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Dalvin Cook rushed 23 times for 98 yards and a touchdown in the Vikings' Week 8 win over the Redskins, adding five receptions for 73 additional yards.

That adds up to 171 yards from scrimmage, a total Cook has now reached three times this season. With half the year in the books, he's on pace for a scintillating 2,232. Winning leagues, Cook has found the end zone nine times. His only blemish vs. the Redskins was a drop. With 10 days to rest up for Week 9, Cook has a gorgeous spot in the Chiefs' subpar run defense in a game that's sure to be a shootout.

 

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Wow, he looked special as a rookie and I thought he would be really good this year but, man he...just...man.

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He has been playing in the past with a broken wheel. We are finally seeing what he can do when healthy.  I saw his college tape and was impressed by the vision, the ability to cut and change direction, and by his elusiveness. All of that is on display this season. This guy is Grade A good.

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potential top 5 guy for years if he stays healthy....that's been the only challenge.  Great all around back, one of the best in the NFL if healthy, and the line still has lots of room for improvement so there's upside too in my opinion.

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His measureables are completely irreconcilable with the way he looks on the field.  Dude looks like he is shot out of a cannon out there and his cuts are on a friggin' dime translating into instant acceleration as soon as his feet hit the ground, yet his Sparq scores were terrible.  It's like he had someone else take the test for him at the combine.

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uber stud of epic proportions 

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11 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

His measureables are completely irreconcilable with the way he looks on the field.  Dude looks like he is shot out of a cannon out there and his cuts are on a friggin' dime translating into instant acceleration as soon as his feet hit the ground, yet his Sparq scores were terrible.  It's like he had someone else take the test for him at the combine.

I've learned to count on-field production against top notch competition more highly than the Combine. The GOAT of All Time ran like a 4.7 forty (Rice).  And there are so many work out warrior guys who had great Combines who never did anything. 

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6 minutes ago, az_prof said:

And there are so many work out warrior guys who had great Combines who never did anything. 

*Donte Moncrief enters the chat*

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I think, to some degree, we all knew about his burst and change of direction but what is really surprising me is his willingness, and effectiveness, to absorb contact and drive forward.  For example, that TD was all him and he did it multiple times gaining a yard or two after being hit solidly.

I thought he had Top 3 potential, but had I expected him to be this good I would have taken him at 1.9 instead of Conner and not risked losing him before 2.4

Got lucky though and not complaining.

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My favorite player in the NFL. 
 

... I don’t know him in any of my leagues. And I’m not a Minnesota Vikings fan.

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another guy I was a year early on.. ugh, he's been incredible this year

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what happened at the end of the game last night?  just felt like they had it in hand and wanted to save him a bit?  seemed quite close for that, though of course a 10 point lead in that game was probably like 30.

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10 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

what happened at the end of the game last night?  just felt like they had it in hand and wanted to save him a bit?  seemed quite close for that, though of course a 10 point lead in that game was probably like 30.

They've been using Mattison as a closer most of the year it seems.

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3 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

They've been using Mattison as a closer most of the year it seems.

hmm, i knew he had been getting a decent number of carries, but i hadn't been paying close enough attention i guess.

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14 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

what happened at the end of the game last night?  just felt like they had it in hand and wanted to save him a bit?  seemed quite close for that, though of course a 10 point lead in that game was probably like 30.

Though a few extra points on that final drive to run out the clock would have been nice, I'll take 25 points every single week.  Imagine the horror if he was to get hurt on those last plays to ice the game?

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6 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

hmm, i knew he had been getting a decent number of carries, but i hadn't been paying close enough attention i guess.

Makes me feel confident that Mattison will be successful if something were to happen to Cook. Looks like he can play!

AKA, acquire Mattison soon as a safety net.

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It was a two score game, which typically takes Washington about 100 minutes to do, I think they they were just "resting" him, and if it was competitive he would have been in. Too bad, we have a 100 yard bonus in one league and he ended up at 98.

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2 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

Makes me feel confident that Mattison will be successful if something were to happen to Cook. Looks like he can play!

