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23 hours ago, bostonfred said:

Day 28 and I have never felt more alone

f that noise.  stay the course my man!

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23 hours ago, MAC_32 said:

I couldn't imagine being as disciplined as you are this time of year, but that's why I was so focused on getting healthy the last 2 months. Need 7-8+ hours of exercise per week to offset everything I jam into my piehole.

this.  so much of this.  :lmao: 

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25 minutes ago, DA RAIDERS said:

f that noise.  stay the course my man!

Hey thanks for the motivation!  Glad you're still with me!

20 minutes ago, DA RAIDERS said:

this.  so much of this.  :lmao: 

Oh. 

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Wife and I checked into our vacation spot yesterday. In the CO mountains on a river with an outdoor hot tub. 

Won't be tracking food this week. Will try to eat reasonably well but will be :banned:nightly. Hoping the hiking and :pickle: keep the weight relatively in check. 

Keep up the good work. 

Wife and I have already committed to eating well and no booze for a month when we get back. 

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12 minutes ago, Poke_4_Life said:

 

Wife and I have already committed to eating well and no booze for a month when we get back. 

Yeah good luck with this. :coffee:

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1 hour ago, Otis said:

Yeah good luck with this. :coffee:

We already took a month off booze since COVID started. Because it got to be too much, too many nights. 

Got this. 

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On 9/10/2020 at 10:33 PM, bostonfred said:

Hundredpushups.com week 5 day 1...

36 - I wasn't going to do the hard version after failing to hit 40 on my test but felt good enough on my first set to complete the 36, so... check.

40 - well, I did 36 more, then had to pause briefly and finished the 40. Check.

30 - thats a lot of pushups for a rest set, but check

26 - calm before the storm... this should be easy... arms are dead... but check

40 - this is simply not happening... just going to give it my best and try to get twenty-five... hey I got 30 before falling flat on my face. Then got back up and did the last ten. Check. 

Walked on the treadmill for 40 minutes but skipped the run and gave my knee a rest.  

Finished the day under calories. No alcohol.  

Looks like I'm flying solo for the next 46 days but I've got this.  

Week 5 day 1 redux

36 done, could have done more. Much better than last time. Taking 90 seconds 

40 paused briefly after 35, almost the same as last time, but finished, and with less reat than last time. Taking two minutes here though. 

30 done but barely

26 done but I will need extra rest again 

40 same as last time. The last couple were gnarly too.

almost identical to last time on every set... except I am pretty sure I did it in less time than the first go round.  So... i guess I'm progressing, but still very difficult to break through these heavy sets. I don't know if I should move on to week 5 day 2, repeat day 1, or go back to week 4 and really try to build my base. 

Either way, i finished my day strong, ran a 5k and did a little walking, ate about a pound of chicken breast and had my veggies to finish under calories even after that huge plate of eggs benedict this morning. 

29 down, 36 to go. 

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4 hours ago, Poke_4_Life said:

Wife and I checked into our vacation spot yesterday. In the CO mountains on a river with an outdoor hot tub. 

Won't be tracking food this week. Will try to eat reasonably well but will be :banned:nightly. Hoping the hiking and :pickle: keep the weight relatively in check. 

Keep up the good work. 

Wife and I have already committed to eating well and no booze for a month when we get back. 

Have fun!

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Ate pretty healthy today.  Did a 30 minute Les Mill body pump workout (that's about my max with body pump).  I bought my wife a Keiser exercise bike for her bday (not fancy like the Peloton but a great quality bike) and assembled it this morning.  I'll be adding that to my exercise routine.  Week 4 pushup challenge starts tomorrow.

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Did my initial test- 36. I could have done a few more but not sure I want to get sweaty at 8 AM at work. Plus this might make it easier to get off to a good start. 

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After a fun morning at the orchard, managed to stop the bleeding a bit Saturday night and went with yogurt & granola as well as some popcorn. 15Kish steps yesterday + 5k row + 40 pushups (thought I would be able to do more, but form started suffering so I shut it down). Onward.

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Any suggestions for a starting from (almost) zero workout schedule?  I've been primarily a running / biking as exercise kind of guy in the past.  Had a bum shoulder that sidelined me from weights for a year or so but after surgery and PT its almost back to normal.  The problem is I'm pretty weak overall from lack of weight training.

