bulger2holt
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Nothing crazy, but which players are you going to take even if it's a round or two early?
Seems a little early for Melvin.Probably going to take Gordon in the 5/6th round
4th, if I smell something fishy going on
I'm looking at him too at the same place. D.Murray right there too. I'm at the 4/5 turn, so these might be my 2 picks.Probably going to take Gordon in the 5/6th round
4th, if I smell something fishy going on
Mark Ingram and Eli Manning have been rising on my board as wellDavid Johnson
Mark Ingram
Eli Manning
are probably the guys I feel most comfortable taking ahead of their ADP
In my mocks I find myself consistently reaching for Carlos Hyde at 3.3. I've been taking him over guys like lacy, Ingram, forte.
I just feel like he's a talented back and I'm buying into his success in chip Kelly's system. Barring injury he could be big time.
Also reaching for fleener in the 6th. That might be around his adp but still I think his adp is too high given the risk he brings. But the talent level and working with Drew Bree's in a te friendly system has my interest piqued.
Also reaching a bit on michael Floyd, Mike Evans, and Eli manning. All of whom I think are poised for huge seasons.
Floyd in a contract year and he's healthy. He's essentially the #1 on a high potency offense.
Evans is a beast who is only being downgraded BC he wasn't healthy last year and had a rookie qb. But with Winston improving a bit and Evans healthy I see big things in store.
Eli has a pass friendly offense with Mcadoo and his best receiver/Rb combo in a long time. If Shephard is who we think he is and Cruz can even be 75% of his old self in the slot, will Tye and dinner are serviceable, and Jennings/vereen are both good in the pass game. Plus Giants defense will still suck (although not as bad) so I see fireworks in the NFL east all season
This is one that I don't get. He's already going early 2nd round in most drafts. How much higher can you take him? What exactly is his ceiling? To me, taking a WR in the early 2nd tells me he has upside to overall WR1. So it makes sense guys like Marshall are in that vicinity. Cooks is coming off an "OK" 1100/9 season. That's barely mediocre WR2 stats, isn't it? He does not have the frame for a big red-zone target nor does he have the elite athleticism of an OBJ to just make it happen anyway. Why exactly is everyone pumping this kid?Cooks
Again these don't really make sense. DJ is going top 5, Ingram is going 2nd round, sometimes early 2nd. You can't really take them any earlier.David Johnson
Mark Ingram
Eli Manning
are probably the guys I feel most comfortable taking ahead of their ADP
New Orleans is going to be a bad d again, brees is a stud qb, they play 10 games on turf, they will play a lot of games from behind, he is the #1 option on a team that will play a lot from behind. He is listed as 14th on this adp, i'd take him above jeffrey (worse qb, will share with k white, conservative coach with new oc), cooper (worse qb), kallen (coming back from injury), mike evans (3 tds last year, but everyones fave bounce back, id rather have cooks).This is one that I don't get. He's already going early 2nd round in most drafts. How much higher can you take him? What exactly is his ceiling? To me, taking a WR in the early 2nd tells me he has upside to overall WR1. So it makes sense guys like Marshall are in that vicinity. Cooks is coming off an "OK" 1100/9 season. That's barely mediocre WR2 stats, isn't it? He does not have the frame for a big red-zone target nor does he have the elite athleticism of an OBJ to just make it happen anyway. Why exactly is everyone pumping this kid?
I agree. Hyde before Ingram or Lacey is foolish, imoGood post, I like Hyde as well but please don't take him over Lacey and Ingram. Forte for sure, but I just don't see him out scoring those two in any format
Again these don't really make sense. DJ is going top 5, Ingram is going 2nd round, sometimes early 2nd. You can't really take them any earlier.
When someone makes a post about reaches, think 1-2 rounds early. Something like Jordan Reed in the 2nd round would be a reach because his ADP is between mid 3rd and late 4th. Or taking Donte Moncrief in the early 4th given his 5th round ADP.
All of that applied last year and he was WR13? Despite having less competition for targets compared to this year and with the top two RBs going down with injury so they'd have to focus more on the pass. All of that and he could not crack the top 13.New Orleans is going to be a bad d again, brees is a stud qb, they play 10 games on turf, they will play a lot of games from behind, he is the #1 option on a team that will play a lot from behind. He is listed as 14th on this adp, i'd take him above jeffrey (worse qb, will share with k white, conservative coach with new oc), cooper (worse qb), kallen (coming back from injury), mike evans (3 tds last year, but everyones fave bounce back, id rather have cooks).
Just my feel... I like wrs on bad defensive teams with hall of fame qbs
Of the five consensus first round RBs (DJ, Gurley, ADP, Zeke & Miller), I think he has the best shot at being the RB1 for 2016. In any format.Lamar Miller - I think he is going to have an absolutely mammoth year - will take him over any other RB in the draft.
But can Ferguson run between the tackles?Some guys I like earlier than their ADP (PPR):
1. Jordan Reed- Assuming Watkins is gone, I will take Reed mid-late 3rd despite his 4th round ADP.
2. Marvin Jones- He's been a guy I've targeted in the 6th round all offseason. Think his ADP eventually gets up to the 6th but still listed as a 7th rounder.
3. Devin Funchess- Willing to take him 9th round and his ADP is still down in the 11th.
4. Josh Ferguson- Going pretty late, but I like him ~13th round. Nice floor because he should get 3rd down work and he's an injury to a 33-year old away from being a nice RB2.
Not his strength. But he's in the same mold as Dion Lewis, Darren Sproles, Danny Woodhead, etc.But can Ferguson run between the tackles?
Regarding Cooks, did you look at his last 9 games?All of that applied last year and he was WR13? Despite having less competition for targets compared to this year and with the top two RBs going down with injury so they'd have to focus more on the pass. All of that and he could not crack the top 13.
I'd like to point out that Cooks had an astronomically low 8 targets inside the red-zone. Only 4 were caught and only two of those were for TDs. That put him 90th in total red-zone targets in 2015. 90th. As in 89 other RB/WR/TEs had more targets inside the 20 yard line.
At least the other hyped players this year have some sort of reasoning for their increased performance/usage. Nothing has changed for Cooks yet he's being drafted a full round, sometimes two rounds higher than last year. Doesn't make any sense.
It's foolish to draft someone at their ceiling, which is exactly what you're doing taking him around the 12th overall receiver. Guys like Jeffrey, Cooper that are targeted every red zone trip are way better bets for higher upside with similar floors... I mean even Golden Tate will easily surpass 1,000 yards and gets 3-5 times the red zone looks, and you can get him three rounds later.
PPR I've seen Cooks go anywhere from 2.2 to 3.2He's on my radar at 2:12 / 3:1
I like him 3.3 and also Watkins 3.3.Jarvis Landry seems like a guy not getting enough respect out there.