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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (10 Viewers)

Maybe your butt just isn't as padded as it used to be...

Paging Wet Dream for an evaluation  ;)  
I’ve actually wondered if it’s just that I’m so heavy in the gut region, and all that extra weight is just clamping down on some arteries down my leg, and maybe it’ll improve if I can lose another 20 or 10lbs.  Who knows. 

 
I’ve actually wondered if it’s just that I’m so heavy in the gut region, and all that extra weight is just clamping down on some arteries down my leg, and maybe it’ll improve if I can lose another 20 or 10lbs.  Who knows. 
Nerves, not arteries. But yes, weight can influence your symptoms.

Look up some piriformis stretches. Also see if there's anything you can do about posture/positioning. 

 
@eaganwildcats let's do it.  You go first, I'll do mine the following morning.  Will give me something to aim for.
Jan 16 Row: 5k in 18:38.5. Avg split = 1:51.8. Quite pleased. I was keeping up with the 1:50 pace boat for the first 2K or so but then it left me behind. Had to really go for it at the end to catch the 1:52 pace boat. HR didn't monitor which is dumb but whatever. 

Jan Total: 151,282

 
Nice. That’s a crazy good time. Ok I may do mine tomorrow or over the weekend.  I’ll be lucky to stick to a 2 minute pace.  But a guy can try. 

 
Under 2 minutes per 500? For 20 minutes?  I'm pretty sure that's not something I'm going to be able to do at any point in my life.  

 
Under 2 minutes per 500? For 20 minutes?  I'm pretty sure that's not something I'm going to be able to do at any point in my life.  
This.  I bet I could maybe do it for 500m or 1000m. Not 5k. 

 
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And @eaganwildcats, I know you put a sad reaction, but the reality is you deserve some serious props. You might be the one that finally cracked R@Otis and got him into something to turn his life around that he can sustain.  The competition you guys have going on is awesome and you look to have some serious ability.

So congrats.

 
gianmarco said:
Nerves, not arteries. But yes, weight can influence your symptoms.

Look up some piriformis stretches. Also see if there's anything you can do about posture/positioning. 
Yup

bostonfred said:
https://youtu.be/eKp2f5-jRbI

If you have a hypervolt or theragun that might help too. I use my hypervolt on the hip/butt while doing that stretch, on the highest power setting. Seriously a game changer for me - a few minutes here or there and it has helped everything from carpal tunnel to hip and hamstring pain..
Just do this for a while and see what you think.  

 
And @eaganwildcats, I know you put a sad reaction, but the reality is you deserve some serious props. You might be the one that finally cracked R@Otis and got him into something to turn his life around that he can sustain.  The competition you guys have going on is awesome and you look to have some serious ability.

So congrats.
I’m just laying the groundwork for a wedding invite. Playing the long game. 

 
E-Z Glider said:
What's good? I may order some more stuff.

:lmao:  We had a bag of those fake meat crumbles in the cart and ended up putting them back. Glad we did. I've been using chicken breasts braised in chicken stock and taco seasonings for my tacos. 
Smart man regarding the tacos.

In WW, on the salty side I give big :thumbup:  to the mac & cheese potato sticks and the white cheddar popcorn, and :thumbdown:  to the BBQ potato crisps, which were too sweet for me.  The sea salt crisps are OK, and I see they now have faux nacho cheese Doritos that I'm itching to try.  On the sweet side, my favorite are the chocolate caramel bars, chocolate peanut butter pie bars, and the iced cinnamon puffs (the chocolate puffs are good, too, but I really love cinnamon in general).  Did not like the lemon cookie bars (too dry) or the coconut almond bars (too meh), and thought the S'mores bars were OK but not as good as the rest.

 
And @eaganwildcats, I know you put a sad reaction, but the reality is you deserve some serious props. You might be the one that finally cracked R@Otis and got him into something to turn his life around that he can sustain.  The competition you guys have going on is awesome and you look to have some serious ability.

So congrats.
Was thinking the same thing.  For years, you guys and gals have been writing essays trying to persuade Otis to change his ways and this guy comes out of nowhere and nonchalantly cracks the code.

