bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
maybe, people get all bent out of shape about abortion...this is America for god sakes
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H Jass
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squistion
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Some more detail on what was posted earlier:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/22/1797929/-Senate-panel-lawyers-for-Dr-Ford-tentatively-agree-she-ll-testify-about-Kavanaugh-Thursday
Senate panel & lawyers for Dr. Ford tentatively agree she'll testify about Kavanaugh Thursday
The New York Times reports that Dr. Christine Blasey Ford will, tentatively, testify Thursday about Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged attempt to rape her when they were teenagers:
The Senate Judiciary Committee and lawyers for the woman who has accused Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were teenagers reached a tentative agreement on Saturday for her to publicly testify on Thursday, an apparent breakthrough in halting negotiations.
After a brief call late on Saturday, the lawyers and aides to Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the Republican chairman of the Judiciary Committee, planned to talk again Sunday morning to continue negotiations over the conditions of the testimony, according to three people familiar with the call. Aides to Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, the committee’s top Democrat, were also involved.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/22/1797929/-Senate-panel-lawyers-for-Dr-Ford-tentatively-agree-she-ll-testify-about-Kavanaugh-Thursday
Senate panel & lawyers for Dr. Ford tentatively agree she'll testify about Kavanaugh Thursday
The New York Times reports that Dr. Christine Blasey Ford will, tentatively, testify Thursday about Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged attempt to rape her when they were teenagers:
The Senate Judiciary Committee and lawyers for the woman who has accused Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were teenagers reached a tentative agreement on Saturday for her to publicly testify on Thursday, an apparent breakthrough in halting negotiations.
After a brief call late on Saturday, the lawyers and aides to Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the Republican chairman of the Judiciary Committee, planned to talk again Sunday morning to continue negotiations over the conditions of the testimony, according to three people familiar with the call. Aides to Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, the committee’s top Democrat, were also involved.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
H Jass
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H Jass
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I can’t fully speak for Mr. Sand but I think we reasonably assume he means it’s about speaking out/caring for the life that has no voice for itself not the diabolically framed, “I MUST FULLY CONTROL ALL WOMEN’S BODIES *cackle*”
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Who's "we"?I can’t fully speak for Mr. Sand but I think we reasonably assume he means it’s about speaking out/caring for the life that has no voice for itself not the diabolically framed, “I MUST FULLY CONTROL ALL WOMEN’S BODIES *cackle*”
And is it really a "cackle"? Albeit, you've exaggerated it a bit...
H Jass
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Sure. As always it’s how hostile you want the language to be...it’s the pro-choicers version of “baby killer”. Whatever
H Jass
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I don’t know who is advising her, but I would urge her to testify confidently instead.
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H Jass
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‘You’ didn’t do anything...I was helping Sand clarify his sentence which on its own sounded silly.
Henry Ford
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Long Ball Larry
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Sand
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zoonation
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I dont think the GOP has any real concerns about losing the senate. Better safe than sorry though, I guess.
H Jass
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Sweet J
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There you go making me think of Star Trek again. Any talk of split infinitives . . . .
Sand
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I found it to be succinct. These guys are (mostly) smart enough to know what's what. Guys like Henry respond just to poke and create a kerfuffle (<---Note: nothing wrong with that).
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Henry Ford
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I do not respond just to poke and create a kerfuffle. I respect your right to your opinion, I am not a fan of abortion and it would probably end any romantic relationship I’ve ever been in if a woman I was with had one while we were together, but I do tend to feel that banning abortion is analogous to enslaving women. I try to get that viewpoint across as inoffensively as possible.
ProstheticRGK
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Henry Ford
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I’d be interested to see the Venn Diagram of people who are sympathetic to alleged victims of Catholic Priest abuse who didn’t report it for decades versus people who are outraged by Christine Blasey Ford’s claims.
Stuart Ullman
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Ford’s friend who was at the party with her has no recollection of the party and states she doesn’t know Kavanaugh.
To me, this really brings into question all the rumblings about there being a buzz around school right after the alleged incident.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/22/politics/kavanaugh-ford-accuser-nomination/index.html
To me, this really brings into question all the rumblings about there being a buzz around school right after the alleged incident.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/22/politics/kavanaugh-ford-accuser-nomination/index.html
Juxtatarot
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Yes. But I never thought the “buzz” story made sense according to what Ford has said. Plus it came from a deleted Facebook post.
Ford’s friend not remembering anything about this party is going to give Collins, Murkowski, and other Republicans who might have been on the fence enough cover to vote to confirm.
bigbottom
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Wait, so there is time to do an investigation? Let’s get these people interviewed by the FBI.
parasaurolophus
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IvanKaramazov
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I never gave the "buzz" story any credibility to begin with. It wasn't consistent with Ford's account and got retracted nearly immediately.
However, the story originally was that there were four boys at this party, plus Ford. Now all of the sudden there's another girl there. That's not a huge issue, but it is a change. If only there were some kind of bureau, perhaps at the federal level, that could investigate this thing.
parasaurolophus
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I thought i had read very early on that i had heard there were four boys and two girls. I had said something about that and it was questioned and i could not find the link. I wasnt too hung up on the detail so i didnt really look that hard and figured i could have easily been confused by the whole therapist note discrepancy.
