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Just now, BladeRunner said:

How would you feel if Trump said Hitler did some good?

Why is this about Trump? But I would have to look at what he said was good.

Hitler could have cured cancer and Trump could praise him for passing legislation that funded these operations and that would be great and at the same time it doesn't absolve what Hitler did the rest of the time or the fact Trump could still be appalled by everything else Hitler did.  

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4 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said:

Why is this about Trump? But I would have to look at what he said was good.

Hitler could have cured cancer and Trump could praise him for passing legislation that funded these operations and that would be great and at the same time it doesn't absolve what Hitler did the rest of the time or the fact Trump could still be appalled by everything else Hitler did.  

If you guys could only hear what you sound like from outside of yourselves.  This is crazy.  Are we actually defending people who praise evil historical leaders?  These people killed MILLIONS of their own people, but because Castro taught someone to read he's a swell guy?  BTW, that "reading program" Bernie is praising - yeah, you could read the trumped up charges against you while you rot in jail.  It was that and the communist manifesto.  It wasn't a "reading program", it was a propaganda, brainwashing and indoctrination program. 

Has everyone gone crazy?

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13 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

If you guys could only hear what you sound like from outside of yourselves.  This is crazy.  Are we actually defending people who praise evil historical leaders?

Has everyone gone crazy?

I feel the same listening to you with all your fear mongering,  end of life as we know it predictions if Sanders becomes president. 

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It is strange watching Bernie Bros and Trump supporters kind of play this "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing online.  Now they are joining in on this Biden attack about this declining state of mind.  Even using an edited video from Trump guy by both sides.  Like Bernie's mind is crystal clear AT HIS AGE

I ask all the time with Sanders supporters.   If Trump is so scared of Sanders:

1.  Why is so concerned about the Democrat process with Bernie but not one of the other candidates.  

2.  When is Trump going to do the thing that got him impeached like he did for Biden?   When is Rudy is going to Russia and other countries looking for Bernie dirt

 

 

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1 hour ago, BladeRunner said:

The dude has praised Castro, Maduro, Chavez and Mother Russia (He even honeymooned over there).  Heck, just last week he said Castro did some good.  How would you feel if Trump said Hitler did some good?  You'd be out of your mind, wouldn't you?  Yet here all of you are, praising Bernie and his "ideas".

You can't ignore any of that.  That is an insight to WHO Bernie really is, despite his talk.  Actions speak louder than words.

Castro and Hitler are not equals, not even close.  So if Trump praised Hitler there would/should be huge fall out.  

Castro is closer to a Rodrigo Duterte.  What did Trump say about him again? 🤔

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1 hour ago, msudaisy26 said:

I feel the same listening to you with all your fear mongering,  end of life as we know it predictions if Sanders becomes president. 

Yeah, that's what they all said down in Cuba with Castro before he took power.  Chavez before he took power.  and on, and on, and on.  ;)

But, Castro was this great humanitarian who taught people how to read (the communist manifesto), so he wasn't so bad.

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30 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Castro and Hitler are not equals, not even close.  So if Trump praised Hitler there would/should be huge fall out.  

Castro is closer to a Rodrigo Duterte.  What did Trump say about him again? 🤔

Castro was slightly less evil so he gets a pass?  Wut?

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1 minute ago, BladeRunner said:

Castro was slightly less evil so he gets a pass?  Wut?

No pass at all. Not even close to what I was saying. 

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So you would have been fine with a president who operated like Fidel Castro did?   

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1 hour ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

Bernie get Jesse Jackson's endorsement.

This is BIG

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37 minutes ago, Gopher State said:

This is BIG

also yuge 

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2 hours ago, Gopher State said:

This is BIG

I doubt it's a game changer.  

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Pains me to say it, but I think Bernie needs to pull the plug on this thing and get everyone he can behind Biden now. We all knew we couldn't afford to let Trump and the Republicans run the show, we coasted by for a bit, but now we're all paying for it. Getting these people away from positions of power is job one now. Consolidating support behind Biden and the downticket races is necessary as soon as possible.

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Bernie setting an example for all to follow by canceling his rally in Ohio. Good leadership.

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1 minute ago, hagmania said:

Bernie setting an example for all to follow by canceling his rally in Ohio. Good leadership.

Biden is also canceling his rally.

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4 minutes ago, Snoopy said:

Biden is also canceling his rally.

Tulsi was way ahead of them.

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On 3/9/2020 at 1:45 PM, Gr00vus said:

Pains me to say it, but I think Bernie needs to pull the plug on this thing and get everyone he can behind Biden now. We all knew we couldn't afford to let Trump and the Republicans run the show, we coasted by for a bit, but now we're all paying for it. Getting these people away from positions of power is job one now. Consolidating support behind Biden and the downticket races is necessary as soon as possible.

There's still 2000 delegates to go and 3M votes in Cali yet to be counted... he's not out of this yet.  Trends don't look great, but he's not out of it

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Just got back from voting for Bernie today. I know it is a long shot, but let's go. 

