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I'd be interested to know how many undocumented workers are employed as housekeepers and kitchen workers at Trump's various hotels, and on construction crews building his properties. This isn't a knock on Trump in particular, as undocumented workers are common across these industries.

 
I'd be interested to know how many undocumented workers are employed as housekeepers and kitchen workers at Trump's various hotels, and on construction crews building his properties. This isn't a knock on Trump in particular, as undocumented workers are common across these industries.
trumps defense is he doesnt employee any of those people. He sub contracts out.

its been his defense for a long time, see this article from 1990 as an example: http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/13/nyregion/trump-says-he-didn-t-know-he-employed-illegal-aliens.html

 
I'd be interested to know how many undocumented workers are employed as housekeepers and kitchen workers at Trump's various hotels, and on construction crews building his properties. This isn't a knock on Trump in particular, as undocumented workers are common across these industries.
trumps defense is he doesnt employee any of those people. He sub contracts out.

its been his defense for a long time, see this article from 1990 as an example: http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/13/nyregion/trump-says-he-didn-t-know-he-employed-illegal-aliens.html
I'm not trying to say that he has knowledge or is to blame. But imagine the disruption to his businesses if he was actually able to deport every undocumented worker in the country.

 
Obama promised hope and change. Said he'd make a real difference. He was going to be the transcendent, transformative president who made real lasting change. He was going to fix Washington. Back then, people were angry and fed up too, and he tapped into those emotions just like Trump is now. Only difference was style and content, but it was the same crap.

So to post a stupid meme here showing all the things Trump is promising to do is meaningless. And when you consider the things he says lack any real practical application, or specifics, or a real grasp of the issues, it's actually pretty comical and pathetic. But hey, trolls gonna troll.
Except that Obama was very specific about the sort of change he wanted:1. He promised to withdraw our troops from Iraq.

2. He promised comprehensive healthcare reform.

3. He promised to negotiate with some of our adversaries, such as Iran and Cuba, rather than simply attempt to isolate them further.

4. He promised to appoint Supreme Court justices which matched his progressive view of the Constitution as a living document and would help to protect a woman's right to her body.

That's just a few among many things he promised. Some, such as closing Gitmo, he failed to keep. But all of the above promises he DID keep. You may not like them or agree with them. But you can't call him a fake. And to compare a serious politician and leader like Obama to a moronic, bombastic demagogue like Trump is absurd.
Like I said, the content was different, but do you really think the things you mentioned are what got him elected? How many millions of Obama voters in 2008 even understood those issues at the time, or spent any time thinking about them, or gave a rat's ###? The point is he tapped into emotion and got people to feel passionately. In that respect, the sales methodology is identical. And in the end, is Washington any less of a dysfunctional whorehouse than it was before Obama took office?
Totally disagree. Trump is pitching specific ideas that are ridiculous/impossible. Obama didn't do that. His specific ideas were plausible things that could be accomplished either by a President or by a President with the help of Congress, and in fact many of them were accomplished. The specific ideas Trump is selling to people literally cannot be done. We might be suckers, but we have to be better than this. Big difference between buying into high-minded but empty rhetoric and buying into pure fiction.
Points well taken. Obviously the messages are vastly different. There were running jokes for the first couple years of Obama's presidency about people thinking okay, change has come, where's my free new house? That's the kind of expectation he set with a lot of (naive) people. One can only conclude that serious Trump supporters honestly believe that he can build a wall across the entire Mexican border, deport millions of illegals, and convince corporations to move jobs back to the U.S.

As far as Obama's record, I'd say he's been a massive disappointment when you consider his lofty rhetoric from the first campaign. He hasn't been a transcendent figure at all imo. The two parties are more polarized than ever, not that it's all his fault, but he's the one who set the expectation that he could change the tone and the culture. And his signature issue was health care, not exactly a smashing success.

But, at least Obama has been competent and steered the ship away from any huge icebergs. It's not hard to imagine civil unrest, massive global economic destabilization or even WWIII under a president Trump. I'm not in any way comparing their qualifications for POTUS, that's laughable. Just the emotional notes he's hitting with angry/frustrated people, the strong desire for "change", whatever it may be, just please God no more of "this", and the false expectation setting.

 
Obama promised hope and change. Said he'd make a real difference. He was going to be the transcendent, transformative president who made real lasting change. He was going to fix Washington. Back then, people were angry and fed up too, and he tapped into those emotions just like Trump is now. Only difference was style and content, but it was the same crap.

So to post a stupid meme here showing all the things Trump is promising to do is meaningless. And when you consider the things he says lack any real practical application, or specifics, or a real grasp of the issues, it's actually pretty comical and pathetic. But hey, trolls gonna troll.
Except that Obama was very specific about the sort of change he wanted:1. He promised to withdraw our troops from Iraq.

2. He promised comprehensive healthcare reform.

3. He promised to negotiate with some of our adversaries, such as Iran and Cuba, rather than simply attempt to isolate them further.

4. He promised to appoint Supreme Court justices which matched his progressive view of the Constitution as a living document and would help to protect a woman's right to her body.