 
Rowtis Stats

Jan 17 Row: 5k (20:32; avg. HR 141; 332 cals)

January total: 121,994m
 

Well not terrible. As expected, no way I’m approaching @eaganwildcats on this, but I did come pretty close to a 20 min 5k. Average pace was around 2:03. There were periods I was sustained under 2 minute pace (the first 1k and, proud to say, the last 1k) but just couldn’t sustain it.  That’ll be my next goal, a 5k at sub 2:00 pace. Not that far off. 
 

Just 20 minutes but I’m spent. Good day all. Off to the knee specialist this morning.

 
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Rowtis Stats

Jan 17 Row: 5k (20:32; avg. HR 141; 332 cals)

January total: 121,994m
 

Well not terrible. As expected, no way I’m approaching @eaganwildcats on this, but I did come pretty close to a 20 min 5k. Average pace was around 2:03. There were periods I was sustained under 2 minute pace (the first 1k and, proud to say, the last 1k) but just couldn’t sustain it.  That’ll be my next goal, a 5k at sub 2:00 pace. Not that far off. 
 

Just 20 minutes but I’m spent. Good day all. Off to the knee specialist this morning.
:thumbup:  

 
"Hey gang, I finally cracked the code. All you idiots doing these crazy potato eating, 107 hour fasting diet things are insane. It's silly, but if you drink less, eat a little less, and exercise regularly, you can actually lose weight. No counting necessary. No apps. No problem.

No idea why no one has figured this out yet, but wait until I market this puppy. It'll be called SlimOtis. Plus, if you act now, I'll even throw in my beginner's guide to rowing. Say hello, abs. Long time, no see."

 
I'm gonna miss all those fad diets.

(In fairness, I'm kind of doing IF still.  Not by trying, just because it's how I eat.  FIGHT ON FAD DIETS)

 
I'm gonna miss all those fad diets.

(In fairness, I'm kind of doing IF still.  Not by trying, just because it's how I eat.  FIGHT ON FAD DIETS)
I'm pretty all in on IF. Never ate breakfast so usually eat only between like 2&7 (wider window on weekends). That said, what I eat in there is quite sub-optimal from time to time, but not snacking once the "eating window has closed" has been quite the change. 

 
What are the rowing benchmarks.   Willing to throw hat in here.   
Come on in, the water's fine.

What benchmarks are you looking for?  @eaganwildcats is a beast, Otis is a chubby guy in the middle, about to be eclipsed by BF who is the latest on board.

If you're asking for lengths, 5k and 10k are the most common.  But the 500m distance is the one that's usually used for pacing.  I always recall a 2min 500m being a great target, and eagan has already destroyed that, while I'm sniffing it.

 
Tried 500m at under 2 minutes.  First attempt went 2:04 and I was like nfw. Second attempt was 1:59 and i was ready to give up rowing forever.  There was no third attempt. @eaganwildcats is a fn nut job.  

 
Been lazy with tracking :(
You're not lazy with tracking, you're cheating.  And that's normal.  The reason you're not tracking is that you want to cheat.  And that's normal too. That's bad bell and he's been sabotaging your goals since before you had goals.  

Good bell isn't always going to beat out bad bell so you need to figure out strategies to live together.  

Good bell knows that wanting to eat more than your allowed points is not an excuse to stop tracking. Good bell knows it's better to track your points/ calories and go over your goal than to stop tracking, because tomorrow you will know how far over you went and can decide how to deal with it.  Good bell knows that tracking points honestly might keep you from getting too far off track. 

Bad bell doesn't want you to track points. He thinks that if you don't keep track, he can have whatever he wants. 

Bad bell is lying to you.  What he's really afraid of is that tracking points will mean you stop him from indulging.  So he gives you excuses. You don't need to track every point. You don't have to track points on Friday.  

The trick is to acknowledge that bad bell isn't going away.  You can co exist.  Good bell might be stronger in the morning.  So cut your breakfast way down to zero points.

Bad bell might stay away at lunch unless you're stressed.  Ok. Plan ahead that sometimes you can have extra points at lunch.  And come up with dinner options you actually like that are lower in points to make up for it.  Save those for the day you cheat at lunch.  

I like making dinner my reward. It feels like i work all day so i can get that nice dinner.  But that's just what works for me.  I need to scratch that fat guy itch more often than not so i diet all day and have a "huge"meal at night.  When i grow up I'm probably going to try to give up the fat guy meal, but right now it makes me feel good and that's important for building habits.  