I'm back in the office five days a week and was thinking of joining a cheap gym and hitting it early on the way to work M-F.  I'm thinking of just trying something cheap with basic weights I can use like the local Planet Fitness.  I think the main benefit of that would be to schedule a set amount of time to workout and getting me out of the house to do it instead of always getting distracted at home.  Any suggestions for a website or something for guidance in creating a 5 day weight training plan?  NoXplod?  TIA  :flex: 

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7 minutes ago, Lehigh98 said:

Any suggestions for a starting from (almost) zero workout schedule?  I've been primarily a running / biking as exercise kind of guy in the past.  Had a bum shoulder that sidelined me from weights for a year or so but after surgery and PT its almost back to normal.  The problem is I'm pretty weak overall from lack of weight training.

I'm back in the office five days a week and was thinking of joining a cheap gym and hitting it early on the way to work M-F.  I'm thinking of just trying something cheap with basic weights I can use like the local Planet Fitness.  I think the main benefit of that would be to schedule a set amount of time to workout and getting me out of the house to do it instead of always getting distracted at home.  Any suggestions for a website or something for guidance in creating a 5 day weight training plan?  NoXplod?  TIA  :flex: 

I'm not going to answer your question - instead...

...whatever weights you think are appropriate, do less. However many sets you think you should do, do less. However many reps you think you should do, do less. The first workout is not the hardest. The second and third ones are. You're going to be sore. Very sore. If something doesn't feel right then you may not be doing it correctly - or properly accounting for various ailments you may have (i.e. the shoulder). Be proactive about addressing any issue. And regardless, prepare for regression week 2. Then if in week 4 you do more than you did week 1 then you did well. Reward yourself with a step back week because weeks 6-8 are harder than weeks 1-3. If you get through week 8 satisfied and healthy then congrats - you did better than 80% of others trying to do the same.

So the answer to your question? Whatever you think is sustainable long term. Just make sure your back, ###, and thighs are the primary muscle groups you're focused on. ^^^That is the approach though. Be extra conservative early on. 

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18 hours ago, bostonfred said:

Day 29 and I've never felt more alone 

I am still hanging with you @bostonfred I just haven’t been posting. I am still walking and eating right (I  did stray a little this weekend though due to soccer travel and a lot of windshield time). 
 

I weighed in at 233 (up from last week, but I had a salty meal yesterday so I am not too concerned).

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46 minutes ago, Lehigh98 said:

Any suggestions for a starting from (almost) zero workout schedule?  I've been primarily a running / biking as exercise kind of guy in the past.  Had a bum shoulder that sidelined me from weights for a year or so but after surgery and PT its almost back to normal.  The problem is I'm pretty weak overall from lack of weight training.

I'm back in the office five days a week and was thinking of joining a cheap gym and hitting it early on the way to work M-F.  I'm thinking of just trying something cheap with basic weights I can use like the local Planet Fitness.  I think the main benefit of that would be to schedule a set amount of time to workout and getting me out of the house to do it instead of always getting distracted at home.  Any suggestions for a website or something for guidance in creating a 5 day weight training plan?  NoXplod?  TIA  :flex: 

30 days of yoga with adriene - this is the "beginners" level series that a.most everyone in this thread has done https://yogawithadriene.com/30-days-yoga-welcome/

It's been great for me for building full body strength and I know a lot of people say the same. 20 to 30 minutes a day, so it's something you can do between meetings and you don't get all sweaty most days (although there are definitely challenging days that can get you sweating). Its also great for clearing your mind when you're stressed.

She's an excellent teacher and doesn't get all weird about chanting and saying namaste although she is a bit of a weirdo it's like a weird friend so it's endearing. I would recommend it but I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice. Consult your doctor before beginning this or any exercise program.

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21 minutes ago, The Flying Turtle said:

I am still hanging with you @bostonfred I just haven’t been posting. I am still walking and eating right (I  did stray a little this weekend though due to soccer travel and a lot of windshield time). 
 

I weighed in at 233 (up from last week, but I had a salty meal yesterday so I am not too concerned).

220 before Thanksgiving still very much within reach. 

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Ate breakfast and then had an unplanned 880 calories of chicken and vegetable lo mein for lunch. Oops.  Borrowed enough calories to have a slice of pizza with my kid so I am committed to the treadmill tonight. If i get a good run in I'll have a salad... :unsure:

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We're being pummeled by bands of tropical rain, and I'm being pummeled by allergies. There will be no exercise today, and likely not tomorrow. But I will eat like I should. After I take a nap, before the game.

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Week 4, Day 1 of pushup challenge - 21, 25, 21, 21, 32.  This was the first day where mentally (and physically) I wasn't sure if I would be able to finish that last set.  Perhaps my arms were sore from yesterday doing body pump.  I don't know but I really struggled today.  They said to take 60 second breaks between sets but I was closer to 90.  On the last set of 32, I stopped a couple times (although I did somehow stay in plank position) but pushed through it.

Now I'm going to go on my new exercise bike while watching football until my body tells me to stop.  Ate pretty well today (and no booze) so I'm going to earn that bowl of apple cobbler with vanilla ice cream. Yummy.

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Put on Monday night football and did a couple 9 minute miles on the treadmill which isn't fast, but faster than my normal 10 minute pace, and walked 30 minutes between warm up and cool down to end up plus 395 calories. Knee felt great, decided not to push it further. 330 calorie packaged salad put my macros close to where I want them and I don't even feel guilty for splurging on lunch with 65 calories to spare.

29 days down, 36 to go. 

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3 hours ago, kevzilla said:

We're being pummeled by bands of tropical rain, and I'm being pummeled by allergies. There will be no exercise today, and likely not tomorrow. But I will eat like I should. After I take a nap, before the game.

Allergies suck. Rest days probably good for you. Eating right when you feel like #### is quality stuff. Keep it up GB. 

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Got up early to row this morning. 3yo came down and interrupted me two minutes in. Had to bring her up and pull together breakfast and feed the dog, which then became getting the other kids fed and ready and out. Still made time to go back down and row another 30mins even thought it caused me to start my day a little late. Well worth it. Actually a little sore today which is weird; maybe so many rowing days in a row. 
 

Ate super healthy too. Very low cal.  And had less than a full glass of white wine in the evening. 
 

Only failure today was I didn’t do my push-ups. Didn’t even dawn on me till I was heading to bed. I’ll pick back up with that tomorrow. 

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5 minutes ago, Otis said:

Got up early to row this morning. 3yo came down and interrupted me two minutes in. Had to bring her up and pull together breakfast and feed the dog, which then became getting the other kids fed and ready and out. Still made time to go back down and row another 30mins even thought it caused me to start my day a little late. Well worth it. Actually a little sore today which is weird; maybe so many rowing days in a row. 
 

Ate super healthy too. Very low cal.  And had less than a full glass of white wine in the evening. 
 

Only failure today was I didn’t do my push-ups. Didn’t even dawn on me till I was heading to bed. I’ll pick back up with that tomorrow. 

I'd be interested to see your results here if you're willing to share.  We started together 29 days ago, you lasted two weeks exercising, eating well and without alcohol, then did the next two weeks with some alcohol but still exercising and while you're not tracking calories, you say you're eating well for the most part. I'm tracking calories strictly but not necessarily eating perfectly, and I'm definitely losing weight at a good pace, but this isn't something I would want to sustain long term.  Have you been able to lose weight doing what you're doing?

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32 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

I'd be interested to see your results here if you're willing to share.  We started together 29 days ago, you lasted two weeks exercising, eating well and without alcohol, then did the next two weeks with some alcohol but still exercising and while you're not tracking calories, you say you're eating well for the most part. I'm tracking calories strictly but not necessarily eating perfectly, and I'm definitely losing weight at a good pace, but this isn't something I would want to sustain long term.  Have you been able to lose weight doing what you're doing?

He has to be showing some results just by the fact that he's living a healthier lifestyle.  I would be very surprised if he isn't seeing some results.  Hell I've lost around 12 lbs since early March and I'm not nearly as disciplined as you (and I don't really even want/need to lose weight).  

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7 hours ago, bostonfred said:

I'd be interested to see your results here if you're willing to share.  We started together 29 days ago, you lasted two weeks exercising, eating well and without alcohol, then did the next two weeks with some alcohol but still exercising and while you're not tracking calories, you say you're eating well for the most part. I'm tracking calories strictly but not necessarily eating perfectly, and I'm definitely losing weight at a good pace, but this isn't something I would want to sustain long term.  Have you been able to lose weight doing what you're doing?

I think the times I went off the rails with alcohol and poor eating stalled my progress. I lost about 7lbs then kept hitting the wall. Now that I’m back on track I’ll weigh in this week and see what’s what. 

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2 hours ago, Otis said:

I think the times I went off the rails with alcohol and poor eating stalled my progress. I lost about 7lbs then kept hitting the wall. Now that I’m back on track I’ll weigh in this week and see what’s what. 

Thanks GB. I'm partly asking for my benefit too. My plan for maintenance looks a lot like what you're doing right now - exercising, trying to eat a little better, not tracking calories and drinking fairly regularly.  If that's helping you to lose and not just tread water then expect more questions. 

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55 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

Thanks GB. I'm partly asking for my benefit too. My plan for maintenance looks a lot like what you're doing right now - exercising, trying to eat a little better, not tracking calories and drinking fairly regularly.  If that's helping you to lose and not just tread water then expect more questions. 

I know you posed the question to Otis but what you described is exactly what I’ve been doing and I lost a fair amount of weight and feel like I’m in better shape than ever.

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55 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

Thanks GB. I'm partly asking for my benefit too. My plan for maintenance looks a lot like what you're doing right now - exercising, trying to eat a little better, not tracking calories and drinking fairly regularly.  If that's helping you to lose and not just tread water then expect more questions. 

My hunch is that part is treading water—not losing but not gaining. Which is important if the ultimate goal will be long term maintenance. But I still need to knock off 20lbs before I settle in at anything. 

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1 hour ago, fred_1_15301 said:

I know you posed the question to Otis but what you described is exactly what I’ve been doing and I lost a fair amount of weight and feel like I’m in better shape than ever.

Although if you want a 6 pack, this probably isn’t the way to go.

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1 hour ago, fred_1_15301 said:

I know you posed the question to Otis but what you described is exactly what I’ve been doing and I lost a fair amount of weight and feel like I’m in better shape than ever.

Our version of eating normally was a little too much, or we wouldn't have gotten fat. You've stayed slimmer because your version was about right. 

It took me a long time to figure out what "eating normally" is supposed to look like, and I put on a lot of weight as I got older. Otis has put on a little too. Now he says he's eating "super healthy" and "very low cal".  His version of eating healthy isn't where yours is, and neither is mine probably. 

I've come to the conclusion that i can lose weight by eyeballing it, and i can lose weight while having a drink or two here or there, and i can maintain my weight doing both, but I lack the willpower to drink and not spoil my diet with one too many, or a snack i shouldn't have had. But if Otis is able to do it, I'm intrigued. 

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i was out camping last weekend as i see the end of the summer coming quickly here one morning it was 37 degrees in my tent thats a little rough anyhow i did not have signal so i lost my streak on myfitness pal so now i am on day 2 of a new streak i did not drink at all on my camping trip and did catch a bunch of fish and i walked every morning and then hiked and fished all day every day so i am doing well and keepin on keepin on so far this week i have walked about 20 miles and have come in well under my calorie goal each day take that to the bank bromigos 

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12 minutes ago, SWC said:

i was out camping last weekend as i see the end of the summer coming quickly here one morning it was 37 degrees in my tent thats a little rough anyhow i did not have signal so i lost my streak on myfitness pal so now i am on day 2 of a new streak i did not drink at all on my camping trip and did catch a bunch of fish and i walked every morning and then hiked and fished all day every day so i am doing well and keepin on keepin on so far this week i have walked about 20 miles and have come in well under my calorie goal each day take that to the bank bromigos 

If you go to your diary for the day it says today at the top and there's an arrow on the left to go back to yesterday, you can go back and enter your food for the day you missed (or just add a coffee, it doesn't matter at this point) and your streak will be back. You've earned it. 

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On 9/21/2020 at 9:24 AM, Lehigh98 said:

Any suggestions for a starting from (almost) zero workout schedule?  I've been primarily a running / biking as exercise kind of guy in the past.  Had a bum shoulder that sidelined me from weights for a year or so but after surgery and PT its almost back to normal.  The problem is I'm pretty weak overall from lack of weight training.

I'm back in the office five days a week and was thinking of joining a cheap gym and hitting it early on the way to work M-F.  I'm thinking of just trying something cheap with basic weights I can use like the local Planet Fitness.  I think the main benefit of that would be to schedule a set amount of time to workout and getting me out of the house to do it instead of always getting distracted at home.  Any suggestions for a website or something for guidance in creating a 5 day weight training plan?  NoXplod?  TIA  :flex: 

In general, you would be better served to start with something like this

https://thefitness.wiki/routines/5-3-1-for-beginners/

I do a 6 day spread more or less of this 5 day split.  

http://simplyshredded.com/mega-feature-layne-norton-training-series-full-powerhypertrophy-routine-updated-2011.html

Running anything 5 days in a row is going to be a challenge.  

The standard advice would be to start with full body every day, but that's a huge issue as a beginner as you simply start sore and stay sore.  The other advice might be to go Upper-Lower-Arms/Abs/Calves-Upper-Lower.   The 4 day norton routine can be stretched to 5 days like that, similar to how I took the 5 day out to 6.