That's just a few among many things he promised. Some, such as closing Gitmo, he failed to keep. But all of the above promises he DID keep. You may not like them or agree with them. But you can't call him a fake. And to compare a serious politician and leader like Obama to a moronic, bombastic demagogue like Trump is absurd.
Like I said, the content was different, but do you really think the things you mentioned are what got him elected? How many millions of Obama voters in 2008 even understood those issues at the time, or spent any time thinking about them, or gave a rat's ###? The point is he tapped into emotion and got people to feel passionately. In that respect, the sales methodology is identical. And in the end, is Washington any less of a dysfunctional whorehouse than it was before Obama took office?
Totally disagree. Trump is pitching specific ideas that are ridiculous/impossible. Obama didn't do that. His specific ideas were plausible things that could be accomplished either by a President or by a President with the help of Congress, and in fact many of them were accomplished. The specific ideas Trump is selling to people literally cannot be done. We might be suckers, but we have to be better than this. Big difference between buying into high-minded but empty rhetoric and buying into pure fiction.
Points well taken. Obviously the messages are vastly different.There were running jokes for the first couple years of Obama's presidency about people thinking okay, change has come, where's my free new house? That's the kind of expectation he set with a lot of (naive) people. One can only conclude that serious Trump supporters honestly believe that he can build a wall across the entire Mexican border, deport millions of illegals, and convince corporations to move jobs back to the U.S.

As far as Obama's record, I'd say he's been a massive disappointment when you consider his lofty rhetoric from the first campaign. He hasn't been a transcendent figure at all imo. The two parties are more polarized than ever, not that it's all his fault, but he's the one who set the expectation that he could change the tone and the culture. And his signature issue was health care, not exactly a smashing success.

But, at least Obama has been competent and steered the ship away from any huge icebergs. It's not hard to imagine civil unrest, massive global economic destabilization or even WWIII under a president Trump. I'm not in any way comparing their qualifications for POTUS, that's laughable. Just the emotional notes he's hitting with angry/frustrated people, the strong desire for "change", whatever it may be, just please God no more of "this", and the false expectation setting.
Wall of China was built how long ago? It is a lot bigger than what we would need too. Israel built a beautiful wall that works.

As far as deporting millions of illegals, why not? It has been done before in the USA and it could be done again.

The money we would save not having them in the country anymore would outweigh the cost of the wall + deporting, easily. There is also the added benefit of less crime once they are gone too.

 
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Obama promised hope and change. Said he'd make a real difference. He was going to be the transcendent, transformative president who made real lasting change. He was going to fix Washington. Back then, people were angry and fed up too, and he tapped into those emotions just like Trump is now. Only difference was style and content, but it was the same crap.

So to post a stupid meme here showing all the things Trump is promising to do is meaningless. And when you consider the things he says lack any real practical application, or specifics, or a real grasp of the issues, it's actually pretty comical and pathetic. But hey, trolls gonna troll.
Except that Obama was very specific about the sort of change he wanted:1. He promised to withdraw our troops from Iraq.

2. He promised comprehensive healthcare reform.

3. He promised to negotiate with some of our adversaries, such as Iran and Cuba, rather than simply attempt to isolate them further.

4. He promised to appoint Supreme Court justices which matched his progressive view of the Constitution as a living document and would help to protect a woman's right to her body.

That's just a few among many things he promised. Some, such as closing Gitmo, he failed to keep. But all of the above promises he DID keep. You may not like them or agree with them. But you can't call him a fake. And to compare a serious politician and leader like Obama to a moronic, bombastic demagogue like Trump is absurd.
Like I said, the content was different, but do you really think the things you mentioned are what got him elected? How many millions of Obama voters in 2008 even understood those issues at the time, or spent any time thinking about them, or gave a rat's ###? The point is he tapped into emotion and got people to feel passionately. In that respect, the sales methodology is identical. And in the end, is Washington any less of a dysfunctional whorehouse than it was before Obama took office?
Totally disagree. Trump is pitching specific ideas that are ridiculous/impossible. Obama didn't do that. His specific ideas were plausible things that could be accomplished either by a President or by a President with the help of Congress, and in fact many of them were accomplished. The specific ideas Trump is selling to people literally cannot be done. We might be suckers, but we have to be better than this. Big difference between buying into high-minded but empty rhetoric and buying into pure fiction.
Points well taken. Obviously the messages are vastly different.There were running jokes for the first couple years of Obama's presidency about people thinking okay, change has come, where's my free new house? That's the kind of expectation he set with a lot of (naive) people. One can only conclude that serious Trump supporters honestly believe that he can build a wall across the entire Mexican border, deport millions of illegals, and convince corporations to move jobs back to the U.S.

As far as Obama's record, I'd say he's been a massive disappointment when you consider his lofty rhetoric from the first campaign. He hasn't been a transcendent figure at all imo. The two parties are more polarized than ever, not that it's all his fault, but he's the one who set the expectation that he could change the tone and the culture. And his signature issue was health care, not exactly a smashing success.

But, at least Obama has been competent and steered the ship away from any huge icebergs. It's not hard to imagine civil unrest, massive global economic destabilization or even WWIII under a president Trump. I'm not in any way comparing their qualifications for POTUS, that's laughable. Just the emotional notes he's hitting with angry/frustrated people, the strong desire for "change", whatever it may be, just please God no more of "this", and the false expectation setting.
Wall of China was built how long ago? It is a lot bigger than what we would need too. Israel built a beautiful wall that works.As far as deporting millions of illegals, why not? It has been done before in the USA and it could be done again.