The best way to figure out what works for you is to track honestly even when you go off the rails. Bad bell is trying to stop you.  Don't let him.  Indulge if you want to indulge, but keep tracking.  You're just being honest with yourself. 

 
What are you using to save your top rows like that?  Is that spit out by the C2?
https://log.concept2.com/log

I use the logbook. In the past I’ve used a USB and transferred via a utility you can download on your laptop (though currently it’s just directly connected via the printer cable). Alternatively, you can use the ergdata app and it syncs automatically. All of this stuff works like 70% of the time which is mostly infuriating but it’s nice when it does work. I’m not sure if the strava integration helps here - perhaps.

It is neat though, in addition to keeping track of PRs it tracks your total meters - I’m over a million ever (not that exciting I’ve had the thing for like 4-5 years) and they sent me a free shirt as a reward. 

Jan 17 Row: 10k in 44:43. Just happy to have got it done.

Jan Total: 161,282

@The Narrator do it. 

 
Day 47/100

Overall, still getting after it. I did miss Friday's workout, which brings me to 3 missed days total, but I'm ok with that. I wanted to make sure that I would have time to work out and get some other stuff done before work Friday night, so at about 2am Friday I took a sleeping pill with the intention of waking up around 11am, doing what I needed to do, and then napping before work. Instead, I fell asleep at 0330 and didn't wake up until 1630. I was still foggy until after 8pm. That's the last time I take a whole pill, unless I want to sleep for a full 24 hours.

I'm also no longer keeping track of the money. We booked a family trip to Rome for Spring break, so everything is rolling toward making that a really nice trip.

 
damn, you all are making me want to get a concept 2
It’s been a game changer for me. I also got a little phone holder to pop on top of the screen, and on less intense rows, I just put on our streaming TV service on my phone and pop in wireless headphones and row. It was awesome last week, the hour flew by watching part of an NFL game.  This weekend I’ll probably try the same, and I’ll do a ton of stretching beforehand to see if I can extend the time before my leg falls asleep. 
 

I got my Concept 2 on a total whim while cruising Amazon. So glad I did. 

 
https://log.concept2.com/log

I use the logbook. In the past I’ve used a USB and transferred via a utility you can download on your laptop (though currently it’s just directly connected via the printer cable). Alternatively, you can use the ergdata app and it syncs automatically. All of this stuff works like 70% of the time which is mostly infuriating but it’s nice when it does work. I’m not sure if the strava integration helps here - perhaps.

It is neat though, in addition to keeping track of PRs it tracks your total meters - I’m over a million ever (not that exciting I’ve had the thing for like 4-5 years) and they sent me a free shirt as a reward. 

Jan 17 Row: 10k in 44:43. Just happy to have got it done.

Jan Total: 161,282

@The Narrator do it. 
Thanks @eaganwildcats  I actually had downloaded and have been using ErgData, and signed up for the logbook which auto populates from there. It’s been good stuff. 

 
@krista4 -- so now that you've reached your goal, now what?

Going to set another more aggressive goal?  (Which you'd promptly beat in a week, I can't imagine you really should be losing much more weight).

Change your habits in some way to go to "maintenance mode"?

Still going to do WW?

It must feel incredibly good and rewarding to have made goal.  Congratulations.  Enjoy it.

 
Some folks are killing it in 2020 already.   It's mid-Jan and Oats is still losing weight.   That has to be a record.   K4 reached her goal weight so early in the year that she has nothing left to do but rank Beatles songs again.   It's not like she takes time to eat any longer   

Part of me thinks Oatis is a slick salesman and bought a truckload of Concept 2 rowers and is getting ready to sell them all at a very inflated price.   Even I am thinking about one now and I have never rowed!  He is going to make that summer home a reality this year.  

All BS aside, you two have been great motivation.   I'm down 3 pounds this year and have 6 more to go.  

 
Some folks are killing it in 2020 already.   It's mid-Jan and Oats is still losing weight.   That has to be a record.   K4 reached her goal weight so early in the year that she has nothing left to do but rank Beatles songs again.   It's not like she takes time to eat any longer   

Part of me thinks Oatis is a slick salesman and bought a truckload of Concept 2 rowers and is getting ready to sell them all at a very inflated price.   Even I am thinking about one now and I have never rowed!  He is going to make that summer home a reality this year.  

