Xavier L. Steele
Footballguy
It's your Dad Timmy. I didn't raise you to be a snarky liberal.., so shape up son. I love you.
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timschochet
Footballguy
My dad is certainly not a liberal. And he hates Hillary Clinton with a passion.It's your Dad Timmy. I didn't raise you to be a snarky liberal.., so shape up son. I love you.
But he told me today he'd vote for her if it was a choice between that and Donald Trump.
Xavier L. Steele
Footballguy
No, I didn't.My dad is certainly not a liberal. And he hates Hillary Clinton with a passion.It's your Dad Timmy. I didn't raise you to be a snarky liberal.., so shape up son. I love you.
But he told me today he'd vote for her if it was a choice between that and Donald Trump.
facook
Footballguy
I tend to be right of center but this would make me so so happy. My state (Oregon) would be guaranteed to go to Bernie anyway, but I'd vote for him over ChTrump.Someone has to lose to Bernie Sanders.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Ah yes, the classic "Obama never talked about the issues and only said nothing but 'Hope and Change' throughout his campaign. This is a classic. It's also full of it.
Here's what you can find in the Internet Archive - on this very date in 2007 (i.e. exact same point in the campaign as now) on the issues page. Please note that each header leads to a more detailed page if you click the hyperlink).
https://web.archive.org/web/20070829192725/http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
There are 13 sections.
When in you go inside of the sections there are dozens of paragraphs altogether detailing plans and steps.
Donald Trump's "Issues" page. At the same point in the election cycle.
1 section - Immigration.
Now the one section has a bunch or paragraphs on his one and only issue. Mostly based on the rants that he has made on the campaign trail.
On the chance that he actually, you know lists an issue or answer a question, I give you the internet archive version of the 8/27/15 "issues" page from Trump website. It's the same today.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150824010152/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
It is crazy to think that talking out ones butt is a way to make policy. He's like a less detailed version of the other Republican candidates when you boil it down on the issues that have made him catch fire.
The wall idea is stupid. It is stupid because there are people in Mexico who have access to rope and shovel technology. It is an expensive farce that makes a certain portion of the electorate feel good but is not a real plan. At least not a real plan that could deal with the issue. Maybe it's more sensible than Christie's human freight plan. I'll give it that.
Anyway, enjoy the Em thread
I'll go back to the huuuuuuuuuge Trump Thread 
Mainly posted in this to give it a star so I can take a peek now and then
-QG
Here's what you can find in the Internet Archive - on this very date in 2007 (i.e. exact same point in the campaign as now) on the issues page. Please note that each header leads to a more detailed page if you click the hyperlink).
https://web.archive.org/web/20070829192725/http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
There are 13 sections.
When in you go inside of the sections there are dozens of paragraphs altogether detailing plans and steps.
Donald Trump's "Issues" page. At the same point in the election cycle.
1 section - Immigration.
Now the one section has a bunch or paragraphs on his one and only issue. Mostly based on the rants that he has made on the campaign trail.
On the chance that he actually, you know lists an issue or answer a question, I give you the internet archive version of the 8/27/15 "issues" page from Trump website. It's the same today.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150824010152/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
It is crazy to think that talking out ones butt is a way to make policy. He's like a less detailed version of the other Republican candidates when you boil it down on the issues that have made him catch fire.
The wall idea is stupid. It is stupid because there are people in Mexico who have access to rope and shovel technology. It is an expensive farce that makes a certain portion of the electorate feel good but is not a real plan. At least not a real plan that could deal with the issue. Maybe it's more sensible than Christie's human freight plan. I'll give it that.
Anyway, enjoy the Em thread
I'll go back to the huuuuuuuuuge Trump Thread Mainly posted in this to give it a star so I can take a peek now and then -QG
The General
Footballguy
I wouldn't say crazy, just more of a blowhard, thin-skinned creep.
Whenever you ask him to explain how he wants to do anything he sounds like a complete fool.
Secure the border: Build a wall that the Mexicans pay for and get rid of "the bad ones" here.
Repeal ObamaCare: Absolutely! Replacewith something "terrific".
