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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶♂️ (8 Viewers)
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eaganwildcats
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I honestly thought this was interesting and figured I'd post it in this thread. It's not the known knowns or the unknown knowns, it's the unknown unknowns that hurt the most, according to Rummy.
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12251286/calories-alcoholic-drinks-chart
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12251286/calories-alcoholic-drinks-chart
I want to encourage everyone who's starting out on this journey: it starts out hard, but it's all worth it. I started last year over 190, made it all the way to 157, currently around 160, and after what I thought was a major cheat day yesterday, I was only at 162. My metabolism is running high, I'm eating healthier foods while still enjoying it, and I'm in the best shape of my life! Granted, I'm an electrician, which helps burn calories, but it's still possible as long as you eat right and keep moving.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Didn't get around to posting yesterday but finished December with a timed 45 minuter netting 9,582 meters.
Final December Total: 136,441
Jan 1: 10,137 meters - another timed 45 minutes.
Jan Total: 10,137
Final December Total: 136,441
Jan 1: 10,137 meters - another timed 45 minutes.
Jan Total: 10,137
Otis
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
ErgOtis Row Stats
Jan 2 Row: 10,021m in 45:39 (MAF)
January total: 10,021m
Wanted to start off the year with a 10k. Didn't row yesterday, no good excuse other than a holiday hangover and stuff to do around the house. But I did stick with my main food guides for the month -- no alcohol and no sugary snacks, and had reasonable meals.
Onwards we march.
Jan 2 Row: 10,021m in 45:39 (MAF)
January total: 10,021m
Wanted to start off the year with a 10k. Didn't row yesterday, no good excuse other than a holiday hangover and stuff to do around the house. But I did stick with my main food guides for the month -- no alcohol and no sugary snacks, and had reasonable meals.
Onwards we march.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
I really enjoyed overeating during the holidays. I ate so much that I only had 1000 calories yesterday and burnt most of those off at the gym.
Going for about 1500 calories a day the next two months with a goal of losing 23.4 lbs in 8.5 weeks (including some of my post holiday chunk and water weight). It's aggressive and won't leave me room for any cheat days but I have kept my cardio up and am running further and faster than i was last time i started the diet that i should be able to eat some nice 800 to 1000 calorie meals while I'm doing this. It's all about capture control at breakfast/ lunch/ snack.
Plan for today
Coffee no sugar, egg white breakfast sandwich - 328 calories
Small santa fe salad 230 calories
Turkey and mustard on a pretzel roll 280 calories
Chicken burrito with a little brown rice vegetables and guacamole 950 calories
2 Sam Adams 360 calories (honestly will probably leave these out today but it helps to know i have the option so i don't feel like I'm depriving myself)
5k run at 6mph minus 593 calories
Total net 1555 calories (1195 if i skip the beers)
Doesn't even sound like a diet.
Going for about 1500 calories a day the next two months with a goal of losing 23.4 lbs in 8.5 weeks (including some of my post holiday chunk and water weight). It's aggressive and won't leave me room for any cheat days but I have kept my cardio up and am running further and faster than i was last time i started the diet that i should be able to eat some nice 800 to 1000 calorie meals while I'm doing this. It's all about capture control at breakfast/ lunch/ snack.
Plan for today
Coffee no sugar, egg white breakfast sandwich - 328 calories
Small santa fe salad 230 calories
Turkey and mustard on a pretzel roll 280 calories
Chicken burrito with a little brown rice vegetables and guacamole 950 calories
2 Sam Adams 360 calories (honestly will probably leave these out today but it helps to know i have the option so i don't feel like I'm depriving myself)
5k run at 6mph minus 593 calories
Total net 1555 calories (1195 if i skip the beers)
Doesn't even sound like a diet.
The Flying Turtle
Footballguy
The best part about gaining weight is that you see FAST results when you start eating right again.
Dec 31 - 257.8
Jan 2 - 253.7
Shooting for 245 by Feb 1, 230 by Memorial Day.
Dec 31 - 257.8
Jan 2 - 253.7
Shooting for 245 by Feb 1, 230 by Memorial Day.
Zow
Footballguy
I actually had an "Omission Ultimate Light" yesterday and would recommend. Gluten free and <100 calories per bottle. Has some actual taste and drinks much cleaner than the macro light beers you drink.