The money we would save not having them in the country anymore would outweigh the cost of the wall + deporting, easily. There is also the added benefit of less crime once they are gone too.
:lmao: so awesome
 
Obama promised hope and change. Said he'd make a real difference. He was going to be the transcendent, transformative president who made real lasting change. He was going to fix Washington. Back then, people were angry and fed up too, and he tapped into those emotions just like Trump is now. Only difference was style and content, but it was the same crap.

So to post a stupid meme here showing all the things Trump is promising to do is meaningless. And when you consider the things he says lack any real practical application, or specifics, or a real grasp of the issues, it's actually pretty comical and pathetic. But hey, trolls gonna troll.
Except that Obama was very specific about the sort of change he wanted:1. He promised to withdraw our troops from Iraq.

2. He promised comprehensive healthcare reform.

3. He promised to negotiate with some of our adversaries, such as Iran and Cuba, rather than simply attempt to isolate them further.

4. He promised to appoint Supreme Court justices which matched his progressive view of the Constitution as a living document and would help to protect a woman's right to her body.

That's just a few among many things he promised. Some, such as closing Gitmo, he failed to keep. But all of the above promises he DID keep. You may not like them or agree with them. But you can't call him a fake. And to compare a serious politician and leader like Obama to a moronic, bombastic demagogue like Trump is absurd.
Like I said, the content was different, but do you really think the things you mentioned are what got him elected? How many millions of Obama voters in 2008 even understood those issues at the time, or spent any time thinking about them, or gave a rat's ###? The point is he tapped into emotion and got people to feel passionately. In that respect, the sales methodology is identical. And in the end, is Washington any less of a dysfunctional whorehouse than it was before Obama took office?
Totally disagree. Trump is pitching specific ideas that are ridiculous/impossible. Obama didn't do that. His specific ideas were plausible things that could be accomplished either by a President or by a President with the help of Congress, and in fact many of them were accomplished. The specific ideas Trump is selling to people literally cannot be done. We might be suckers, but we have to be better than this. Big difference between buying into high-minded but empty rhetoric and buying into pure fiction.
Points well taken. Obviously the messages are vastly different.There were running jokes for the first couple years of Obama's presidency about people thinking okay, change has come, where's my free new house? That's the kind of expectation he set with a lot of (naive) people. One can only conclude that serious Trump supporters honestly believe that he can build a wall across the entire Mexican border, deport millions of illegals, and convince corporations to move jobs back to the U.S.

As far as Obama's record, I'd say he's been a massive disappointment when you consider his lofty rhetoric from the first campaign. He hasn't been a transcendent figure at all imo. The two parties are more polarized than ever, not that it's all his fault, but he's the one who set the expectation that he could change the tone and the culture. And his signature issue was health care, not exactly a smashing success.

But, at least Obama has been competent and steered the ship away from any huge icebergs. It's not hard to imagine civil unrest, massive global economic destabilization or even WWIII under a president Trump. I'm not in any way comparing their qualifications for POTUS, that's laughable. Just the emotional notes he's hitting with angry/frustrated people, the strong desire for "change", whatever it may be, just please God no more of "this", and the false expectation setting.
Wall of China was built how long ago? It is a lot bigger than what we would need too. Israel built a beautiful wall that works.

As far as deporting millions of illegals, why not? It has been done before in the USA and it could be done again.

The money we would save not having them in the country anymore would outweigh the cost of the wall + deporting, easily. There is also the added benefit of less crime once they are gone too.
:wub: Never change, JBK.

In case anyone actually believes this nonsense:

-The great wall of China was built over hundreds of years at untold expense, both financial and in terms of human lives and health

-The Israeli wall is only 400 miles long, took years to complete, has been of questionable effectiveness, and oh by the way Israel has a 50% tax rate on its wealthier citizens that helps it pay for this and other expensive security measures we cannot adopt here for both budgetary and practical reasons.

-You can google the ridiculousness of the mass deportation idea and read about it anywhere. Here's a good start- a conservative group estimates it would cost hundreds of billions, would take 20 years and would lop off $1.6 trillion from the GDP.

Again: there's campaign promises made in the past, and there's Trump. This is several levels of stupid above what we've seen in the past. If you indulge this sort of stupidity (conveniently paired with a heaping helping of racism and xenophobia!) you should stay home from the polls for the rest of your life. Consider it a gesture of service to our great nation.

 
Obama promised hope and change. Said he'd make a real difference. He was going to be the transcendent, transformative president who made real lasting change. He was going to fix Washington. Back then, people were angry and fed up too, and he tapped into those emotions just like Trump is now. Only difference was style and content, but it was the same crap.

So to post a stupid meme here showing all the things Trump is promising to do is meaningless. And when you consider the things he says lack any real practical application, or specifics, or a real grasp of the issues, it's actually pretty comical and pathetic. But hey, trolls gonna troll.
Except that Obama was very specific about the sort of change he wanted:1. He promised to withdraw our troops from Iraq.

2. He promised comprehensive healthcare reform.

3. He promised to negotiate with some of our adversaries, such as Iran and Cuba, rather than simply attempt to isolate them further.

4. He promised to appoint Supreme Court justices which matched his progressive view of the Constitution as a living document and would help to protect a woman's right to her body.