SaintsInDome2006
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Five people were at this party?
>>In a brief interview at her home in Silver Spring, Keyser said that she did not recall the party, but that she was close friends with Ford and that she believes Ford’s allegation.
Before her name became public, Ford told The Post she did not think Keyser would remember the party because nothing remarkable had happened there, as far as Keyser was aware. Ford has said she did not tell anyone about the alleged assault until 2012.<<
- From the linked WaPo story.
There’s nothing Dem or GOP about this story. There’s no reason for Trump critics to mostly believe Ford and for Trump supporters to mostly disbelieve her. This is obviously something that takes more investigation to figure out what went on. I will say 5 people is hardly what I would ordinarily call a party, I was imagining something much larger and more raucous.
Juxtatarot
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It’s also interesting that Keyser says she doesn’t “know” Kavanaugh. I’d like to see a diagram of the five people connecting who claims to “know” whom.
IvanKaramazov
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Yeah, I'm trying to avoid getting too worked up over every little twist and turn in this story. But as I think it about, it seems like this is possibly a big deal.
Brett Kavanaugh has an obvious incentive to lie. So does Mark Judge, who isn't even reliable to begin with. I don't know enough about the "PJ" person to have an opinion about him, and I don't see it as noteworthy that he doesn't remember a party that would have been just another get-together for him.
I do find it noteworthy that a lifelong friend of Ford says that not only does she not recall this party (again, not surprising) but that she doesn't even know Brett Kavanaugh. This is coming from someone who says she believes Ford's accusation, is a personal friend of her's, and is apparently a Democrat. This is somebody who has every reason to weigh in on behalf of Ford, and instead she's adding a detail that seems pretty exculpatory to me.
SaintsInDome2006
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The psychiatrist's notes said Ford said there were 4 boys in the room, and Ford corrected that by saying that it was a misunderstanding and actually there were 4 boys at the party. Now there were 3 boys, 2 girls (including Ford).
I'm also wondering what Ford says about her leaving the party. It makes total sense to me that a girl would go with a girlfriend to a pool party (talking HS here). It's not clear if Ford left with Keyser or if she simply left and in doing so left Keyser. And if she up and left she must have been very flustered and upset after what happened. It seems to me Keyser would either remember Ford leaving her alone at a party with 3 guys she didn't know (including it would later turn out 2 who had just assaulted Ford) or Keyser would remember abruptly leaving with a very disturbed Ford. It's more than possible Ford left with Keyser and masked what had happened, maybe out of fear or misplaced shame, but that just needs to be explained.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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Huh. Ford's name is shared with the WH before article publishes. Someone immediately contacts Whelan who immediately views her LinkedIn Page and then coordinates with a conservative hatchet-job PR firm to defame an innocent man and divert attention away from Kavanaugh.
Seems like we'd better get to the bottom of that before we confirm. Put The Post reporter and Whelan under oath in front of the committee to find out who told him and what Kavanaugh knew about the scheme.
Would certainly be grounds for Impeachment if Kavanaugh denies involvement and it was later shown that he was in the middle of it. Exactly how did the WH know to contact Kavanaugh's friend (Whelan) in the first place?
(Can't believe Republicans haven't ditched the cement boots yet. The water is rising and there's still a lot of rain to fall.)
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avoiding injuries
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IvanKaramazov
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I need to think it over. I'm heading out to the Bills-Vikings game in a couple of minutes so I'm going to step away from this story for a while.
tommyGunZ
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You have to remember that these kids did not go to school together. So lots of parties are at peoples homes who you don’t really know, as compared to coed HS where you see the people every day.
parasaurolophus
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Story broke on Thursday where we found out that it was somebody that lives in the bay area and is affiliated with Stanford and knew kavanaugh from high school. How hard would it be for somebody inside Kavanaugh's circle to find a woman on linkedin with that criteria before sunday evening? I think he should be asked some questions about it to be sure, but definitely not as damning as many people are making it seem.
Sand
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Rove!
Footballguy
I don’t know if we want to to set a precedent where one accusation with zero corroboration is enough to block the confirmation of an otherwise highly qualified judge.
Bruce Dickinson
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Kavanaugh’s pattern of behavior of not telling the truth and his handlers’ pattern of behavior of concealing information at every opportunity should be compelling.
Dr. Ford’s pattern of behavior consistent with someone who was the victim of sexual assault, and taking the steps consistent with someone telling the truth should be compelling.
Remember, the prupose here isn’t to determine if there’s enough evidence to convict Kavanaugh of a crime. The purpose here is to determine if Kavanaugh has the character to serve on the Supreme Court.
The people who nominated Kavanaugh are all acting like they know he lacks the necessary character. That should be enough to drop him even if we’d never heard about Dr. Ford. Dr. Ford’s story is running up the score against Kavanaugh in this confrimation process.
Bruce Dickinson
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I don’t want to, either. Fortunately, that’s not even remotely close to what’s going on here.
If you have to tell lies like this and can’t stick to the truth, it’s time to throw this nominee back and find another one.
Bruce Dickinson
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Practice. Lots of practice.Matthias said:
