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QB Lamar Jackson, BAL (7 Viewers)
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Ilov80s
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What NFL player isn’t one giant hit away from catastrophe?
I doubt there are any if any 275 pound LBs.
Jackson is 216, he’s not Cam but he’s not tiny either. If he played RB would be people be panicking that he’s on pace for 200 carries? No they would be saying he needs to run more.
I think I disagree a bit here. The shots a Qb like Brady takes in the pocket where a defender can’t go low or high or land with his weight on him and is usually trying to lay a hit a moment after shedding a lineman so they have less momentum are just vastly different than when Lamar takes on a LB head on in traffic. There were a couple very specific plays where usually Lamar would get down or scamper towards the sideline but instead took on the defense and absorbed hard blows. Generally he doesn’t do that and it should help his longevity. I agree it’s vastly different from Cam who constantly sought contact.
Jackson does not have anywhere close to the arm that Vick had and his accuracy isn't that much different than Vicks. They are both fairly erratic.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Exactly. QB's take big hits all the time. When he's running with it he is a lot less likely to get surprised and is a lot more able to protect the critical parts than the guys getting drilled in the face with a helmet or getting their knees rolled up on all the time.
One throwaway sentence about Cam, everything else appeared to be about Lamar. I stand by my statement that punctuation matters.
Ilov80s
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The_Man
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The_Man
Footballguy
The Vick comparisons don't make a lot of sense.. As a 22-year-old, Lamar has a career completion percentage of 62% after 15 starts, and is completing 64% this year. Vick's career percentage was 56%. Vick's career QB rating was 80.4. Lamar's is 90.9, and 95.4 this year. He's already a better passing QB than Vick was, despite not having nearly as strong an arm.
Putting running aside for a minute, who's a QB that's similar to Lamar as a throwing QB? Decent accuracy, not the strongest arm in the world, does a pretty good job of limiting bad decisions.
I'm thinking he might be Chad Pennington. If Chad Pennington could also have happened to run like Gale Sayers. A middle of the pack QB like Pennington who also rushes for 1,300 yards is not the worst thing to be.
If not Pennington, who's another passer Lamar reminds you of?
Putting running aside for a minute, who's a QB that's similar to Lamar as a throwing QB? Decent accuracy, not the strongest arm in the world, does a pretty good job of limiting bad decisions.
I'm thinking he might be Chad Pennington. If Chad Pennington could also have happened to run like Gale Sayers. A middle of the pack QB like Pennington who also rushes for 1,300 yards is not the worst thing to be.
If not Pennington, who's another passer Lamar reminds you of?
mozzy84
Footballguy
did he change his mind? I hope you beat him because of it. Never ever bench this guy, and be thankful if you got him!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He did, but I’m still gonna win. My team blew up this week. Also, he thought it’d be smart to bench Howard’s 18 points instead.
BINGBING
Footballguy
Give it time. I've seen this type of post many times. Vince Young, David Carr, Tebow, Bob Griffin and the latest....Winston. I came out victorious on all of them.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I think Jackson has much better arm strength than Pennington ever had.
He is more efficient than most of the QB I might compare him to but not as efficient as DeShaun Watson or Russell Wilson were as passers in their young careers.
He is on pace for 476 attempts 306 completions 3626 yards 24 TD 10 interceptions.
This isn't that far off from DeShaun Watsons second season of 505 attempts 345 completions 4165 yards 26 TD 9 interceptions.
The main difference is a higher completion percentage and adjusted yards per attempt being better for Watson than what Jackson has been doing so far.
Watson had Hopkins to work with. I am not exactly seeing a weapon like this on the Ravens right now.
I think he can be as good as Watson as a passer while also being a better runner. He has improved tremendously from what he did as a rookie.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Awful lot of negative here for a guy that put up 37 against the greatest defense of all time.
Koya
Footballguy
Dizzy
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Dizzy
Footballguy
30 against a team that played the weakest schedule of all time.
I think we all knew about Lamar Jackson... Patriots defense being middle of the road is probably surprising to some.
The_Man
Footballguy
As a Ravens fan, I hope you’re right but I do think people give him credit for more arm strength than he actually has. For example, throwing an out route to the boundary from the far hash is not in his repertoire.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
You have surely seen more of him than I have. I take your word for it.
