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Priest Behaeded during Church attack in France (1 Viewer)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Awful. God bless Rouen.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
absolutely, bless all of France ... it's such a mess
no ID on attackers or motive yet
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dfsguy
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The article points out that the French anti-terrorism unit is handling the investigation so that answers that.
The idea of a church being attacked is harrowing, we ought to all be thankful far more people were not hurt.
The idea of a church being attacked is harrowing, we ought to all be thankful far more people were not hurt.
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dfsguy
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Currently crowdsourcing a new listicle: "11 Reasons Muslims Beheading That Priest Doesn't Actually Corroborate Trump's Dark View Of Europe."
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
T & P, as now is de rigeuer with this ####. If this was a beheading...
Damn.
Damn.
HellToupee
Footballguy
They are only there to behead priests that French citizens can't be bothered to do.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ok we have to do better - this link from Daily Mail and the other from BBC say the priest's throat was cut. Not the same thing, horrific and grisly and evil beyond words but let's be accurate here.
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HellToupee
Footballguy
The clergyman, named as Jacques Hamel, is believed to have been beheaded during the attack while another hostage, believed to be a nun, is fighting for life in hospital.
The two attackers were 'neutralised' by marksmen as they emerged from the building, which is now being searched for explosives. French president Francois Hollande said France is 'at war' with ISIS while the terror group has claimed responsibility for the killing.
There were reports the attackers shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as they ran out of the church while at least one of the men was dressed in Islamic clothing
Neutralised
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
France might need to resurrect the Committee for Public Safety and see if they can send Robespierre out to round up these hooligans.
You make it to 86 or 92 or however old this poor priest was and you think you are going to go out peacefully and your way but then you end up smashed to the ground and helpless while some maggot is pulling your head back to lop off...I'm sorry for the cruel image everyone but it upsets me that these reports are coming in at what seems a much faster pace lately in the Western Countries.
Last night/2 nights ago there was a nightclub shooting in Ft Myers, FL but it was only 2 teenagers who ended up dead...look what I just wrote...that's where we are at now. What would have been a pretty big story a couple years ago doesn't even hardly make news or is the 5th/6th story down the page after so many heinous acts.
-Paris attacks-hundred killed
-Nice and 84+ killed by a single runaway truck.
-Orlando night club attack-50 dead
-Multiple cop shootings in places like Dallas and Baton Rouge
-Turkey Coup and the fallout
-Iraq has car bombs and worse almost weekly and nobody cares here but people are suffering hard over there.
You make it to 86 or 92 or however old this poor priest was and you think you are going to go out peacefully and your way but then you end up smashed to the ground and helpless while some maggot is pulling your head back to lop off...I'm sorry for the cruel image everyone but it upsets me that these reports are coming in at what seems a much faster pace lately in the Western Countries.
Last night/2 nights ago there was a nightclub shooting in Ft Myers, FL but it was only 2 teenagers who ended up dead...look what I just wrote...that's where we are at now. What would have been a pretty big story a couple years ago doesn't even hardly make news or is the 5th/6th story down the page after so many heinous acts.
-Paris attacks-hundred killed
-Nice and 84+ killed by a single runaway truck.
-Orlando night club attack-50 dead
-Multiple cop shootings in places like Dallas and Baton Rouge
-Turkey Coup and the fallout
-Iraq has car bombs and worse almost weekly and nobody cares here but people are suffering hard over there.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Yep, you're right, didn't see it on the phone, thanks.The clergyman, named as Jacques Hamel, is believed to have been beheaded during the attack while another hostage, believed to be a nun, is fighting for life in hospital.
The two attackers were 'neutralised' by marksmen as they emerged from the building, which is now being searched for explosives. French president Francois Hollande said France is 'at war' with ISIS while the terror group has claimed responsibility for the killing.
There were reports the attackers shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as they ran out of the church while at least one of the men was dressed in Islamic clothing
Neutralised
Yeah the euphemisms.
- eta - BBC makes no mention of this. Ugh.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm not saying this wasn't ISIS, but it seems like everyone who is doing anything FINAL shall we say, seems to want to tie it to ISIS on their way out.
BeaverCleaver
Footballguy
According to this article ISIS has claimed responsibility for this. Just terrible.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Two-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html#ixzz4FW6onIfD
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
What to make of what seems like a small attack in comparison to the large body counts in other more coordinated attacks.
This is just my opinion but I believe it is becoming harder and harder for ISIS to not only buy and supply weapons that can do larger harm but also it seems they are having their communications disrupted a lot.
In ways it's scarier because it seems there are random low level attacks where they take control of a church, horrible they kill anyone but it feels like the attacks are becoming more and more random. Forget Times Square, it's going to be the local church in your area that has very little if any security at all.
This is just my opinion but I believe it is becoming harder and harder for ISIS to not only buy and supply weapons that can do larger harm but also it seems they are having their communications disrupted a lot.
In ways it's scarier because it seems there are random low level attacks where they take control of a church, horrible they kill anyone but it feels like the attacks are becoming more and more random. Forget Times Square, it's going to be the local church in your area that has very little if any security at all.
sho nuff
Footballguy
All are scary...but these types do seem to be those that inflict a lot of fear. As in...can be hit anywhere. AT a small town parade(not saying Nice is small) , at church, at Wal Mart of a club.
Just a terrible disgusting thing.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Right, not to be suggestive but an attack in a Wal Mart which could do nothing to stop a couple of them armed with big weapons from marching in the store and taking control and doing terrible things to the customers.
