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Because poor people have a harder time getting IDs due to lack of resources and people in urban settings are less likely to already have a driver's license since they may not need one, and African-Americans are disproportionately poor/living in urban settings.
And those facilities are either under funded or do not exist in their neighborhoods.
What is it... $20-$30 for an ID?
That is crap...There has been so little voter fraud cases in this country...It is made up by the GOP
If you want to advocate funding for IDs (transportation as well as processing fees) and guaranteed leave for voting or even a holiday so that people can wait in lines generated by ID checks without worrying about losing money, I'm with you Unfortunately we don't have those things right now, so until we do we should make sure our voting laws don't discriminate on any basis- race, socioeconomic status, whatever. The John Oliver bit on these laws is pretty good if you want to check it out.
I work. I vote either before or after work. If the lines are long in the morning I come back at night. If the lines are still long I have a choice. Either wait in line or go home and don't vote. Its simple.
I'm for a middle ground on this. I'd make monetary concessions in the form of taxation to make it very easy for anyone to get an ID, open more centers and staff them. But, you gotta get one to vote. We spend tax money on things much more ludicrous than ID centers, I'd sign off on this for sure if left up to me.
I don't know how it is in other parts of the country, but the states I have voted in Texas, Oklahoma, Indiana, Maryland, and Florida either didn't ask for my ID, or if they did it was a little old lady who didn't give two ####s about it. Would be very easy for any person to borrow another person's ID to vote. Now recently in Oklahoma they ask for your address, and they mark you off in a book to show you have already voted. This would work without an ID in a small state like Oklahoma, but I don't see how in the world they keep up with this issue in a large populated area.
Do you drive to these places and can easily just bounce back and forth between home, office and the polling place or do you use mass transit? Do you have children whose care you need to account for (and pay for)?
Urban areas have a higher density of people sans legs and may not be able to make it to a mailbox on a regular basis.
I'd rather this be done offline. Without a total thread hijack, less doubt with the old in person system that works.
The flaw here is that you're thinking of these rules as they apply to a single hypothetical person ("couldn't they just do ____"). But that's not the issue. The issue is disparate impact.
What the hell are you talking about . Access has no thing to do with wealth or skin color . It's a PIA for me to vote.
Voting is a right for citizens. One person, one vote. But there are other requirements that must be met - like an address so you vote for the candidates that represent that address. Like proving who you are so no one steals your vote from you by pretending to be you.
Can you explain to me how this would happen? Not just logistically, but also how someone could arrive at the conclusion that the potential reward is worth even 0.00001% of the risk?
When you register to vote, you get a voter registration card. Is that sufficient for you?
I think the burden is that it is a PITA in large cities to get IDs/drivers licenses and because people take public transportation around, they literally do not need an ID for anything. So they don't have them. When I was living in Philadelphia when I was young, I let my drivers license expire for several years because I didn't have a car at the time and didn't want to deal with PENNDOT. It'd burn me at a bar every once in a while but it still didn't motivate my ### to deal with spending an entire day waiting in hell to get a new license.
You really gotta stop with this line of thinking.
if you choose not to have an ID you are basically giving up on the chance to ever be a productive member of society..
I don't think a constitutional right can be denied because you don't have ID. I suspect that's what the Court said today (though I admittedly haven't read the decision. Maybe I'm wrong).
ID requirements also open up the door for all kinds of other shenanigans, because every requirement adds to the human element and someone might be racist or sexist or having a terrible day or think you look too much like their ex-husband or whatever. Or the law itself might be too narrowly crafted or interpreted. Check out the story of Eddie Lee Holloway.
Seems they are scared in Texas. You wouldn't think so with the way Texas has voted "R" for so long. The RNC has a deathgrip on Texas, so why is Texas so worried about minorities and poor voting? Can't be that many people disenfranchised that it could sway the state.
