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Two 15 yarders and you're out. Sounds right to me too.
Can you give an example of something that would get a player ejected under this rule that would really not be their fault?
Something like this.
Or a simple rebuttal for a previous action. While probably their fault. Like the Packers/Vikings game last night when the O-lineman pushed Sedayjo (sp?) for leaping at Rodgers when he already crossed the Endzone. While that is technically his fault, that shouldnt have resulted in an unsportsmanlike misconduct. If that was his 2nd offense, he would of been gone. Not right imo.
pretty much summed things up..
Yeah, that is a different topic. I can't stand most of those things. This is a game, right? For fun? Pretty soon the Lambeau Leap will be outlawed.
That's my only issue with it - because it's a judgement call, it can have inconsistencies from penalty to penalty and crew to crew. It can also have a huge impact on the outcome of a game if a key player is ejected. And as mentioned, when it's for taunting (what used to just be called "celebrating a TD") it's especially bad.
Or, you know, just let them celebrate a little. Like when football was fun. Doesn't need to be a group celebration - but who among us doesn't miss the end zone dances and celebrations? Pretty sure it's a very small minority of people saying "thank god they got rid of those end zone dances! Shameful I say - we outlawed dancing in this town 20 years ago when little Timmy Smithers tried to dance and choked on his own tongue and died. Timmy is dead now because of dancing, so we can't have any dancing in the end zone! One time a player pulled a Sharpie out of his sock and signed a ball with it! Can you imagine!"
I think you just figured it out - tokenism.
All plays should be reviewed at the ref/ump sees them at game speed. Also include helmet to helmet hits. So many of the helmet to helmet hits look different when you watch them frame by frame. At game speed the offensive player often ducks at the last second causing the helmet to helmet. Frame by frame it looks like defender should pull back but that is impossible at game speed.
Yeah, but in your example the pitcher who threw that beanball will likely get ejected if it's obvious it was intentional.
True. But sometimes they don't care. Baseball does a great job of policing itself. Football doesn't. So the league had to step in. I was waiting for Don Cornelius to show up after a touchdown soon and see the entire offense do the Soul Train line dance.
This. Ejection after two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties is fine, provided that they correctly define what constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct. Excessive celebration can be a penalty but should not contribute towards possible ejection.
I feel it should be ejection after two PHYSICAL unsportsmanlike penalties (for safety reasons)...not the taunting, or talking, or the celebrating variety of penalties.
I could probably get behind some clear taunting like this counting (even though college): http://gifrific.com/dj-swearinger-big-hit-on-andre-ellington/
How about next time you burp, I come to your office and fine you one hundred thousand dollars?
Terrible analogy. As far as I know, players aren't fined for burping in the NFL. It's for taunting or acting like an idiot.
100% his fault. And if it was his second one, it would have been the second time he 100% was at fault.
The game is not brutal enough for you? Its Week 2 and several players are already beat to ####. Some didn't even make it out of the pre-season. Far from two hand touch, IMO.
Consider the players constantly try to one-up each other. If taunted to the point a player really snaps, maybe he deliberately injuries another player as payback? I think this is an effort to prevent the game (which (as you state) is already brutal enough) from becoming too personal and devolving into more violence on the field than is already part of the natural playing of the game.
yeah its kinda too late n put ur sorrys in a sack come monday morning aint it?
Not specifically calling you out here, but there's been a lot of "well this could lead to this!" type of talk with the taunting penalties. In all of the NFL games I've watched this season where that penalty has been handed out, it's always been a clear case of either taunting or excessive celebrating. It's pretty easy to define and it's exceedingly easy not to do.