That's just a few among many things he promised. Some, such as closing Gitmo, he failed to keep. But all of the above promises he DID keep. You may not like them or agree with them. But you can't call him a fake. And to compare a serious politician and leader like Obama to a moronic, bombastic demagogue like Trump is absurd.
Like I said, the content was different, but do you really think the things you mentioned are what got him elected? How many millions of Obama voters in 2008 even understood those issues at the time, or spent any time thinking about them, or gave a rat's ###? The point is he tapped into emotion and got people to feel passionately. In that respect, the sales methodology is identical. And in the end, is Washington any less of a dysfunctional whorehouse than it was before Obama took office?
Totally disagree. Trump is pitching specific ideas that are ridiculous/impossible. Obama didn't do that. His specific ideas were plausible things that could be accomplished either by a President or by a President with the help of Congress, and in fact many of them were accomplished. The specific ideas Trump is selling to people literally cannot be done. We might be suckers, but we have to be better than this. Big difference between buying into high-minded but empty rhetoric and buying into pure fiction.
Points well taken. Obviously the messages are vastly different.There were running jokes for the first couple years of Obama's presidency about people thinking okay, change has come, where's my free new house? That's the kind of expectation he set with a lot of (naive) people. One can only conclude that serious Trump supporters honestly believe that he can build a wall across the entire Mexican border, deport millions of illegals, and convince corporations to move jobs back to the U.S.

As far as Obama's record, I'd say he's been a massive disappointment when you consider his lofty rhetoric from the first campaign. He hasn't been a transcendent figure at all imo. The two parties are more polarized than ever, not that it's all his fault, but he's the one who set the expectation that he could change the tone and the culture. And his signature issue was health care, not exactly a smashing success.

But, at least Obama has been competent and steered the ship away from any huge icebergs. It's not hard to imagine civil unrest, massive global economic destabilization or even WWIII under a president Trump. I'm not in any way comparing their qualifications for POTUS, that's laughable. Just the emotional notes he's hitting with angry/frustrated people, the strong desire for "change", whatever it may be, just please God no more of "this", and the false expectation setting.
Wall of China was built how long ago? It is a lot bigger than what we would need too. Israel built a beautiful wall that works.

As far as deporting millions of illegals, why not? It has been done before in the USA and it could be done again.

The money we would save not having them in the country anymore would outweigh the cost of the wall + deporting, easily. There is also the added benefit of less crime once they are gone too.
If this really happened we would be begging for them to come back.

 
Wall of China was built how long ago? It is a lot bigger than what we would need too. Israel built a beautiful wall that works.

be accomplished either by a President or by a President with the help of Congress, and in fact many of them were accomplished. The specific ideas Trump is selling to people literally cannot be done. We might be suckers, but we have to be better than this. Big difference between buying into high-minded but empty rhetoric and buying into pure fiction.
Points well taken. Obviously the messages are vastly different.There were running jokes for the first couple years of Obama's presidency about people thinking okay, change has come, where's my free new house? That's the kind of expectation he set with a lot of (naive) people. One can only conclude that serious Trump supporters honestly believe that he can build a wall across the entire Mexican border, deport millions of illegals, and convince corporations to move jobs back to the U.S.

As far as Obama's record, I'd say he's been a massive disappointment when you consider his lofty rhetoric from the first campaign. He hasn't been a transcendent figure at all imo. The two parties are more polarized than ever, not that it's all his fault, but he's the one who set the expectation that he could change the tone and the culture. And his signature issue was health care, not exactly a smashing success.

But, at least Obama has been competent and steered the ship away from any huge icebergs. It's not hard to imagine civil unrest, massive global economic destabilization or even WWIII under a president Trump. I'm not in any way comparing their qualifications for POTUS, that's laughable. Just the emotional notes he's hitting with angry/frustrated people, the strong desire for "change", whatever it may be, just please God no more of "this", and the false expectation setting.

As far as deporting millions of illegals, why not? It has been done before in the USA and it could be done again.

The money we would save not having them in the country anymore would outweigh the cost of the wall + deporting, easily. There is also the added benefit of less crime once they are gone too.
:wub: Never change, JBK.

In case anyone actually believes this nonsense:

-The great wall of China was built over hundreds of years at untold expense, both financial and in terms of human lives and health

-The Israeli wall is only 400 miles long, took years to complete, has been of questionable effectiveness, and oh by the way Israel has a 50% tax rate on its wealthier citizens that helps it pay for this and other expensive security measures we cannot adopt here for both budgetary and practical reasons.

-You can google the ridiculousness of the mass deportation idea and read about it anywhere. Here's a good start- a conservative group estimates it would cost hundreds of billions, would take 20 years and would lop off $1.6 trillion from the GDP.

Again: there's campaign promises made in the past, and there's Trump. This is several levels of stupid above what we've seen in the past. If you indulge this sort of stupidity (conveniently paired with a heaping helping of racism and xenophobia!) you should stay home from the polls for the rest of your life. Consider it a gesture of service to our great nation.
Only a stooge for big business would be against deporting illegals. Not surprised you found some libertarian think piece that reflects the "impossibilities of deporting." By the way, the guy's article you linked seems to be an employee for big labor, so it isn't surprising he is writing anti deportation pieces.