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SPIT OUT THE "SOCIALIST" HOOKS PEOPLE!!!!!  :lmao: 

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Bernie wins NORTH DAKOTA WHOOOOOO WHOOOOOO

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Nate Cohn has an astute observation of one of the key factors limiting Sanders' chances:

 

Nate Cohn@Nate_Cohn

He did not need to become the establishment favorite. He did need to try and at least make them feel somewhat comfortable. And personal relationships matter: if Sanders had spent 4 years shmoozing Clyburn after SC, are you certain he would have endorsed Biden in a tight race?

 


I've seen plenty of Berners upset at Warren for not endorsing Sanders, and I get it. But it's really a pretty damning indictment of his candidacy that he can't even build a coalition with people who agree with them on most of the issues.

 

 

Like most politics, elections are about building coalitions.  Bernie was never all that interested in expanding his base.  Maybe he saw futility in trying to court Clyburn over the last 4 years, or that he was rebuffed by other DNC leaders - but ultimately that is what he needed to do.  Everyone got mad when Clinton said: "Nobody likes Sanders" - but maybe there is more truth there than he and his supporters want to acknowledge.

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37 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

Nate Cohn has an astute observation of one of the key factors limiting Sanders' chances:

 

Nate Cohn@Nate_Cohn

He did not need to become the establishment favorite. He did need to try and at least make them feel somewhat comfortable. And personal relationships matter: if Sanders had spent 4 years shmoozing Clyburn after SC, are you certain he would have endorsed Biden in a tight race?

 


I've seen plenty of Berners upset at Warren for not endorsing Sanders, and I get it. But it's really a pretty damning indictment of his candidacy that he can't even build a coalition with people who agree with them on most of the issues.

 

 

Like most politics, elections are about building coalitions.  Bernie was never all that interested in expanding his base.  Maybe he saw futility in trying to court Clyburn over the last 4 years, or that he was rebuffed by other DNC leaders - but ultimately that is what he needed to do.  Everyone got mad when Clinton said: "Nobody likes Sanders" - but maybe there is more truth there than he and his supporters want to acknowledge.

Good stuff hard to believe Bernie supporters will support Biden.

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Bernie has scheduled a 1:00 PM presser in Burlington.

My assumption is he will talk about what he sees as his path forward, and how important it is to get this election right.  He did not speak last night, so this will be the chance for him to outline his plan for his supporters.

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Just as an aside - and I am not predicting this - if Bernie dropped out, the DNC would obviously cancel the debate on Sunday, but the only thing I can picture is Gabbard jumping up and down with her hand raised, saying:  "Hey, I am still here!  I am not leaving the race!  I can fill in for Bernie on the debate stage!"

 

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22 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

 the only thing I can picture is Gabbard jumping up and down 

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48 minutes ago, Gopher State said:

Good stuff hard to believe Bernie supporters will support Biden.

There's a MASSIVE age gap discrepancy between Biden voters and Bernie voters, and huge policy differences. I know people like Tim will come out and say his old "but they'll come out to vote against Trump." No. They won't.

Millennials couldn't get out to vote for Bernie. They certainly aren't getting out for Biden. Millennials already have nothing. They're not coming out for a guy that promises "nothing would fundamentally change."

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1 hour ago, Gopher State said:

Good stuff hard to believe Bernie supporters will support Biden.

4 more years of Republicans will make it even harder for Bernie's ideas to take hold. 

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36 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

Bernie has scheduled a 1:00 PM presser in Burlington.

My assumption is he will talk about what he sees as his path forward, and how important it is to get this election right.  He did not speak last night, so this will be the chance for him to outline his plan for his supporters.

As long as it's not him announcing he is dropping out.  I was excited for the debate Sunday.  

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39 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

Just as an aside - and I am not predicting this - if Bernie dropped out, the DNC would obviously cancel the debate on Sunday, but the only thing I can picture is Gabbard jumping up and down with her hand raised, saying:  "Hey, I am still here!  I am not leaving the race!  I can fill in for Bernie on the debate stage!"

 

Sounds like they're trying to cancel the debate regardless of what Bernie does 

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Yamiche Alcindor
@Yamiche


What will Senator @BernieSanders say in his 1 p.m. speech today after @JoeBiden
 extended his lead, won black voters overwhelmingly and won big in largely white suburbs?

A source close to the senator tells me: "In summary: He looks forward to the next debate and we fight on."

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29 minutes ago, ShamrockPride said:

There's a MASSIVE age gap discrepancy between Biden voters and Bernie voters, and huge policy differences. I know people like Tim will come out and say his old "but they'll come out to vote against Trump." No. They won't.

Millennials couldn't get out to vote for Bernie. They certainly aren't getting out for Biden. Millennials already have nothing. They're not coming out for a guy that promises "nothing would fundamentally change."

Really agree with you on the last paragraph. Whether it was Hillary preaching that a vote for her was a 3rd term of Obama, or Biden trying to bring us back from Trump the message doesn't resonate with young voters. Why? Because what you are trying to go back to a system that  doesn't work for them. 