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Fourth consecutive day of closing my exercise ring before 7 am. Still more walking than running but the split will shift by the end of the month.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Yes Indeed. I found sugars were easier to cut out but bread, pasta, rice - I used to eat a lot of those 3, I've had work hard to cut back.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Jan 2: 9,598 - maybe should have eaten something prior to this today - battling a headache making the workout quite the slog.
Jan Total: 19,735
Jan Total: 19,735
bostonfred
Footballguy
Stuck to this verbatim except for the burrito which i replaced with a huge container of chicken tortilla soup from wegmans and some chips. Also switched the beer for wine. Easily under 1500 net calories for the day. Weighed in at the gym after my workout and was already down a couple pounds so my hope of burning through water weight quickly is looking good.bostonfred said:
2 days down 58 to go.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Not sure but it's a good idea. For me the issue isn't even that I need a beer, it's the knowledge that even though I'm dieting, i can still eat burritos and drink beers and lose two pounds a week. I know im weakest at night so I plan my day around the fact i get to have a big meal at night and it doesn't feel like I'm depriving myself of anything, which makes the whole thing more sustainable.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Post holidays started today at 216. Plan is to lose 20. I’ll see where I am at 196. I feel really good around 204 so 8 below that should feel great. Exercise is limited to long walks until get cleared by the doc. Won’t be able to burn as much as usual so will to be diligent with what I take in. Cutting sugar is the first key. I’ll wean myself off with a few healthy choice fudge bars. Wine will be the next thing. 2 glasses good for the heart and all. Had a huge 2014 Pine Ridge bottle of Fortis New Years Eve. So at least went out big. Motivated
MAC_32
Footballguy
Those beginning the trek. Goals and plans don't matter. It's all about commitment. Are you committed to whatever you wrote down sometime over the last week or so. 90% are not and will be the same or worse this time next year. What are you going to do to sustain the commitment so you can be the outlier.
Good luck
Good luck
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
This!
Goals are good but goals are easily met when you are consistent and make it a part of your day. I work out at least 5 days a week and walk my Lab every day for 30-45 minutes at a fast pace. Everything I eat I think "Is this good for me?" I had pizza on New Years day for the first time in 6 months and really enjoyed it but I won`t eat in again for 6 months. I have been doing this most of my adult life. I am 6-1 and when I was in my late 20s and was lifting heavy weighed 220. Now I stay around 205 without ever getting over 208. Lite beer and once in awhile a bourbon on the rocks are my choice if I drink.
Bottom line is just do something active everyday.
Steeler
Footballguy
MAF question. I was told there would be no MAF!
My calculated HR is 120 so am I supposed to get as close to that as possible without going over or just not go over? I can go at an easy pace where my HR stays between 100 and 110 so should I try to go a bit faster the get closer to 120 or just keep doing what I'm doing?
My calculated HR is 120 so am I supposed to get as close to that as possible without going over or just not go over? I can go at an easy pace where my HR stays between 100 and 110 so should I try to go a bit faster the get closer to 120 or just keep doing what I'm doing?
gianmarco
Footballguy
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eaganwildcats
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Where are you? I'm back on the bandwagon after missing Dec. 26 and 27. Chugging along having completed Day 34 (of 36) today.
Tecumseh
Footballguy
Still plugging away. I did skip NYE, but got out for a run NYD. Yesterday I knew I wouldn't be able to work out, so i set a goal of 15k steps, and ended up over 16k. Since I definitely had alot of intentional movement to meet my goal, I'm counting it a a success. today I woke up and did a "Shaun T" video before work, and I'll pick up another 10k steps tonight. Tomorrow is a gym day.
Honestly, I'm getting to a point where I want to work out/run everyday, regardless of the challenge, which is why I haven't been updating as much. Whereas the first time around I really needed to use this thread for added accountability, this time I don't feel like I need it much, if at all, to get me motivated. I'll keep posting every few days to a week, tho, particularly as I hit any milestones.
Day 33/100
Bank: $310
NutterButter
Footballguy
Weren't you tracking your diet at one point? I thought that was the approach you were going to be taking for this set of 100 days?
Otis
Footballguy
ErgOtis Row Stats
Jan 4 Row: 10k in 45:41 (MAF)
January total: 20,021m
Average HR 136, max 153, almost 700 calories
I’ve rowed one slightly faster 10k, but my damn AirPod kept coming loose and at one point fell on the floor and I had to stop and go get it. If not for that, this would have been my best time yet. I’ll take it.
