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How can you knock the strategy of nominating a moderate he knew would never get confirmed? It was a bold move to make Republicans look bad. Obama can withdraw Garland's nomination just before the election to allow Hillary to nominate a liberal.
Just want to comment on this as a Jew and a big supporter of Israel. AIPAC has themselves to blame. Supporting Israel doesn't mean we need to support everything Netanyahu does. Bernie is right to be very critical at times.
I don't have time to post much in this thread but I'm with you and I know quite a few people who are as wellNot you too GB!
They are dropping like flies around here
all around GBs.....I sense the movement strengthening!!!!!!
Not speaking for NCC, but I'm pretty sick of "strategies" being played as if we are some big ####ing game to them.
Obama gave Republicans the option to confirm a moderate to the Supreme Court. Not his fault if he knew that Republicans were going to act like children.
At no point have I claimed its his responsibility to vote one way or the other. I've said however he votes, and however that effects the election, is his responsibility. You don't get to pawn off the responsibility of your actions (voting) on someone else. You pull the lever/press the button. You make a choice. You're responsible for that choice.
Are you even trying to make a point? It really doesn't seem like you've much to say here.
Claiming someone else would be responsible for how he votes. I've been abundantly clear on this.
LOL. The Supreme Ct nominee currently being held up in historic fashion by the GOP is "recommended by the GOP" in your world?
You've really made no sense on this. But ok, I suppose there's a point here somewhere.
This is probably not what happened, given the assumptions involved. Garland was on Obama's short list for both the Sotomayor and Kagen nominations.
Merrick Garland has been recommended to the Supreme Court by name by no less than Orrin Hatch at least three times prior to his being appointed by Obama. And Hatch isn't the only one.
Garland may have been on his short list back then, but I don't believe he's his #1 choice right now. Republicans were already stating they wouldn't confirm a Justice before the election so Obama called their bluff with someone they have already confirmed on the lower court (as well as one highly recommended by Grassley).
I actually think Garland is a solid choice, and could well be Obama's top choice. We have no evidence that he is not.
Say what?
You mean Trump hasn't lost a state since he's been unopposed? Shocking.
Let's not quibble over the details...they just get in the way at the poor
attempts.
Oh, stop. You can't use MOP as an example of a particular type of human being. He's a precious snowflake.
Not to get off the subject, but I don't see any way Obama pulls back the nomination. And I also think Hillary will back up Obama and maintain Garland is the nominee congress should consider.
Sure. And we can go back to Obama's first term when Republicans were saying nice things about Hillary Clinton in order to stoke fear about Obama. Those soundbites hardly make Clinton a candidate endorsed by the GOP, just as soundbites from Hatch and a couple others about Garland from years ago make him a Supreme Ct nominee endorsed by the GOP.
Where is she going to stand on GTMO? Obama sending all those "Bad Guys" back to the ME, she is going to have to answer for that on the campaign trail. Trump is going to beat her to death with this and the Benghazi stuff. I don't agree with it all necessarily, just projecting what i think might/will happen. Obama waited and waited before pulling rank until he was in his last year and there's a reason for that.
The most recent time was when Scalia died and the Republicans said they wouldn't confirm anyone. Hatch said Obama could take this opportunity to nominate a great jurist like Merrick Garland, but he was confident Obama wouldn't.
What happens in the case where a President leaves office with a nomination on the docket? Does the Senate have to reject it if it's not pulled off by the nominator?
I guess we'll find out. Obama believes—rightly—that he's made a legitimate nomination and the process must follow. I think Hillary will back him up on that. I said this a while ago—it will be interesting to see what the GOP does in that situation. After all that obstructing, they'll be forced to either start the confirmation process or continue to insist it's not a legitimate nomination. And how long can they keep that up?The Commish said:
GOP just looks dumb here. They should be jumping at this nomination and if I am being honest, I see more nominations similar to this guy coming out of Hillary before I see some left wing progressives as some have suggested. I guess we'll see. It appears that the short staffed court is already impacting decisions. Some cases have been thrown back to lower courts and others have been delayed because they can't come to a conclusion with the 8. Should be interesting going forward.
Fair, it was a cheap shot.Henry Ford said:
