whole-show
Footballguy
Juju has been cleared cleared from the concussion protocol but remains on the injury report with a knee injury per Burt Lauten
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, NE (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Faust
- Start date
That one guy
Footballguy
That doesn’t look like a car going 104mph at all
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Yeah, looks like he set the speedometer to KPH. If he was going 104 the other cars are going over 90 too, and I doubt that... And looking at the stuff on the side of the road he is not going fast. Hes going closer to 60 than 95, which is consistent with KPH.
I'm more concerned that he's taking fricken videos while driving. That's as much or more dangerous than going 104 a capable vehicle, assuming he was filming it.
I'm more concerned that he's taking fricken videos while driving. That's as much or more dangerous than going 104 a capable vehicle, assuming he was filming it.
Last edited by a moderator:
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Week to week isn't good, usually that means Out.
whole-show
Footballguy
Officially out this week per Adam Caplan
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, this headline from Roto sounds like he was guilty of something. He's there as an endorsement. Did he violate the CBA or the competitive nature of the games or something? This is a weird non-story designed to get people up in arms about his health and situation this year.
JuJu has already said he gets paid for social media appearances. He grew up living in a garage with many siblings. I don't see the point at taking a shot at him trying to earn extra income in a career so often shortened.
Last edited by a moderator:
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
very thin at WR now and was actually considering starting him...
DJackson10
Footballguy
We get up in arms over this yet I wish people used that energy on guys like Big Ben, Kareem Hunt, AB and others who seem to get a pass but people. JuJu is also one of the players you shouldn't put in a category with those types of players and get up in arms about. Always seems like a very good guy and very mature for his age. He's still one of the youngest players in the league too
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I'm benching him for John Ross but I'm probably going to regret it...
![[scooter]](/data/avatars/m/22/22287.jpg?1659477690){kind=avatar}
[scooter]
Footballguy
I'm doing the same. I took JuJu as my #1 WR, then ended up cutting him midseason, then ended up re-acquiring him a couple weeks ago.
But........I'd rather put my faith in Andy Dalton and the Miami defense.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
@EdBouchette
on Juju: "Based on last season, what he thinks he’s worth and what they want to pay him may be far apart. My prediction... he will become a free agent in 2021 as others at that position before him did, such as Mike Wallace and Emmanuel Sanders."
----------------------
I don't think he can 'easily' return to his 2018 form because AB is gone and Big Ben is nearing the end and Juju never faced the sort of coverage he saw last year without Antonio Brown taking double coverage. Add James Conner was in top form in 2018 so I don't see him 'easily' returning to 2018 form. I doubt he was as good as his stats from two years ago when he saw soft coverage and the spotlight wasn't focused-in on him.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
In a dynasty league where I am loaded, and needed to pair down total picks/players, I traded Hollywood Brown and Diontae Johnson for JuJu a month or two ago. I'm not sure I'd make that same trade today. I guess we won't know until this year if his huge drop off was because AB wasn't on the other side or due to not having Ben there (or maybe a combination of both) To me he's definitely a wild card moving forward. And if the Steelers do let him walk, makes Diontae even more valuable in a dynasty IMO.
I don't really agree with Bouchette and the examples he used for Steelers letting WR's walk. It's true he might price himself out but the examples are just poor. Sanders was never that productive in Pittsburgh and they matched NE's offer that would have netted them a third to keep him and extra year, for Sanders is an odd case of what would turn out to be really good WR who never was that good with a good/great QB. Holmes they got rid off because off the field issues, was staring at a suspension for marijuana and he was not someone they felt they could rely on. Plaxico's was coming off two subpar seasons. They offered big money to Mike Wallace but once he declined they gave it to AB and their cost structure was not designed to pay two WR' big money. They then continued to redo AB's contract a few times so it's not like they won't pay a WR.
As an almost 40 year fan of this team I've endured some painful FA losses but generally speaking they've been more right then wrong to not pay some of the players lost what they wanted. I'm not so sure they are in such a hurry to let what would be a 25 year old JuJu walk out the door.
Now saying all that sometimes the grass is greener on the other side, sometimes it's not. But getting out of Pittsburgh and possibly getting paired with a QB on the younger side of things might be a huge win for JuJu.
And I say that because when you break down JuJu's full and almost full games without AB it's not that bad until after week one this year when he lost Ben and was later banged up. Again it's not many games and I've posted something similar but here are his full games with Big Ben and no AB:
Week 16 in 2017: 6/75/1
Week 17 in 2018: 5/37/1
Week 1 in 2019: 6/78/0
Partial game.
Week 15 in 2017. AB exited game at beginning of second quarter. From just the time AB went out, so about 3/4th of a game JuJu went 6/114 for the game but in the 3 quarters without AB went 4/84/0.
To recap a small sample size of basically almost a quarter of a season, 3.75 games with Big Ben as his QB but no AB JuJu went:
21/274/2 and that small sample size prorates to17.6 fantasy points a game and I understand that's to few games to draw a huge guarantee he's fine without AB but it's encouraging and especially the part that he was active with at least 5 catches every game, not a guy who is going to skunk you.
And oh he also dropped a 9/143/1 game against the Browns in week 17 with Landry Jones as his QB when AB was out.
I've never been that worried how JuJu will fare without AB and I got mad respect for how great AB as many can testify by my posts in the AB and some other threads. But I am worried about he and the other Steelers WR's will fare if they really think Rudolph is an NFL quality starting QB.
As an almost 40 year fan of this team I've endured some painful FA losses but generally speaking they've been more right then wrong to not pay some of the players lost what they wanted. I'm not so sure they are in such a hurry to let what would be a 25 year old JuJu walk out the door.
Now saying all that sometimes the grass is greener on the other side, sometimes it's not. But getting out of Pittsburgh and possibly getting paired with a QB on the younger side of things might be a huge win for JuJu.
And I say that because when you break down JuJu's full and almost full games without AB it's not that bad until after week one this year when he lost Ben and was later banged up. Again it's not many games and I've posted something similar but here are his full games with Big Ben and no AB:
Week 16 in 2017: 6/75/1
Week 17 in 2018: 5/37/1
Week 1 in 2019: 6/78/0
Partial game.
Week 15 in 2017. AB exited game at beginning of second quarter. From just the time AB went out, so about 3/4th of a game JuJu went 6/114 for the game but in the 3 quarters without AB went 4/84/0.
To recap a small sample size of basically almost a quarter of a season, 3.75 games with Big Ben as his QB but no AB JuJu went:
21/274/2 and that small sample size prorates to17.6 fantasy points a game and I understand that's to few games to draw a huge guarantee he's fine without AB but it's encouraging and especially the part that he was active with at least 5 catches every game, not a guy who is going to skunk you.
And oh he also dropped a 9/143/1 game against the Browns in week 17 with Landry Jones as his QB when AB was out.
I've never been that worried how JuJu will fare without AB and I got mad respect for how great AB as many can testify by my posts in the AB and some other threads. But I am worried about he and the other Steelers WR's will fare if they really think Rudolph is an NFL quality starting QB.
Grid71
Footballguy
JuJu is dominant as a #2. Still on the fence for becoming a force as the #1 guy. JuJu wants his shot to prove he can be the man. This is his chance to cash in on 2nd contract and Ben will do his part.
My take from the FO standpoint: JuJu is an AWESOME teammate. Great for the locker room and already proven to be a huge asset on the field. Those other jokers ran themselves out of town (Burress, Holmes, AB, Wallace) JuJu will be a priority to sign but within reason. Another team would have to severely overpay to lure JuJu away or other priorities on D/OL eat up the precious cap space (ala Sanders couldn't afford to keep him and AB at the time).
My take from the FO standpoint: JuJu is an AWESOME teammate. Great for the locker room and already proven to be a huge asset on the field. Those other jokers ran themselves out of town (Burress, Holmes, AB, Wallace) JuJu will be a priority to sign but within reason. Another team would have to severely overpay to lure JuJu away or other priorities on D/OL eat up the precious cap space (ala Sanders couldn't afford to keep him and AB at the time).
rockaction
Footballguy
Devil_Dog
Footballguy
Dionte Johnson, really? What is your reasoning? Not sure what will happen with JuJu but if he stays he's clearly the #1, however, if he leaves I don't think Johnson will be the #1, maybe one could argue Washington as he was drafted higher, went to be bigger program and had better production than Johnson. But if they do let JuJu go my guess is they will fill the void via the draft.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I agree with Milkman. Johnson is for real. Best route runner on the team (coaches have said so) and just so smooth. He's really flying under the radar this year because the QBs were so pitiful last year once Big Ben went down. In fact I believe (without any proof) that the reason they might let JuJu walk is because they know what they have in Diontae.
IMO Diontae is the #1 outside WR on the team and JuJu is the #1 slot WR, both pretty versatile and if you flipped those roles they would IMO be the second best on the team in those roles. I tend to think JuJu will work out of the slot a lot more this year, Diontae will draw more difficult coverage and that will lead to JuJu having more targets then Diontae. So depending on what criteria you use I would project either of these two to be their #1 WR. Washington does not belong in this conversation.
I own JuJu in some leagues and I view Diontae potentially being the #1WR as great news for JuJu. Diontae does not project to draw the attention that AB got but JuJu still might not have to answer the question of if he can perform nearly the same as a true #1.
Devil_Dog
Footballguy
I guess I'll need to take a second look at Diontae as I wasn't impressed with him last year (albeit on a very small sample size). But comparisons to AB seems like a big stretch...if he was that good why did he fall to the 3rd round? I think I counted 8 or 9 WRs who were drafted before him...clearly the NFL get it wrong sometimes, AB is proof of that (6th round I recall) but they get the majority right.
As I said, I'll give Johnson another look this year and keep an open mind with so many of you supporting the #1 WR declaration.
-DD
As I said, I'll give Johnson another look this year and keep an open mind with so many of you supporting the #1 WR declaration.
-DD
Milkman
Footballguy
He was the Steelers #1 WR in last years draft. They absolutely loved him. He reminds me a lot of AB.