On pace for 150k for the month, which would be a nice increase from last month. Would like to make a little more than that, we’ll see what I can do. Still already way behind @eaganwildcats, who is a daily 10k maniac. But I’ll try my best to keep up.
Haven’t had a drop of alcohol in 2020. Sadly this is the longest I’ve gone without in a long time. Also no desserts or sugary treats; just snacking on things like peanuts, cheese and crackers, etc., and eating right. If I can replicate these four days over 2 months or 4 months or 6 months, look out. And then combine that with getting my knee fixed and starting up the running again? Good lawd!
Jan 4 Row: 10k in 45:41 (MAF)
January total: 20,021m
Average HR 136, max 153, almost 700 calories
I’ve rowed one slightly faster 10k, but my damn AirPod kept coming loose and at one point fell on the floor and I had to stop and go get it. If not for that, this would have been my best time yet. I’ll take it.
On pace for 150k for the month, which would be a nice increase from last month. Would like to make a little more than that, we’ll see what I can do. Still already way behind @eaganwildcats, who is a daily 10k maniac. But I’ll try my best to keep up.
Haven’t had a drop of alcohol in 2020. Sadly this is the longest I’ve gone without in a long time. Also no desserts or sugary treats; just snacking on things like peanuts, cheese and crackers, etc., and eating right. If I can replicate these four days over 2 months or 4 months or 6 months, look out. And then combine that with getting my knee fixed and starting up the running again? Good lawd!
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
I’m committed to being one of the success stories in here this year. 6:00 am on a Saturday and am headed out to walk/run. And it’s 39 degrees and been raining all morning.
bostonfred
Footballguy
@Otis @eaganwildcats @anyotherrowingnerds
I want to mix in some rowing now after reading about it in here. Is there a "couch to 5k" for rowing that you guys know about? Or any tips for getting started with rowing? I'm pretty sure my form is terrible (am i supposed to lean back at the back of the motion? Be mostly straight? Use my arms a lot or more legs and core?) And i don't know if i need to mess with resistance like on a spinning bike or if it's just using the natural resistance from the fan. Total noob and I'm already sore from doing 2500m yesterday but it seems like a good second exercise for cross training.
I want to mix in some rowing now after reading about it in here. Is there a "couch to 5k" for rowing that you guys know about? Or any tips for getting started with rowing? I'm pretty sure my form is terrible (am i supposed to lean back at the back of the motion? Be mostly straight? Use my arms a lot or more legs and core?) And i don't know if i need to mess with resistance like on a spinning bike or if it's just using the natural resistance from the fan. Total noob and I'm already sore from doing 2500m yesterday but it seems like a good second exercise for cross training.
Otis
Footballguy
Awesome — welcome to the club! It’s an amazing exercise. I rowed crew for a year in college, and man did it whip my pudgy butt into shape. And the low impact is great — I recently experience knee issues when trying to run, but this has been problem free.
I just picked up this poster from Amazon for my laundry room where I keep the Erg, not because I needed it, but just figured the room was drab and there might be some helpful pointers especially if the wife wants to start rowing.
The movements is basically four parts. From the rest position, legs outstretched, movement 1 is to stretch your arms forwards and lean forward. Movement 2 is basically holding that upper body posture while bending your knees and sliding forward as far as you reasonably can. That’s the setup. Then you basically do the same thing in reverse: use your legs first—your biggest muscles (arms and back help the last motion, and you should use them at that point, but this is mostly legs at the end of the day)—to propel you backwards in movement 3, and movement 4 is leaning back and using your arms and back to pull the chain. The goal is to basically have the longest driving motion possible — reach as far forward as your body will reasonably allow, and in the end pull the chain as far back as you reasonably can. That long drive is what propels the boat forward.
Once you have there motion down, even though it’s 4 steps, it should all basically merge into two smooth motions of the handle and chain, forward then backward. In other words the speed of movement of the handle on your coil up should be the same for when you lean forward and outstetch your arms as when you coil up your legs and slide forward. The transition should be smooth.
I’m sure there are lots of good vids on YouTube re form.
The only tip I would give for getting started is start slow. Don’t do more than a pace or 20 or 22 strokes per minute, and focus on your form. You can worry later about power, leg driving, and time and distance. Start with some 2k workouts, and then extend to 5k and eventually 10k.
Resistance from the fan is fine. What model do you have? If there is a resistance or drag setting, set it in the middle. (Mine is just past 5 out of 10).
