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Bernie Sanders HQ! *A decent human being. (4 Viewers)
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rockaction
Footballguy
So Bernie now gets to proclaim the behavior of the Bernie Bros as work done by "foreign agitators," just like Antifa does.
That's awesome.
FOREIGN AGITATORS!
*fire 'splodes*
That's awesome.
FOREIGN AGITATORS!
*fire 'splodes*
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Zegras11
Footballguy
I hope he wins now with all the bs the dnc has put him through.Ol' Bern is going to take the delegate lead today and not give it back.
jonessed
Footballguy
His whole thing with always describing himself as a Socialist in the beginning of speeches is just weird. It’s like he wants to be heard, while simultaneously making sure he can’t actually win.
rockaction
Footballguy
I've said that in myriad threads, BTW. I am flummoxed at his announcements of such, especially when his main policy programs aren't socialist but are socially democratic. It's like he likes jabbing his fingers and hunching over the podium or something...
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rockaction
Footballguy
I don't think it runs that deep. There's a lot be said about Trump, the GOP, and his time as part-head of the Reform Party to have given Never Trump some steam. Bernie's always caucused with Dems at least. Trump has actively run against Republicans in his time.
And their temperament is just different.
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
H Jass
Footballguy
I’m not even really saying from him. I’m saying that from the crazy wing of his hardest core supporters.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Actually yes, exactly this. A few weeks ago Chuck Todd was calling his supporters actual Brown Shirts. This week we saw MSNBC Jason Johnson on a guest spot on a Sirius XM show call his black female supporters "people from the island of misfit black girls". Yesterday the new Russiagate narrative is officially on a day before the caucus.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
They didn't like Trump...RUSSIA!
They didn't like Tulsi... RUSSIA!
They didn't like Sanders... RUSSIA!
They didn't like Tulsi... RUSSIA!
They didn't like Sanders... RUSSIA!
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
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The General
Footballguy
Who is they?
Our Intelligence Community is telling us that Russia is interfering with our elections.
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
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Zegras11
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
They are telling us what though? They are reporting what the intelligence agencies have stated.
The General
Footballguy
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Have no clue what this means.
Russia is trying to screw with us, they have their agenda. The IC reports it, media reports it.
Trump only seems to care because his child like ego and of course he’d take any help he can get from anyone/anywhere.
Bernie comes out immediately and rages about it which is exactly what anyone should be doing so props to him.
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Leroy Hoard
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The General
Footballguy
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Asked to my wife, so I'm kind of doing sloppy dictation on the phone...
Its a little bit complicated. She is giving me long perspective first (I hate you Henry!).
Lets say a worth of the services is $100,000. A single day in ICU could be between 100,000 to 250,000.
The government is now contracted to pay a % to be a hospital to not turn away people (medi-Cal/medi-Caid). The hospital could refuse all government coverage but as a Children's hospital that's not a very good look. Families frequently go bankrupt paying what they can before the government steps in. Charities will step in if the family is below-the-poverty-level and they meet other requirements.The hospital works to get charities to get involved.
Right now the Government alone owes their hospital on 22 million dollars worth of services currently outstanding. Which they hope to see 5% of (1 million). WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE 1- wealthy-ish people who cannot afford it, 2- or insurances who fight against paying what they appear to be responsible for, 3- people outside of recognition. And again they hope to see just 5% of what is owed. That's on debt for over 120 days old.
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The General
Footballguy
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
I kind of agree with everything Matthews said there. As far as the "It's over" line, I would think Bernie supporters would be celebrating that, not ridiculing it.
Max Power
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Yup. He said it’s over. I don’t get the reaction.
The idea that Bernie is a risky bet in the general election isn’t some extreme position. Trump has practically begged to run against him.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
So... if everyone was a guaranteed payor because of universal coverage that seems like a big boon, even if they were paying slightly less.Asked to my wife, so I'm kind of doing sloppy dictation on the phone...
Its a little bit complicated. She is giving me long perspective first (I hate you Henry!).
Lets say a worth of the services is $100,000. A single day in ICU could be between 100,000 to 250,000.
The government is now contracted to pay a % to be a hospital to not turn away people (medi-Cal/medi-Caid). The hospital could refuse all government coverage but as a Children's hospital that's not a very good look. Families frequently go bankrupt paying what they can before the government steps in. Charities will step in if the family is below-the-poverty-level and they meet other requirements.The hospital works to get charities to get involved.
Right now the Government alone owes their hospital on 22 million dollars worth of services currently outstanding. Which they hope to see 5% of (1 million). WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE 1- wealthy-ish people who cannot afford it, 2- or insurances who fight against paying what they appear to be responsible for, 3- people outside of recognition. Which they hope to see 5% of (1 million). That's on debt for over 120 days old.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
you don’t get the reaction to comparing bernie’s movement to the nazis taking over france? maybe it was unintentional because he just happened to be reading about it the previous evening and it was fresh in his mind, but it is lacking in tact at the very least.
The General
Footballguy
No. Feels like a giant reach to me. Was watching when this came on live and didn’t bat an eye.
He had just spent 2 minutes talking about Bernie having this wrapped up, how Bernie has done his job, that the moderate candidates can’t get to the numbers they need, and that it’s over.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Man, the thought of Bernie's passion in a debate against Trump's lack of coherent thoughts or his ability to express any depth of thought ...must-see TV.
The General
Footballguy
ren hoek
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yep - I’ve been pointing out Trump is a socialist too. And considering he keeps repeating the tariff line he’s obviously a not very bright one.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yeah - this was my take too. Don’t get me wrong though, Matthews and Carville are losing their minds over this but I don’t think that clip is an example of it.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
This is pretty obvious. She calls out everyone she perceives as a threat as a Russian asset
HellToupee
Footballguy
I doubt we will see a debate . I’m guessing they stab Bernie in the back at the convention and put mini Mike or Hillary in and they don’t debate Trump .
As a Trump supporter Bernie is the only candidate I fear. He’s passionate, his hardcore supporters are equally passionate. The rest of the field doesn’t bring this . Bernie definitely has more than a punchers chance
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I remember you mentioning you had a soft spot for Bernie. Do you think there are a lot of people that like both Bernie and Trump? I think there are but it doesn’t seem like it around here. Here, everyone seems to either hate Trump, hate Bernie or both.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I’m not sure how many overlap .Both are outliers & disruptors. My biggest concern with Bernie would be the stock market reaction
caustic
Footballguy
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