 
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http://ktla.com/2015/10/26/calls-for-snl-to-dump-donald-trump-as-host-grow-louder/

Donald Trump is scheduled to host “Saturday Night Live” on Nov. 7, but if a growing chorus of critics have their way, he won’t be.

Latino advocacy groups, politicians and some media observers are calling for NBC to disinvite the tycoon turned reality TV star turned Republican presidential front-runner from the gig, citing inflammatory remarks Trump made about Mexican immigrants in the speech announcing his White House run in June.

I am hoping SNL cancels on Trump, that would only make him stronger IMO.

 
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Yes, definitely never change JBK. Best unintentional comedy since...?

Also the perfect embodiment of The Trump Voter. Let him keep posting and the other side doesn't need to say a thing. Shake your head and laugh.

 
http://ktla.com/2015/10/26/calls-for-snl-to-dump-donald-trump-as-host-grow-louder/

Donald Trump is scheduled to host Saturday Night Live on Nov. 7, but if a growing chorus of critics have their way, he wont be.

Latino advocacy groups, politicians and some media observers are calling for NBC to disinvite the tycoon turned reality TV star turned Republican presidential front-runner from the gig, citing inflammatory remarks Trump made about Mexican immigrants in the speech announcing his White House run in June.

I am hoping SNL cancels on Trump, that would only make him stronger IMO.
It'll never happen. It's a ratings goldmine, and they'll still ravage him. Part of the deal is nothing is off limits.
 
Yes, definitely never change JBK. Best unintentional comedy since...?

Also the perfect embodiment of The Trump Voter. Let him keep posting and the other side doesn't need to say a thing. Shake your head and laugh.
Daddy Trump is coming home mad whether you like it or not McGarnicle.

He is going to make America Great Again.

 
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Jamesbrownkid said:
McGarnicle said:
Yes, definitely never change JBK. Best unintentional comedy since...?

Also the perfect embodiment of The Trump Voter. Let him keep posting and the other side doesn't need to say a thing. Shake your head and laugh.
Daddy Trump is coming home mad whether you like it or not McGarnicle.

He is going to make America Great Again.
'' Who`s your daddy ?''

 
McGarnicle said:
Jamesbrownkid said:
McGarnicle said:
TobiasFunke said:
McGarnicle said:
timschochet said:
McGarnicle said:
Obama promised hope and change. Said he'd make a real difference. He was going to be the transcendent, transformative president who made real lasting change. He was going to fix Washington. Back then, people were angry and fed up too, and he tapped into those emotions just like Trump is now. Only difference was style and content, but it was the same crap.

So to post a stupid meme here showing all the things Trump is promising to do is meaningless. And when you consider the things he says lack any real practical application, or specifics, or a real grasp of the issues, it's actually pretty comical and pathetic. But hey, trolls gonna troll.
Except that Obama was very specific about the sort of change he wanted:1. He promised to withdraw our troops from Iraq.

2. He promised comprehensive healthcare reform.

3. He promised to negotiate with some of our adversaries, such as Iran and Cuba, rather than simply attempt to isolate them further.

4. He promised to appoint Supreme Court justices which matched his progressive view of the Constitution as a living document and would help to protect a woman's right to her body.

That's just a few among many things he promised. Some, such as closing Gitmo, he failed to keep. But all of the above promises he DID keep. You may not like them or agree with them. But you can't call him a fake. And to compare a serious politician and leader like Obama to a moronic, bombastic demagogue like Trump is absurd.
Like I said, the content was different, but do you really think the things you mentioned are what got him elected? How many millions of Obama voters in 2008 even understood those issues at the time, or spent any time thinking about them, or gave a rat's ###? The point is he tapped into emotion and got people to feel passionately. In that respect, the sales methodology is identical. And in the end, is Washington any less of a dysfunctional whorehouse than it was before Obama took office?
Totally disagree. Trump is pitching specific ideas that are ridiculous/impossible. Obama didn't do that. His specific ideas were plausible things that could be accomplished either by a President or by a President with the help of Congress, and in fact many of them were accomplished. The specific ideas Trump is selling to people literally cannot be done. We might be suckers, but we have to be better than this. Big difference between buying into high-minded but empty rhetoric and buying into pure fiction.
Points well taken. Obviously the messages are vastly different.There were running jokes for the first couple years of Obama's presidency about people thinking okay, change has come, where's my free new house? That's the kind of expectation he set with a lot of (naive) people. One can only conclude that serious Trump supporters honestly believe that he can build a wall across the entire Mexican border, deport millions of illegals, and convince corporations to move jobs back to the U.S.

As far as Obama's record, I'd say he's been a massive disappointment when you consider his lofty rhetoric from the first campaign. He hasn't been a transcendent figure at all imo. The two parties are more polarized than ever, not that it's all his fault, but he's the one who set the expectation that he could change the tone and the culture. And his signature issue was health care, not exactly a smashing success.

But, at least Obama has been competent and steered the ship away from any huge icebergs. It's not hard to imagine civil unrest, massive global economic destabilization or even WWIII under a president Trump. I'm not in any way comparing their qualifications for POTUS, that's laughable. Just the emotional notes he's hitting with angry/frustrated people, the strong desire for "change", whatever it may be, just please God no more of "this", and the false expectation setting.
Wall of China was built how long ago? It is a lot bigger than what we would need too. Israel built a beautiful wall that works.As far as deporting millions of illegals, why not? It has been done before in the USA and it could be done again.