Planet fitness is not known as a lifting gym, it's a lot of machines and they are sensitive to lifters and will try to ban them for minor things like racking weights too loudly.

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3 hours ago, bostonfred said:

Thanks GB. I'm partly asking for my benefit too. My plan for maintenance looks a lot like what you're doing right now - exercising, trying to eat a little better, not tracking calories and drinking fairly regularly.  If that's helping you to lose and not just tread water then expect more questions. 

Once to maintenance sustain (or increase) exercise then pick and choose your spots to veer from good eating habits - including drinking. Everyone's definition of fairly regularly is going to be a little different, but my spider sense is tingling on this one. 

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50 minutes ago, bostonfred said:
1 hour ago, SWC said:

i was out camping last weekend as i see the end of the summer coming quickly here one morning it was 37 degrees in my tent thats a little rough anyhow i did not have signal so i lost my streak on myfitness pal so now i am on day 2 of a new streak i did not drink at all on my camping trip and did catch a bunch of fish and i walked every morning and then hiked and fished all day every day so i am doing well and keepin on keepin on so far this week i have walked about 20 miles and have come in well under my calorie goal each day take that to the bank bromigos 

If you go to your diary for the day it says today at the top and there's an arrow on the left to go back to yesterday, you can go back and enter your food for the day you missed (or just add a coffee, it doesn't matter at this point) and your streak will be back. You've earned it. 

i did and im still at a 2 day streak it is ok it has remotivated me so im just going with it and kicking butt take that to the bank brohan 

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Rowed this morning.  Push-ups mid day.  Total failure mid week 3, couldn’t reach the allocated amounts, but got as close as I could.  I’ll eventually move down to the first column I think, or otherwise just repeat week 3 until I get it at the center column?  Whatever.  I’ll do push-ups.  

Kachava shakes and other healthy crap to eat.  I’m a regular fitness blogger over here.  

 

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46 minutes ago, Otis said:

 I’m a regular fitness blogger over here.

You'll have to produce an "after" photo at some point :lmao:

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i like this thread keep on keepin on you bromigos take that to the bank 

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@bostonfred my maintenance is only controlled by exercise.  if i don't exercise, everything goes to ####.  i eat pretty well.  nearly everything from scratch.  very little out of a box or the freezer.  i drink too much.  if i aced the drinking, i'd probably go into the 170's.   for me, exercise is the key.  i exercise, so i'm healthier and don't gain weight.  with the bonus of being able to eat and drink, pretty much what i want.  :shrug: 

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On 9/20/2020 at 6:07 PM, bostonfred said:

Week 5 day 1 redux

36 done, could have done more. Much better than last time. Taking 90 seconds 

40 paused briefly after 35, almost the same as last time, but finished, and with less reat than last time. Taking two minutes here though. 

30 done but barely

26 done but I will need extra rest again 

40 same as last time. The last couple were gnarly too.

 

this was HARD

60 second break between all but the last set.  90 for that one 

first 3 were pretty easy  feeling the burn at the end of 30.

26 burned the whole way.

last 20 of the last 40, sucked.  wicked burn

keep em coming fred!

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6 minutes ago, DA RAIDERS said:

this was HARD

60 second break between all but the last set.  90 for that one 

first 3 were pretty easy  feeling the burn at the end of 30.

26 burned the whole way.

last 20 of the last 40, sucked.  wicked burn

keep em coming fred!

I hate to say it but I think I'm going backwards not forwards. I think I went ahead too quickly. 

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4 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

I hate to say it but I think I'm going backwards not forwards. I think I went ahead too quickly. 

i like your approach.  take 5 off each and do that a couple times.  then do this one again.

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My nose had ceased its impression of the Bellagio Fountains this morning, so I did the yoga before work. At lunch, the radar indicated I had a good window, so I got the walk in as well. Only thing I've really sacrificed is a shower. Overrated.

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4 hours ago, bostonfred said:

I hate to say it but I think I'm going backwards not forwards. I think I went ahead too quickly. 

I'm not familiar with this program, but your body is probably just asking for a stepback week. 

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1 hour ago, MAC_32 said:

I'm not familiar with this program, but your body is probably just asking for a stepback week. 

Thanks. That's definitely possible.  I've been pushing hard with this and running while dieting, and I'm getting a good amount of protein but not 1g per lb body weight so I might be handcuffing myself there too. But I think the bigger issue is I tried to push through some tough sets and moved up without having really mastered them. I'm taking two days off, starting a level down from the sets that I struggled with, and redoing them humbly. 

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