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1 hour ago, Sinn Fein said:

Nate Cohn has an astute observation of one of the key factors limiting Sanders' chances:

Nate Cohn@Nate_Cohn

He did not need to become the establishment favorite. He did need to try and at least make them feel somewhat comfortable. And personal relationships matter: if Sanders had spent 4 years shmoozing Clyburn after SC, are you certain he would have endorsed Biden in a tight race?


I've seen plenty of Berners upset at Warren for not endorsing Sanders, and I get it. But it's really a pretty damning indictment of his candidacy that he can't even build a coalition with people who agree with them on most of the issues.

Like most politics, elections are about building coalitions.  Bernie was never all that interested in expanding his base.  Maybe he saw futility in trying to court Clyburn over the last 4 years, or that he was rebuffed by other DNC leaders - but ultimately that is what he needed to do.  Everyone got mad when Clinton said: "Nobody likes Sanders" - but maybe there is more truth there than he and his supporters want to acknowledge.

He always seemed to me to be the type that would rather lose clinging to ideological purity than win by adjusting.

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25 minutes ago, ShamrockPride said:

There's a MASSIVE age gap discrepancy between Biden voters and Bernie voters, and huge policy differences. I know people like Tim will come out and say his old "but they'll come out to vote against Trump." No. They won't.

Millennials couldn't get out to vote for Bernie. They certainly aren't getting out for Biden. Millennials already have nothing. They're not coming out for a guy that promises "nothing would fundamentally change."

If they don't vote who cares about their fundamental changes then? 4 more years of Republicans judges and their movement is dead. Vote Biden work to change from the inside.

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Clearly Bernie isn’t all that concerned with 4 more years of Trump. 
 

Thanks, Bernie!

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So he is staying in and seeing what happens after the debate with Biden this Sunday basically.

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24 minutes ago, JbizzleMan said:

Clearly Bernie isn’t all that concerned with 4 more years of Trump. 
 

Thanks, Bernie!

Yeah, no thanks.  Rather Sanders go down swinging than hand it over to a deadender sellout like Biden.  This is Sanders’ last run, millions of people stand to be harmed by a Biden/Trump presidency, he needs to go scorched earth.  

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Fair enough to get in one more debate to try and turn things around, and see what he can do with Florida, Ohio, Illinois, and Arizona next Tuesday. Recent poll out here showed Bernie losing the AZ Latino vote badly, and that’s a demographic they include among their best when they talk about electability. If he loses all of these states as expected, and loses the Latino vote here, not sure what else he can do. But you can’t really blame him for sticking around. It’s not a delegate blowout in reality yet, only in polls and punditry.

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I think he can have a clearly better debate performance - and still lose the primaries.

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3 minutes ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

I think he can have a clearly better debate performance - and still lose the primaries.

Considering someone bragged about their dong size during a debate and skipped one entirely last cycle and still became President, no doubt.

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4 minutes ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

I think he can have a clearly better debate performance - and still lose the primaries.

Yep...unfortunately people have already made up their minds at this point.

 

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No way the DNC allows this debate to happen on Sunday. Bernie will make him look absolutely silly. 

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7 minutes ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

I think he can have a clearly better debate performance - and still lose the primaries.

The Democrat base is about 25% African American. If Bernie can’t get any more than 15-25% of that vote vs Biden it is clear we don’t want Sanders as the candidate to try to defeat Trump. While it is obvious Sanders would get well over 50% of the Black vote vs Trump the Democrats need a candidate that can enthusiastically capture over 80% of the Black vote. That is far more significant that Sanders ability to garner the support of youth that he currently can’t even get to come out to vote in the primaries in any significant number

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32 minutes ago, ren hoek said:

Yeah, no thanks.  Rather Sanders go down swinging than hand it over to a deadender sellout like Biden.  This is Sanders’ last run, millions of people stand to be harmed by a Biden/Trump presidency, he needs to go scorched earth.  

Yes, because that would be extremely helpful to enacting liberal policies over the next 4 years. 

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1 minute ago, tommyGunZ said:

Yes, because that would be extremely helpful to enacting liberal policies over the next 4 years. 

Almost like it's not about actually getting their policies enacted? 🤔 

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3 minutes ago, tommyGunZ said:

Yes, because that would be extremely helpful to enacting liberal policies over the next 4 years. 

This assumes Biden has the slightest interest enacting any of Bernie's policies

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17 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

No way the DNC allows this debate to happen on Sunday. Bernie will make him look absolutely silly. 

It's happening, just without an audience.

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45 minutes ago, ren hoek said:

Yeah, no thanks.  Rather Sanders go down swinging than hand it over to a deadender sellout like Biden.  This is Sanders’ last run, millions of people stand to be harmed by a Biden/Trump presidency, he needs to go scorched earth.  

I am happy Bernie is staying in the race, but I disagree that he should go with the scorched Earth approach. That could potentially hurt future candidates that have similar ideas as him. 

Bernie needs to walk the line of pushing Biden, but gracefully bowing out if he wants to continue to push the Democratic party to the left. 

We need to remember that Bernie could be one major leak or gaffe away from being the nominee and Biden is far from a perfect candidate. 

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