The money we would save not having them in the country anymore would outweigh the cost of the wall + deporting, easily. There is also the added benefit of less crime once they are gone too.
:lmao: so awesome
:lmao: :X

Just when you thought someone couldn't be that dumb...

 
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Black people LOVE TRUMP (why wouldn't they? He is the only one running that cares about illegals taking jobs from them / lowering their salary)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/26/mike-tyson-makes-surprise-2016-endorsement-he-should-be-president-of-the-united-states/

Mike Tyson Endorses Trump

“He should be president of the United States,” Tyson said on HuffPost Live.

When asked if the former heavyweight champion would be casting his vote for Trump, Tyson responded, “Yeah, hell yeah! Big time.”

 
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Ivy League education

Job creator

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

etc..

 
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Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
 
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How is Donald Trump Going to Make America Great Again If His Supporters Are a Bunch of Losers?

Donald Trump wants to "make America great again," but his campaign is based on exploiting the fears of people who believe they're entitled to more from the U.S. economy than they're getting, people who believe they are not doing as well as they could be not because of any personal failings or a lack of a sufficient work ethic or just hard luck, but because the border isn't secure and so the illegal immigrants are taking the good-paying job the average Trump supporter would have.
:lmao:

Stealing a page right out of the liberal playbook. Just replace illegal immigrants with evil rich white men.

I'm not one to call anyone a loser, but Donald Trump is, and it's hard to imagine he doesn't realize that's what many of his supporters are.
This is the guy calling others losers.

Looks like a Bernie supporter.

 
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The Atlantic published this a while back:

A Liberal Who Wants America To Win

I have been a liberal practically all of my life (29 years). I am an atheist, and my first ever Presidential vote was cast for John Kerry. I more or less despised George Bush, and even though I leaned toward Hillary in 2008, I voted for Obama in 2012. I support gay marriage, legalization of marijuana, and many other liberal positions.

I do, however, believe that our country is in a terrible position and on a terrible track. Trump strikes many of my nerves, but one of the most accurate and dangerously true statements he has made is that "America doesn't win anymore." I agree. The world is rising while America falls. America and its leaders seem resigned to this fact. Rather than stiffening their spine and fighting to make America a prosperous nation for all, they simply talk, go through the motions, throw out a few "red meat" issues to keep their respective bases satisfied, and continue to concede American jobs and economic strength to the rest of the world.

To friends and family, I have long railed against the fact that America uses Presidential rejects and other back-bench political cronies as their chief negotiators. John Kerry (yes, the man I voted for) was out-negotiated time and time again by his Russian counterpart. And now, it appears that the same thing has happened once again with the Iran negotiators. This all ties back to the same fundamental thread: politicians have failed this country, leading to one loss after another.

I do not believe that I am a racist, sexist, homophobic, or any other negative label that has been affixed to Trump supports. Rather, I feel that political correctness has run amok in this country, and we now live in a society where every blogger and Twitter user is searching for the slightest offense so they can try to ruin another human (famous, or not). The average person is afraid of expressing any controversial opinion in a public forum for fear of being "exposed," made viral, and ruined, personally and/or professionally. It is heartening to see someone as confident and impervious to criticism as Trump standing up to this ever-present mob…and winning! People tend to support the underdog. Most media outlets have attacked Trump with so much vitriol that they have turned him into a sympathetic figure.

Yes, I really do feel that Donald Trump has the interests of America at heart. He has already made his money and lived a life of glamour and fame, and another few billion dollars won't have any real impact on his quality of life. Rather, I genuinely believe that Trump feels the need to fight for the country he loves. There once was a time when people could actually feel proud to be Americans, and Trump comes from a generation that experienced that feeling. Now, many are embarrassed to be associated with this country. Jobs are being outsourced with reckless abandon and this country is literally being hollowed out. Economic statistics do no justice to this reality, and the average American knows this to be true.

Trump supporters feel that a confident, strong-willed leader is needed to right the ship and to fight back against the perpetual decline this country has experienced for the last two-plus decades. And to be honest, I feel that Trump is our only hope in this next election. This is coming from someone who voted for Obama in the last election! Anyway, that's my story and the main reasons why I support Trump. I didn't plan out this response for days or try to make this all-inclusive, but this should give you a fair idea of why I, a liberal, support Donald Trump for president.
I don't know much about the Atlantic, they are probably a right wing nut job website and this comment was fabricated for the story.

 
DD for a guy who was in the military you sure do hate America. I guess living in DC will do that to anyone.

 
http://cis.org/for-every-new-job-two-new-immigrants Since 2000: 9.3 million new jobs, 18 million new immigrants

http://cis.org/despite-recent-job-growth-native-employment-still-below-2007

The BLS reports that 23.1 million adult (16-plus) immigrants (legal and illegal) were working in November 2007 and 25.1 million were working in November of this year — a two million increase. For natives, 124.01 million were working in November 2007 compared to 122.56 million in November 2014 — a 1.46 million decrease.

Although all of the employment growth has gone to immigrants, natives accounted for 69 percent of the growth in the 16 and older population from 2007 to 2014.

The number of immigrants working returned to pre-recession levels by the middle of 2012, and has continued to climb. But the number of natives working remains almost 1.5 million below the November 2007 level.