Yes, almost certainly too late to get him at a reasonable price if you have Cook. If you grabbed him earlier, he is the ultimate insurance policy. Probably go from a #1 RB to just a slightly lesser #1 RB.

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5 minutes ago, enyce said:

Though a few extra points on that final drive to run out the clock would have been nice, I'll take 25 points every single week.  Imagine the horror if he was to get hurt on those last plays to ice the game?

not a cook owner and actually more trying to gauge Mattison's true value...

in fact, i was playing against cook in one league, so no problem here.

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21 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

not a cook owner and actually more trying to gauge Mattison's true value...

in fact, i was playing against cook in one league, so no problem here.

Cook’s touch share was broken down on Twitter this morning.  First three quarters it’s been 76-79%.  Fourth quarter it’s at 49%.  They’ve been closing out big leads with AM who looks just like cook when he’s out there.  He’s possibly the number one handcuff to own whether you have cook or not.  I own cook in all three leagues and AM in two.   He finally got dropped in the the third and I’m going after him.  

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8 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

not a cook owner and actually more trying to gauge Mattison's true value...

in fact, i was playing against cook in one league, so no problem here.

It seems in games that they should be up at the end, game script will be in Mattison's favor and could be a flex play if necessary.

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Dalvin Cook had 23 rushing attempts and 6 targets as a receiver so 29 opportunities.

Makes perfect sense that they would try to keep him healthy while using Mattison to close out the game.

The two RB combined for 34 opportunities in a game where they just wanted to burn the clock with a two score lead being enough to secure the win.

Personally I would have liked to see the Vikings be a bit more aggressive on offense like they were against the Lions. Although a argument can be made for the Vikings not needing to do those things and to save some of those plays for a later time.

For those saying Mattison looks as good as Cook. I don't really think so. He definitely isn't as good as a receiver. Cook used some good fakes and disguise on those screen plays.

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1 minute ago, Biabreakable said:

Dalvin Cook had 23 rushing attempts and 6 targets as a receiver so 29 opportunities.

Makes perfect sense that they would try to keep him healthy while using Mattison to close out the game.

The two RB combined for 34 opportunities in a game where they just wanted to burn the clock with a two score lead being enough to secure the win.

Personally I would have liked to see the Vikings be a bit more aggressive on offense like they were against the Lions. Although a argument can be made for the Vikings not needing to do those things and to save some of those plays for a later time.

For those saying Mattison looks as good as Cook. I don't really think so. He definitely isn't as good as a receiver. Cook used some good fakes and disguise on those screen plays.

You may be right, I did not watch the game that closely (dealing with a sick infant, blahhhhhh). Mattison will still be a very good consolation prize if Cook is out.

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55 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

You may be right, I did not watch the game that closely (dealing with a sick infant, blahhhhhh). Mattison will still be a very good consolation prize if Cook is out.

Yeah Mattison has played very well no doubt.

I just think Cook is playing at a higher level. It feels like throwing shade at Cook to say they are the same.

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3 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

Yeah Mattison has played very well no doubt.

I just think Cook is playing at a higher level. It feels like throwing shade at Cook to say they are the same.

Cook is definitely better. By far.

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Mattison is a nice player but he's not in the same stratosphere as Cook.

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After 8 games Cook is on pace for 2232 total yards and 18 TD

He i averaging 108 combined yards over 23 games of his career so far

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7 hours ago, Hankmoody said:

Mattison is a nice player but he's not in the same stratosphere as Cook.

i would hope everyone realizes that.  Cook/McCaffrey are by far the best 2 FF RB's this season.  

If Cook goes down Mattison would probably be a top 10 FF RB though, so he's a very high upside backup.

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Uber stud.  But Mattison is the #1 handcuff BY FAR

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1 hour ago, joffer said:

Uber stud.  But Mattison is the #1 handcuff BY FAR

Favorite RB to watch play this season and I don't own him.   

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On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 10:18 PM, Jello_Biafra said:

Where do you rank Cook in dynasty if he plays 16 games this year?