Most of you know by now that the Bataclan in Paris incident, much was suppressed to the media and public but they mutilated a lot of the people they killed until they were finally taken out. I'm not going to print it but you can find it around the internet.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Dr Oadi
Footballguy
The media across the pond is dishonest as well.####, if that's the case, it was conveniently left out in the BBC link
otb_lifer
Footballguy
found itMinistry of Pain said:
thought I knew the whole story, but, hell no - ####### barbaric.
have an ex who is now teaching near Provence, and even she never let on about that (mutilation) aspect - though she has a colleague whose daughter was one of the massacred that night.
sonofa#####
This all happened in the last 12 days in Europe:
14th July] - Tunisian Muslim massacres 84 (including ten children) by driving truck into Bastille Day crowds.
[16th July] - Moroccan Muslim stabs French mother and 3 daughters for wearing "shorts and t-shirts" at Alps resort. (8yr old daughter still on life-support with punctured-lung.)
[18th July] - Afghan Muslim launches axe and knife attack on train passengers in Wuerzburg.
[22nd July] - Iranian national shoots 10 dead in Munich.
[24th July, Afternoon] - Syrian Muslim hacks pregnant woman to death in Reutlingen.
[24th July, Evening] - Another Syrian Muslim migrant detonates suicide bomb in Ansbach.
[26th July] - Two Muslims butcher defenseless 92yr old French Priest in Normandy.
14th July] - Tunisian Muslim massacres 84 (including ten children) by driving truck into Bastille Day crowds.
[16th July] - Moroccan Muslim stabs French mother and 3 daughters for wearing "shorts and t-shirts" at Alps resort. (8yr old daughter still on life-support with punctured-lung.)
[18th July] - Afghan Muslim launches axe and knife attack on train passengers in Wuerzburg.
[22nd July] - Iranian national shoots 10 dead in Munich.
[24th July, Afternoon] - Syrian Muslim hacks pregnant woman to death in Reutlingen.
[24th July, Evening] - Another Syrian Muslim migrant detonates suicide bomb in Ansbach.
[26th July] - Two Muslims butcher defenseless 92yr old French Priest in Normandy.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Churches, public transportation, celebration events where crowds are spread and law enforcement thus is thin, pregnant woman, women and children...I don't know how you can stop this. Eventually the unthinkable but people won't leave their house and that impacts the economy.
Bucky86
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
So, we should institute the death penalty overseas now and run it for these other countries?
My heart aches for our European friends and their incompetent leadership. More Muslims flooding in as we speak.
They need to get tough and get tough FAST!
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Ya got a problem with exterminating these cockroaches? If they had done what I just said, the priest would be alive and the cockroach would have never even been missed.
You can start by stopping the influx of refugees into European countries. Then you have to turn your head to ISIS, bomb the oil!
whoknew
Footballguy
What do you think the US has been doing for 15 years?
Maybe a different approach is appropriate. (I know this doesn't go with your schtick)
How a Danish Town Helped Young Muslims Turn Away from ISIS
Link and Aarslev are crime prevention officers. They usually deal with locals who are drawn to right-wing extremism, or gangs. The landscape of global terrorism was completely new to them. But they decided to take it on. And once they did, they wound up creating an unusual — and unusually successful — approach to combating radicalization.
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But the Danish police officers took a different approach: They made it clear to citizens of Denmark who had traveled to Syria that they were welcome to come home, and that when they did, they would receive help with going back to school, finding an apartment, meeting with a psychiatrist or a mentor, or whatever they needed to fully integrate back into society.
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As they see it, coming down hard on young, radicalized Muslims will only make them angrier and more of a danger to society. Helping them is the only chance to keep an eye on them and also to keep the peace in their town.
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Starting in 2012, 34 people went from Aarhus to Syria. As far as the police know, six were killed and 10 are still over there. Of the 18 who came back home, all showed up in Aarslev and Link's office, as did hundreds of other potential radicals in Aarhus — about 330 in total.
But the program is admired for another accomplishment: Since the initial exodus of young people, very few have left from Aarhus for Syria, even when traffic from the rest of Europe was spiking. Last year, in 2015, it was just one person.
bueno
In a class by himself
whoknew
Footballguy
Sconch
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
I have a problem with us using or forcing others to use capital punishment especially with little or no due process.
bueno
In a class by himself
The problem is that Islam is an anarchist religion in that it doesn't have a hierarchy. Anyone can be an Imam (any man at least) and issue proclamations that the faithful are supposed to follow.
So maybe we start by assassinating the radical priests of Islam. Nobody seems to like my idea of stealing their meteorite until they promise to behave and turning the Middle East into the Plains of Armageddon is more of a reality than many of us want to admit.
So maybe we start by assassinating the radical priests of Islam. Nobody seems to like my idea of stealing their meteorite until they promise to behave and turning the Middle East into the Plains of Armageddon is more of a reality than many of us want to admit.
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bueno
In a class by himself
So that is how you guys read 'exterminate them' (radicals who want to kill us). Ok. Did you even read what happened? The guy tried to join ISIS and instead of exterminating him, they let him execute a priest.
But you will stand by and do zippo when one of them does the same to a priest. You have no answers. You are a HUGE part of the problem. If you were in charge, this would ever get better. You'd be too busy saying we need to educate these neanderthals and teach kindness as they cut your head off.
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