross grip the football which was something he didn't learn until he got to the Vikings.
He says his block on McCoy was the play of the game for him. He knew he needed to drop his weight and get in McCoys way and get him off the spot so Chase would have a chance to deliver the ball.
When you go against a defense like ours, all the different looks they give in practice. It has definitely prepared me for the speed of the game and yes things are starting to slow down for me. Credit to the defense for helping me get prepared.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I was really happy to see him get involved in the passing game this week. He's currently on pace for a 325/1536/5 rushing line and a 53/437/0 receiving line. His workload is pretty monstrous right now, he's the 2nd most utilized RB through 3 weeks, being utilized an average of ~25 times per game. I think in deeper ppr leagues it may be wise to handcuff him with McKinnon.
steelers1080
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He's making me feel ok about drafting him ahead of Hunt.
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Hankmoody
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Thankfully dynasty leagues last longer than 3 weeks.Oh come on
Hunt is on a historic pace with nearly 2x the FP in PPR.
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Cute. But out of curiosity what hard metrics give you the impression Cook > Hunt ROS or even through the following season?
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