2016 NFL Draft Thread - NO SPOILERS ALLOWED (1 Viewer)

Insein said:

Miami is stupid though. They can convince themselves that Tannenhill is still the guy. And SF depends on Chip. He made many mistakes here but he still got Vick, Foles, Sanchez and Bradford to win 27 games. I think he can keep the Niners at 6 wins or so.

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Arodin said:

• The first pure long snapper to have been picked in the draft was Tyler Schmitt, a sixth round pick (189th overall) in 2008, selected by the Seattle Seahawks.[6]
• Joe Cardona was drafted as a long snapper by the New England Patriots in the fifth round (166th overall) of the 2015 NFL Draft.
  

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Riversco said:

When looking for a QB, you'd rather have more top 5 overall picks than a slew of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks.

From 1995-2014, 11 of 23 QBs selected top 5 overall panned out (slightly under half):

good: mcnair,  p manning, mcnabb, palmer, e manning, rivers, ryan, stafford, newton, luck, bortles

bad: k collins, leaf, couch, a. smith, vick, carr, harrington, a. smith, young, russell, snchez, bradford, rg3

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renesauz said:

Several of your "bad" QBs have carved out relevant careers. Vick doesn't belong on the "bad" list by any measure. Jury is still out on Bradford and RG3, but they don't belong on "good" list at this point either. Kerry Collins is arguable..he had a few decent years. A Smith is a disapointment as a #1 pick, but absolutely does NOT belong on a bust list.

Revising your list then: 13 of 23 panned out (putting VIck and Smith here), 2 more have been serviceable at times (Collins, Sanchez), for 2 the jury is out (with serviceable or bust more likely than hit: Bradford, RG3), and 6 were outright busts.

While I'm not a fan of moving up for a QB, you've actually over-stated the bust rate

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Insein said:

Bradford is a bust by every measurable rate. He failed his first team as a #1 pick. He's failed his 2nd team so far as well. RG3 can salvage a journeyman career since he's sill young but he's been a bust too. Vick did have a pretty good early part of his career so I wouldn't call that a bust. Collins had some success for Carolina but ultimately burned out. Had an OK career.  Alex Smith was a total bust for SF. He's been decent  for KC but not a difference maker. 

So while it may improve the "higher pick" ratio, I think his bust rate was fairly accurate for the team that drafted them.

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kodycutter said:

He was better in NY, also got them to a Super Bowl.  Played for 16 years.

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