Fair Tax Code: As long as bankruptcy law doesn't get changed we can do this.
Deal With Iran or China: I'll talk "tough" and negotiate "smarter". I have bought buildings from the Chinese so I know how to handle them.
Good stuff Donald!
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Donald Trump is the president America deserves.
FUBAR
Footballguy
dallas050
Footballguy
The reason Trump is so popular is because he is pushing back against Political Correctness, the Political Establishment, and to some degree being a Businessman (outsider).
If the election were held today, I would vote for Trump. Why? I like Cruz, Paul, and would vote for a dead cat before I would vote for Hillary. I believe Trump is a true outsider and COULD shake up the Political Establishment that holds Washington hostage. I would like to see a president that fights! I'm tired of the same old republican candidates who promise and never deliver. Here in KY we have McConnell...ugh. He is worthless. At least we have Rand Paul who seems to fight a little.
This, of course, is my opinion and I believe Trump has a great chance to win because of the few issues he takes on. Illegals, National Debt, Iran, and the hope that his vast business experience will help get this country back on the right track.
We will see...
Jim
If the election were held today, I would vote for Trump. Why? I like Cruz, Paul, and would vote for a dead cat before I would vote for Hillary. I believe Trump is a true outsider and COULD shake up the Political Establishment that holds Washington hostage. I would like to see a president that fights! I'm tired of the same old republican candidates who promise and never deliver. Here in KY we have McConnell...ugh. He is worthless. At least we have Rand Paul who seems to fight a little.
This, of course, is my opinion and I believe Trump has a great chance to win because of the few issues he takes on. Illegals, National Debt, Iran, and the hope that his vast business experience will help get this country back on the right track.
We will see...
Jim
joffer
Footballguy
:stopped:
Widbil83
Footballguy
@realDonaldTrump: Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don't think so!
@realDonaldTrump: This is the first time in my life that I have caused controversy by NOT saying something.
@realDonaldTrump: If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!
Love this guy.
@realDonaldTrump: This is the first time in my life that I have caused controversy by NOT saying something.
@realDonaldTrump: If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!
Love this guy.
Widbil83
Footballguy
Amazing some people still don't get the appeal of Trump. He calls out Republicans, isn't bought off, doesn't give a #### about political correctness, tells the media they are losers and calls out Obama/Hillary at every turn. And he doesn't apologize. Something I think he learned from Obama. When was the last time that guy apologized for anything?
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Spoken like a guy who took yesterday off to do some reflecting. Haha@realDonaldTrump: Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don't think so!
@realDonaldTrump: This is the first time in my life that I have caused controversy by NOT saying something.
@realDonaldTrump: If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!
RBM
Footballguy
@realDonaldTrump: Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don't think so!
@realDonaldTrump: This is the first time in my life that I have caused controversy by NOT saying something.
@realDonaldTrump: If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Poor Em, nobody wants to play in his thread.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Em sleeping on the job keeping this thread alive.
Rove!
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
Fennis
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Around 1975 or 1976. As an ice cream scooper for Baskin-Robbins he once gave a customer vanilla when they specifically asked for French vanilla.Widbil83 said:
Obama said sorry, tough luck dude.
Fennis
Footballguy
[Paul Harvey]And that kids name? <pause...... pause.... pause>. Mitt... Romney. <pause> Good day! [/Paul Harvey]
Widbil83
Footballguy
I have disliked Obama since he got Jack Ryan's divorce records unsealed to win his Senate seat and have proudly voted against him 3 times.
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Fennis
Footballguy
Sure, but you've got to admit that it's pretty odd that a trait you admire Trump for is the exact one you criticize Obama for.
Fennis
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Then get on the road to Canada you commie pinko obummer lover.
Fennis
Footballguy
I'm thinking Mexico. I hear they have some job openings.Then get on the road to Canada you commie pinko obummer lover.
dschuler
Footballguy
Drug smuggling?I'm thinking Mexico. I hear they have some job openings.Then get on the road to Canada you commie pinko obummer lover.
