fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Are you really saying you can’t see the distinction between these two situations?
I understand that one is a nobody who it's easy to throw overboard, while the other is a political figure that people are invested in and feel the need to defend. But that's not a very helpful distinction. It's better to focus on what they have in common -- both people thought it was a good idea to fabricate their ethnic background, and they both carved out an academic career based at least in part on that fake identity. That's a bad thing.
Well, I regard the comparison as pretty ridiculous, and it has nothing to do with the fact that Warren is well-known and I had never heard of Jessica Krug before a few days ago. As best as I can tell:
Krug was just a total complete fraud from the start, living essentially a double life. She grew up as a Jewish kid in the suburbs, was never given any indication that she was Black or Latin. At some point she decided to make this whole thing up out of whole cloth. Her entire academic career was in African-American studies and other related fields in which she deliberately and purposefully misrepresented herself to every person she met -- students, faculty, etc. She changed her story multiple times, and talked about growing up in the projects, and apparently used her perch to actually criticize black kids for not being sufficiently race conscious. There are videos of her from like just a few months ago with a fake Latina/black accent. When she revealed herself a few days ago (because she was going to get caught), people were shocked to learn that she was actually white.
By contrast, the evidence is pretty clear that Warren had been told this family story that she had a somewhat distant Cherokee relative. She and her siblings grew up believing they were part Cherokee. And it seems like this relative actually did exist, so it's not like the story was a total lie. And honestly, tribal ancestry in this country is very different from black ancestry- - many prominent leaders in the tribal community are significantly less than 50% Native American blood. Yes, Warren did list herself as Cherokee in some places and it's possible that she could have received a leg up as a result. But she wasn't running around calling herself Sitting Eagle, smoking a peace pipe and talking about rain dances and teaching classes in Native American History. That would have been the equivalent of what Krug was doing. She was a bankruptcy professor, and apparently a very good one that became well known due to her scholarship, not because she had described herself as Cherokee. When her story broke back when she was running for Senate, people were surprised to learn that she had claimed Cherokee ancestry. The people that she taught and worked with were generally supportive of her.
Sure, I think Warren shouldn't have ever described herself that way, and I have no problem with people that are mildly critical of her over that decision. But these things aren't always so simple, especially back then when people weren't generally allowed to identify as multiple races. I've mentioned this before here but my kids are 1/4 black. The older one is applying to college this year. Is it fair for him to say he's black on his college applications? On the one hand, if you think affirmative action is some attempt to correct past wrongs, maybe he should. After all, his grandfather grew up in segregated Alabama, wasn't allowed to attend the University of Alabama, had to suffer through all sorts of discrimination and misfortune so that his children and grandchildren could have opportunities he didn't. On the other hand, my kid doesn't identify as black, he doesn't look black, he hasn't really suffered racial discrimination, he's had lots of advantages that other kids of lots of races didn't. So in some sense it feels like cheating for him to claim he's black. But even that's a little complicated, because knowing everything that I've just said, would the colleges he's applying to actually want him to say he's black? I think the answer to that is probably yes. If he was your kid, what would you tell him to do and why?
Warren might have made some mistakes. But putting her on the same level as Jessica Krug seems like an enormous stretch. It's like when Trump defenders say stuff like "Obama lied too!" Well, yeah, he wasn't always 100% honest about everything. But it's just not anywhere near the same level.