More recently, natives have done somewhat better. However, even with job growth in the last two years (November 2012 to November 2014), 45 percent of employment growth has gone to immigrants, though they comprise only 17 percent of the labor force.

The number of officially unemployed (looking for work in the prior four weeks) adult natives has declined in recent years. But the number of natives not in the labor force (neither working nor looking for work) continues to grow.

The number of adult natives 16-plus not in the labor force actually increased by 693,000 over the last year, November 2013 to November of 2014.

All of the information in BLS Table A-7 indicates there is no labor shortage in the United States, even as many members of Congress and the president continue to support efforts to increase the level of immigration, such as S.744 , which passed in the Senate last year. That bill would have roughly doubled the number of immigrants allowed into the country from one million annually to two million.2

It will take many years of sustained job growth just to absorb the enormous number of people, primarily native-born, who are currently not working and return the country to the labor force participation rate of 2007. If we continue to allow in new immigration at the current pace or choose to increase the immigration level, it will be even more difficult for the native-born to make back the ground they have lost in the labor market

http://cis.org/all-employment-growth-since-2000-went-to-immigrants.

Government data show that since 2000 all of the net gain in the number of working-age (16 to 65) people holding a job has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal). This is remarkable given that native-born Americans accounted for two-thirds of the growth in the total working-age population. Though there has been some recovery from the Great Recession, there were still fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.

Seems like Trump kicking out millions of illegals instead of granting them citizenship would be perfect for people that don't have jobs, especially black people since their unemployment rate is double national rate.

 
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DD for a guy who was in the military you sure do hate America. I guess living in DC will do that to anyone.
Go #### yourself.
Actually this about the most insulting comment I've ever gotten here.

No idea what the impetus is besides Chauncey being a ####### fascist #####, but you've just been added to the list.

Blow it out your ### you ####### $3 whore. :thumbup:
what kind of list are we talking here? Does Chauncey have to fear for his life now? :lmao: Get a grip on reality and get out of the Trump thread if you are going to act like a buffoon

 
DD for a guy who was in the military you sure do hate America. I guess living in DC will do that to anyone.
Go #### yourself.
Actually this about the most insulting comment I've ever gotten here.

No idea what the impetus is besides Chauncey being a ####### fascist #####, but you've just been added to the list.

Blow it out your ### you ####### $3 whore. :thumbup:
what kind of list are we talking here? Does Chauncey have to fear for his life now? :lmao: Get a grip on reality and get out of the Trump thread if you are going to act like a buffoon
I noticed you didn't respond to my earlier post pretty much making you look like the mouth-breathing Trumpet you are.

Surprising? No. BUILD A WALL!!!! That's all I really have! /JBK

 
We are witnessing a meltdown right now from DD. Hope everything is okay in his personal life, you just never know with people that get so worked up over a forum.

 
DD for a guy who was in the military you sure do hate America. I guess living in DC will do that to anyone.
Go #### yourself.
Actually this about the most insulting comment I've ever gotten here.No idea what the impetus is besides Chauncey being a ####### fascist #####, but you've just been added to the list.

Blow it out your ### you ####### $3 whore. :thumbup:
what kind of list are we talking here? Does Chauncey have to fear for his life now? :lmao: Get a grip on reality and get out of the Trump thread if you are going to act like a buffoon
This whole thread was built on buffoonery
 
Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
:lmao:

 
Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
:lmao:
Are you laughing at him trying to paint Billionaire Trump as a failure when it comes to business and creating jobs? I laughed too

 
Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
:lmao:
Are you laughing at him trying to paint Billionaire Trump as a failure when it comes to business and creating jobs? I laughed too
Actually you just didn't have a response because much like Trump, you're all bark and no bite.

 
DD for a guy who was in the military you sure do hate America. I guess living in DC will do that to anyone.
Go #### yourself.
Actually this about the most insulting comment I've ever gotten here.No idea what the impetus is besides Chauncey being a ####### fascist #####, but you've just been added to the list.

Blow it out your ### you ####### $3 whore. :thumbup:
what kind of list are we talking here? Does Chauncey have to fear for his life now? :lmao: Get a grip on reality and get out of the Trump thread if you are going to act like a buffoon
This whole thread was built on buffoonery
No, you are thinking of the other Trump thread, this is the serious one. All buffoon comments belong in that thread.

 
Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
:lmao:
Are you laughing at him trying to paint Billionaire Trump as a failure when it comes to business and creating jobs? I laughed too
Actually you just didn't have a response because much like Trump, you're all bark and no bite.
I didn't respond to nonsensical snark? Oh what was I thinking not wasting my time answering you seriously, so silly of me.

 
DD for a guy who was in the military you sure do hate America. I guess living in DC will do that to anyone.
Go #### yourself.
Actually this about the most insulting comment I've ever gotten here.No idea what the impetus is besides Chauncey being a ####### fascist #####, but you've just been added to the list.