He's in an superelite tier with CMC, Zeke, Barkley, Michael Thomas and Tyreek Hill.

If I were doing a dynasty startup (PPR), I would probably rank them CMC, Barkley, Cook, Thomas, Hill and Zeke.

So top 5 overall easily.  Cook should be a top 4 pick in every redraft next year.

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He's a joy to watch, but it's like in Hot Tub Time Machine where you keep waiting for the guys arm to get ripped off.

Thankfully he's listening when I yell "get out of bounds!"

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On 11/11/2019 at 8:16 AM, DocHolliday said:

Favorite RB to watch play this season and I don't own him.   

Same here 

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1 hour ago, fightingillini said:

He's in an superelite tier with CMC, Zeke, Barkley, Michael Thomas and Tyreek Hill.

If I were doing a dynasty startup (PPR), I would probably rank them CMC, Barkley, Cook, Thomas, Hill and Zeke.

So top 5 overall easily.  Cook should be a top 4 pick in every redraft next year.

Is Zeke still elite? He doesn't look so dangerous anymore.

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Cook Talks Player of the Week Honor, Success With Screens, Importance of Beating Denver

I found the end of this interview interesting as Cook is asked about a RB vision, if that is instinctual or if it is something that can be learned?

He talks about some people being visual learners, and if they watch enough tape, it can improve your vision. He says some are just gifted with that.

He talks about seeing the whole field and visualizing when opportunities might be there.

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Dalvin Cook rushed 11 times for 26 yards and a touchdown in the Vikings' Week 11 win over the Broncos, adding five receptions for 31 additional yards.

With the Vikings shockingly falling behind 20-0 before the break, the running game was never established. Cook did manage to save some face with his touchdown, but the 57 yards from scrimmage were his second fewest of the season. He now gets a well timed bye week before returning for a Week 13 road date with the Seahawks.

 

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Cook is crushing it.  What are the odds that the Vikings sign him to a long term deal after the season? 

If they don't, he is set to make 1.3 million in the final year of his contract.  Is he a hold out risk when you consider that? 

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6 hours ago, kittenmittens said:

Cook is crushing it.  What are the odds that the Vikings sign him to a long term deal after the season? 

If they don't, he is set to make 1.3 million in the final year of his contract.  Is he a hold out risk when you consider that? 

I think at this point any RB who has had a great deal of success but not a new deal is a threat to hold out. Given his injury history, he would wise to hold out but Minnesota would also be wise not to sign him to a large long term deal. The next contract really needs to come up with a solution to this issue.

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9 hours ago, kittenmittens said:

Cook is crushing it.  What are the odds that the Vikings sign him to a long term deal after the season? 

If they don't, he is set to make 1.3 million in the final year of his contract.  Is he a hold out risk when you consider that? 

There has been talk about this in Vikings circles.

The Vikings have a history of giving their drafted players new contracts a year before their contract expires and I would expect they do the same with Cook.

The Vikings are very tight to the cap right now. Some important players such as Griffen (who has played great) may need to be let go.

Maybe they get out of Rhodes contract or something like this, but I think they end up signing Cook to a long term deal in the offseason.

If they dont then yes I think Cook should hold out. The Vikings have treated their players well and they want to be part of the team. Just look at the Rudolph and Barr situations from last year 

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This looks like it might be a nail biter in the offseason.  I think the Vikings should probably sign him if he's at all affordable, but he's cruising towards Zeke money. 

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1 minute ago, kittenmittens said:

This looks like it might be a nail biter in the offseason.  I think the Vikings should probably sign him if he's at all affordable, but he's cruising towards Zeke money. 

I dont know about him getting that much, or how the Vikings could afford it if he does. 

They used to pay Peterson a ton before they let him go but they were not paying much for QB then. That has changed.

I'm expecting some discount due to the injuries and perhaps some team friendly contract as they have worked out with Theilen and others before.

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Cook with a chest injury. He looked like he got hurt the other week. Could be nothing but slightly concerning.

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5 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

Cook with a chest injury. He looked like he got hurt the other week. Could be nothing but slightly concerning.

Where did you see this? 

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