Fennis
Footballguy
Fence builderDrug smuggling?I'm thinking Mexico. I hear they have some job openings.Then get on the road to Canada you commie pinko obummer lover.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
the trump fight song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZQfoXhbc0
all i wanna do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJbnM1zL-k&feature=youtu.be
all i wanna do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJbnM1zL-k&feature=youtu.be
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAINDonald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.
The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.
It’s been said that the Second Amendment is America’s first freedom. That’s because the Right to Keep and Bear Arms protects all our other rights. We are the only country in the world that has a Second Amendment. Protecting that freedom is imperative. Here’s how we will do that:
Enforce The Laws On The Books
We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.
Several years ago there was a tremendous program in Richmond, Virginia called Project Exile. It said that if a violent felon uses a gun to commit a crime, you will be prosecuted in federal court and go to prison for five years – no parole or early release. Obama’s former Attorney General, Eric Holder, called that a “cookie cutter” program. That’s ridiculous. I call that program a success. Murders committed with guns in Richmond decreased by over 60% when Project Exile was in place – in the first two years of the program alone, 350 armed felons were taken off the street.
Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns. We need to bring back and expand programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.
Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.
Fix Our Broken Mental Health System
Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.
All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.
And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.
We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.
Defend The Rights of Law-Abiding Gun Owners
GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans. Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.
BACKGROUND CHECKS. There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners. When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.
NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.
MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS. Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves.
The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.
The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.
It’s been said that the Second Amendment is America’s first freedom. That’s because the Right to Keep and Bear Arms protects all our other rights. We are the only country in the world that has a Second Amendment. Protecting that freedom is imperative. Here’s how we will do that:
Enforce The Laws On The Books
We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.
Several years ago there was a tremendous program in Richmond, Virginia called Project Exile. It said that if a violent felon uses a gun to commit a crime, you will be prosecuted in federal court and go to prison for five years – no parole or early release. Obama’s former Attorney General, Eric Holder, called that a “cookie cutter” program. That’s ridiculous. I call that program a success. Murders committed with guns in Richmond decreased by over 60% when Project Exile was in place – in the first two years of the program alone, 350 armed felons were taken off the street.
Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns. We need to bring back and expand programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.
Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.
Fix Our Broken Mental Health System
Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.
All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.
And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.
We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.
Defend The Rights of Law-Abiding Gun Owners
GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans. Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.
BACKGROUND CHECKS. There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners. When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.
NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.
MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS. Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves.
squistion
Footballguy
Carrying a concealed firearm is a right? I seriously doubt SCOTUS would agree with that.
In any event, the driver's license analogy is not a good one. Some states have stricter requirements than others - California, for example, requires people to pass a gun safety course to qualify for a concealed weapon permit, while South Dakota does not. I don't think politicians in South Dakota with laxer requirements, should have a say on who may carry a concealed weapon here in California (seems like a states' rights argument that conservatives would usually make).
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/09/19/im-one-donald-trump-vows-protect-christians-religious-liberty/
‘I’m One of You’: Donald Trump Vows to Protect Christians, Religious Liberty
“Every year it gets worse and worse,” he said. “We have nobody fighting for us. I’m one of you — just remember that.”
‘I’m One of You’: Donald Trump Vows to Protect Christians, Religious Liberty
“Every year it gets worse and worse,” he said. “We have nobody fighting for us. I’m one of you — just remember that.”
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
a conservatives dreamboat. can just spew and spew with giving two-shits about anyone or anything else..Widbil83 said:
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
joffer
Footballguy
so hard to be a Christian these days. I don't know how you guys manage
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
Please don't make fun of Christians even though you are being sarcastic, it is very hurtful.
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matuski
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
The NRA doesn't agree with you on that according to an article from the NRA-ILA site:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150705/don-t-equate-same-sex-marriage-decision-with-national-concealed-carry-reciprocity
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
What will happen if Trump himself sees this thread?
"Em, you're fired!! Go!"
:(
-QG
joffer
Footballguy
just declare yourself persecuted already
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
It doesn't matter what the NRA agrees with, it matters what the justices of the supreme court allow.
Jamesbrownkid
Footballguy
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