All BS aside, you two have been great motivation.   I'm down 3 pounds this year and have 6 more to go.  
Gee, I hope you can figure out some way to lose the rest of that nine pounds.

WTF

(The Concept 2 is pretty awesome.  I'm starting to wonder why anyone is out there running when they should be rowing.  Then again, there's the fresh air and sunshine aspect of running that I don't get rowing). 

 
Gee, I hope you can figure out some way to lose the rest of that nine pounds.

WTF

(The Concept 2 is pretty awesome.  I'm starting to wonder why anyone is out there running when they should be rowing.  Then again, there's the fresh air and sunshine aspect of running that I don't get rowing). 
Actually, it's really only the last 5 that are tough.  It's not like I'm trying to lose 9 pounds from 250.   My body (and me) seems really comfortable at 200 pounds and getting to 195 requires just enough diet restriction that troubles me.   I have the exercise down with a combo of weight training and cardio.   

I caught the latest sales pitch!   I need a rower.   

 
For anyone interested in swimming, I bought a Delphin Hydroactive today.

While (imo) swimming is the best cardio activity, swimming laps gets real boring and music is a must. Unfortunately, bluetooth and underwater streaming don't go together, making listening to music while swimming much harder. This device is like a miniature ipod shuffle that I can use my Amazon Music on, download a playlist, and swim (it's a miniature waterproof tablet). As opposed to an MP3 player, I can update the playlists easily with wifi. I'm pretty excited to see if it works as advertised. 

I'll provide a review in a week or two. 
I know you've all bookmarked Outlook for this one... Excellent tech recommendation here, for those that run outdoors you should pay attention too:

Aftershokz Xtrainerz

Amazing bone conduction headphones, they work on vibration so not actually inside your ears, they sit between your temple and the edge of your ear. Sound quality is excellent, but your ears are uncovered, so if you're running outdoors, you can hear your surroundings clearly too. Completely waterproof, feels like it is built well, and very comfortable. I've gone on 5 swims so far on the same charge, it is rated to 8 hours, feels like it should get there. I like using silicone molded ear plugs for swimming and hear music loud and crystal clear underwater, and again, so comfortable and easy to use (1 2 3). 

Here are the cons; if you're attached to your phone, these aren't for you, it isn't bluetooth, strictly an MP3 player (the Delphin I purchased in the OP is sort of like a mini tablet, which I wish somehow this had the capabilities of). You load your music from your computer. My personal music source is Amazon Unlimited, which lets me take music offline, but only through their App, there are obviously no apps for an MP3, so I'm buying about 100 strictly workout songs that I'm loading directly into the unit (can hold 1,200 songs if you own a ton of music already, simple drag and drop operation here). It was about $100 cheaper than the Delphin, so that cost almost evens out for the 100 songs. I've found the interface and setting up folders doesn't work so well. In example, I connected it to a MacPro and erased the 4 songs that came preloaded on it in the folder, but they're still on the MP3, this should've erased those songs, but it hasn't. The files I uploaded can't rewind to the previous song either, I can only fast forward, need to solve that too. 

Anyways, if you own a healthy amount of music and run outdoors, these are prob a good purchase if you can drop your phone for an hour. If you swim, you should 100% buy these - I swim almost an hour a day on these things and my body feels awesome after the pool, easily capable of taking on weight training afterwards. Personally, I found sticking a headphone into my ear underwater highly uncomfortable, but if it doesn't bother you, then the Delphin could work too, while having a better interface to control your music. 

 
Some folks are killing it in 2020 already.   It's mid-Jan and Oats is still losing weight.   That has to be a record.   K4 reached her goal weight so early in the year that she has nothing left to do but rank Beatles songs again.   It's not like she takes time to eat any longer   

Part of me thinks Oatis is a slick salesman and bought a truckload of Concept 2 rowers and is getting ready to sell them all at a very inflated price.   Even I am thinking about one now and I have never rowed!  He is going to make that summer home a reality this year.  

All BS aside, you two have been great motivation.   I'm down 3 pounds this year and have 6 more to go.  
January isn't the BLOtis hurdle. March is. I have confidence Rowtis is ready to conquer what BLOtis (repeatedly) did not though. 

 

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