Blow it out your ### you ####### $3 whore. :thumbup:
what kind of list are we talking here? Does Chauncey have to fear for his life now? :lmao: Get a grip on reality and get out of the Trump thread if you are going to act like a buffoon
This whole thread was built on buffoonery
No, you are thinking of the other Trump thread, this is the serious one. All buffoon comments belong in that thread.
Disagree, we've had at least 214 buffoon comments in this thread

Who posted in: Official Donald Trump for President t... Member name Posts Jamesbrownkid 214 timschochet 45 Fennis 31 The General 31 BustedKnuckles 27 Eminence 25
 
Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
:lmao:
Are you laughing at him trying to paint Billionaire Trump as a failure when it comes to business and creating jobs? I laughed too
Oh man, this thread is making me laugh hard. Sorry JBK, you're a nice guy but I cannot for the life of me wonder if you aren't just posting these "facts" on Trump to liven up and entertain this here bored. I look forward to several more months of this. :D

 
Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
:lmao:
Are you laughing at him trying to paint Billionaire Trump as a failure when it comes to business and creating jobs? I laughed too
Actually you just didn't have a response because much like Trump, you're all bark and no bite.
I didn't respond to nonsensical snark? Oh what was I thinking not wasting my time answering you seriously, so silly of me.
"buildings he made."

:lmao:

 
The Atlantic published this a while back:

A Liberal Who Wants America To Win

I have been a liberal practically all of my life (29 years). I am an atheist, and my first ever Presidential vote was cast for John Kerry. I more or less despised George Bush, and even though I leaned toward Hillary in 2008, I voted for Obama in 2012. I support gay marriage, legalization of marijuana, and many other liberal positions.

I do, however, believe that our country is in a terrible position and on a terrible track. Trump strikes many of my nerves, but one of the most accurate and dangerously true statements he has made is that "America doesn't win anymore." I agree. The world is rising while America falls. America and its leaders seem resigned to this fact. Rather than stiffening their spine and fighting to make America a prosperous nation for all, they simply talk, go through the motions, throw out a few "red meat" issues to keep their respective bases satisfied, and continue to concede American jobs and economic strength to the rest of the world.

To friends and family, I have long railed against the fact that America uses Presidential rejects and other back-bench political cronies as their chief negotiators. John Kerry (yes, the man I voted for) was out-negotiated time and time again by his Russian counterpart. And now, it appears that the same thing has happened once again with the Iran negotiators. This all ties back to the same fundamental thread: politicians have failed this country, leading to one loss after another.

I do not believe that I am a racist, sexist, homophobic, or any other negative label that has been affixed to Trump supports. Rather, I feel that political correctness has run amok in this country, and we now live in a society where every blogger and Twitter user is searching for the slightest offense so they can try to ruin another human (famous, or not). The average person is afraid of expressing any controversial opinion in a public forum for fear of being "exposed," made viral, and ruined, personally and/or professionally. It is heartening to see someone as confident and impervious to criticism as Trump standing up to this ever-present moband winning! People tend to support the underdog. Most media outlets have attacked Trump with so much vitriol that they have turned him into a sympathetic figure.

Yes, I really do feel that Donald Trump has the interests of America at heart. He has already made his money and lived a life of glamour and fame, and another few billion dollars won't have any real impact on his quality of life. Rather, I genuinely believe that Trump feels the need to fight for the country he loves. There once was a time when people could actually feel proud to be Americans, and Trump comes from a generation that experienced that feeling. Now, many are embarrassed to be associated with this country. Jobs are being outsourced with reckless abandon and this country is literally being hollowed out. Economic statistics do no justice to this reality, and the average American knows this to be true.

Trump supporters feel that a confident, strong-willed leader is needed to right the ship and to fight back against the perpetual decline this country has experienced for the last two-plus decades. And to be honest, I feel that Trump is our only hope in this next election. This is coming from someone who voted for Obama in the last election! Anyway, that's my story and the main reasons why I support Trump. I didn't plan out this response for days or try to make this all-inclusive, but this should give you a fair idea of why I, a liberal, support Donald Trump for president.
I don't know much about the Atlantic, they are probably a right wing nut job website and this comment was fabricated for the story.
I swear you could take this article, nearly word for word, change just a few of the historical references, and place it as written by a young German liberal in 1932 explaining why he was going to support somebody that could make his country great again.
 
Ivy League education

They all are.

Job creator

Actually a job destroyer in Atlantic City

Knows how to be resourceful (look how cheap and effective Trump's campaign has been, buildings he made etc, wouldn't it be nice to have someone that isn't going to be wasteful with their resources?)

:lmao: @ "buildings he made." Well played.

Great Negotiator, which is what we need now more than ever with every country ripping us off in deals.

Link to every country ripping us off in deals? Can't wait, should be a great list.

Isn't politically correct, which is a cancer on society. I have already noticed more people being less PC because of Trump.

Sure you have, ool

Has a genuine love for America and American citizens (unlike Jeb Bush who is whining about how he has better things he could be doing)

Yes Jeb hates America, everyone knows that. Good point.

Has very capable friends that would be willing to help Make America Great again if Trump is elected (Think Carl Icahn)

America is already great. Politicians have been using this line for 70 years now, Trump is a true politician if there ever was one.

etc..

Well since you really didn't list anything substantial, I'm guessing all the real reasons are in this etc.
:lmao:
Are you laughing at him trying to paint Billionaire Trump as a failure when it comes to business and creating jobs? I laughed too
Actually you just didn't have a response because much like Trump, you're all bark and no bite.
I didn't respond to nonsensical snark? Oh what was I thinking not wasting my time answering you seriously, so silly of me.
"buildings he made." :lmao:
I laughed more that he is going to consult Carl Icahn to "make America great again"
 
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