Welcome to our club of 3! Post your progress.
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
youtube is your friend. I haven't gotten the courage to do it, but you can video your form and get some feedback on the Concept 2 boards - from looking around over there I think folks are generally quite gentle & helpful. As @Otis said, it's definitely supposed to be a leg-centric exercise so should really focus on the leg drive - it can be easy to just mail that part in and use mostly arms / back. On my rower there is a display that shows the "force curve" https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/tips-and-general-info/using-the-force-curve that can be helpful in identifying issues with your stroke.
All that said, you can go down a rabbit hole of 'perfection' on this stuff, so I've had to continuously remind myself "doing something is way better than nothing - I don't need to spend all day researching the best possible workout plan / form / whatever".
Otis
Footballguy
Good advice above -- also BF, here is a video from the Concept2 website -- probably the best authority you'll find:
https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/technique-videos
And description:
https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/technique-videos
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Awesome, thanks for the quick response. It's kind of cool to see you as the expert on this.
I am using the machine at the gym, I have a treadmill and free weights at home, and i mostly joined the gym so i can take my kid to swim lessons there and do some lifting but it's also nice because they have dodgeball and other gym classes for kids that last long enough i can get a workout, so i want to do stuff i can't do at home.
Started yesterday with a warm up run, 10 minutes at 7mph followed by some walking and 2500m rowing, went relatively slow close to 15 min.
Today did a 30 min 5k followed by 2k rowing in just under 10 minutes. I feel like my form was a lot closer to what you said. I definitely feel it in my upper body still so I'll move up gradually but it would be nice to take a day off running and just row/lift and still burn a bunch of calories.
Otis
Footballguy
It's a really great workout to mix in. I'm burning near 700 calories in a 45 minute 10k, while working my cardio, my lungs, my legs, core, and back and biceps. Really the only big muscle group lacking is chest and triceps, but I've started today with sprinkling in push-ups. Combine a row with some push-ups, and throw a few sets of either shoulder raises or shoulder presses, and you have a truly complete workout.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
Who else is still reading Otis theads in 2020? 
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Jan 4: 10,307 in 45 minutes. average HR 145. Previous few I was getting all stressed out if my HR crept to 150 which was super annoying. Decided not to really care this time and also not wear a sweatshirt
much improved. Jan Total: 39,577
eaganwildcats
Footballguy
Just stay tuned for 2021: Otis' how to stay shredded threadWho else is still reading Otis theads in 2020?
Otis
Footballguy
Rowtis Stats
Jan 5 Row: 1 hour row (13,023m in 1:00:27) (MAF-ish); Burned 961 calories, Avg HR 140, max 162
January total: 33,044m
This morning I daydreamed about doing a 20k. I figured it couldn’t be that hard if I could set aside 90 minutes. Couldn’t go for it today as we have Frozen 2 tixx with the kids this morning, but decided to go for an hour, my longest row. It taught me that 20k is going to be a lot harder than I thought. I was pretty spent at the end here, doubt I had another 7k left in me. But maybe I’ll give it a go one day.
MAFish because my HR slipped above 160 a couple times, and above 150 a number of times. I tried to monitor, but it’s hard to stay vigilant about it for an hour. And sometimes when I caught it creeping up it is too late — I slow down but it creeps up 5 or 10bpm before slowing back down.
Anyway, good workout. Only 5 days into the month, but really starting to feel great.
Jan 5 Row: 1 hour row (13,023m in 1:00:27) (MAF-ish); Burned 961 calories, Avg HR 140, max 162
January total: 33,044m
This morning I daydreamed about doing a 20k. I figured it couldn’t be that hard if I could set aside 90 minutes. Couldn’t go for it today as we have Frozen 2 tixx with the kids this morning, but decided to go for an hour, my longest row. It taught me that 20k is going to be a lot harder than I thought. I was pretty spent at the end here, doubt I had another 7k left in me. But maybe I’ll give it a go one day.
MAFish because my HR slipped above 160 a couple times, and above 150 a number of times. I tried to monitor, but it’s hard to stay vigilant about it for an hour. And sometimes when I caught it creeping up it is too late — I slow down but it creeps up 5 or 10bpm before slowing back down.
Anyway, good workout. Only 5 days into the month, but really starting to feel great.
gianmarco
Footballguy
You can set HR alerts on your Garmin watch. It'll buzz when you go over to help you from doing it.