Part of that could just be mechanics or something he improves on still.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
First time watching a whole game of his really. He’s a lot of fun and I thoroughly enjoyed last night’s beat down of the most “historic” awesomest defense ever!
BINGBING
Footballguy
Most of them were all were incredibly valuable at some point in fantasy. How can you victory lap on Winston? If you bought him as a rookie in dynasty he has put up huge numbers. You know this isn't REAL football right? His bone-headed plays haven't kept him from scoring tons of points.
Shawnky
Footballguy
No you didn't. Being a legend in your own mind doesn't make you a legend. You've been wrong numerous times.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Louisville dude here. In a sense, we are lucky to not have pro teams of our own, as it lets us choose to root for the teams that our favorite alumni join.The_Man said:
When Teddy B was drafted by MN, I switched from the Oilers/Titans (fan since Earl Campbell) to the Vikings. While I still lov the Norsemen (Cook dyno owner), I am now a solid Ravens fans.
Unfortunately, I can't make the trip this week. At least we get good TV coverage here - I guess someone knows we are a good market for Balt now.
Oh, I got LJ in my dynasty too - late 2nd round rookie draft.
Shawnky
Footballguy
Not a Saints fan?Louisville dude here. In a sense, we are lucky to not have pro teams of our own, as it lets us choose to root for the teams that our favorite alumni join.
When Teddy B was drafted by MN, I switched from the Oilers/Titans (fan since Earl Campbell) to the Vikings. While I still lov the Norsemen (Cook dyno owner), I am now a solid Ravens fans.
Unfortunately, I can't make the trip this week. At least we get good TV coverage here - I guess someone knows we are a good market for Balt now.
Oh, I got LJ in my dynasty too - late 2nd round rookie draft.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
I absolutely luvs @SaintsInDome2006!
Oh - the team?
Yeah - I like them too, but when Teddy B got injured, missed time and then eventually traded to a backup position in NO in '18, LJ was drafted by Balt the same year. The way that the Ravens revamped everything to fit him just blew me away. Also, I cannot deny that his initial success has been intoxicating enough that he has become my #1 player - think I need a jersey now.
That said, I am pumped over how well TB did during his time filling in for Brees. I was worried that he may have lost his window for success. Now, when/if he eventually gets the starting role, I am sure I will become an even bigger fan.
Plus, NO is a hella city to visit for a game. Have they scheduled any games during Mardi Gras yet? I could really go fer that!
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SaintsInDome2006
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No games, but hopefully a Super Bowl parade.I absolutely luvs @SaintsInDome2006!
Oh - the team?
Yeah - I like them too, but when Teddy B got injured, missed time and then eventually traded to a backup position in NO in '18, LJ was drafted by Balt the same year. The way that the Ravens revamped everything to fit him just blew me away. Also, I cannot deny that his initial success has been intoxicating enough that he has become my #1 player - think I need a jersey now.
That said, I am pumped over how well TB did during his time filling in for Brees. I was worried that he may have lost his window for success. Now, when/if he eventually gets the starting role, I am sure I will become an even bigger fan.
Plus, NO is a hella city to visit for a game. Have they scheduled any games during Mardi Gras yet? I could really go fer that!
Teddy won over the city. Dude’s a backup and they were chanting his name in the Dome. Tears-inducing.
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The_Man
Footballguy
In Week 2, the only 3 markets in the country to show the Cardinals-Ravens game were Phoenix, Baltimore and Louisville.
The_Man
Footballguy
Lamar just had weekly media availability.
On being named AFC Offensive Player of the Week for the second time this year: "That's pretty dope, but I'm just trying to win."
On suddenly getting lots of national media attention and talk about possibly being MVP: "If I'm watching TV and that comes on, I'm gonna turn the channel."
On being named AFC Offensive Player of the Week for the second time this year: "That's pretty dope, but I'm just trying to win."
On suddenly getting lots of national media attention and talk about possibly being MVP: "If I'm watching TV and that comes on, I'm gonna turn the channel."
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
ADP of 106, I was lucky enough to get him at 126. Value either way.
The Frankman
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Apparently now officially questionable for Sunday.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Fantasy sites mark him questionable now because he didn't practice. I read an illness. Hopefully not mono!Apparently now officially questionable for Sunday.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I read the lockers are next to each-other. Lamar deserves a sick day after that W last week. Hopefully he's back and ready to roll tomorrow.
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