FF Ninja 2,784 Posted October 18 6 minutes ago, Jello_Biafra said: Don't think you'll find many people trading him for just a late 1st. Conversely, I don't think you'll find many people willing to pay more than that for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hispeedthinmint 133 Posted October 18 Price check on David Johnson & Diggs in PPR? DJ owner told me he'd take Diggs straight up for him. Not sure if good or bad deal for me. Start 2 RBs, 3 WR & 2 flex. I'm good at WR, but nothing behind D. Henry & Fournette... I'm also a competitor now so not in rebuild mode either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jello_Biafra 417 Posted October 18 3 hours ago, FF Ninja said: Conversely, I don't think you'll find many people willing to pay more than that for him. I paid a 2021 1st and 2nd for him last week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAG 152 Posted October 18 1 hour ago, hispeedthinmint said: Price check on David Johnson & Diggs in PPR? DJ owner told me he'd take Diggs straight up for him. Not sure if good or bad deal for me. Start 2 RBs, 3 WR & 2 flex. I'm good at WR, but nothing behind D. Henry & Fournette... I'm also a competitor now so not in rebuild mode either. Given the ppr, the fact that you’re strong at WR, and that you’re a competitor now I like DJ. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 6,130 Posted October 19 In a no-cap superflex I had just 2 picks left for 2020 & 4 for 2021. It was a startup dynasty & I had to deal a lot of picks to fill out my roster due to accidentally spending 75% of my budget on 3/28 players. i lost Mahomes for a couple weeks (hopefully that’s all) and had BYEs coming up. Plus Brady is my QB2 & who really knows how much longer he’ll play. So I dealt my 2020 3rd & 4th (from another team with a bad record this year) and 2021 2nd + Larry Fitz for Derick Carr. Carr owner had 4 QBs. Felt like a good time since TyWill is out & he wasn’t high on Carr to begin with. I figured he’d counter for more picks or maybe another player, but he accepted outright. hopefully that’ll bridge the gap until Mahomes comes back, and gives me one less headache for next year if ready retires, assuming the Raiders stick with Carr. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce Guy 6,130 Posted October 19 5 hours ago, hispeedthinmint said: Price check on David Johnson & Diggs in PPR? DJ owner told me he'd take Diggs straight up for him. Not sure if good or bad deal for me. Start 2 RBs, 3 WR & 2 flex. I'm good at WR, but nothing behind D. Henry & Fournette... I'm also a competitor now so not in rebuild mode either. They’re pretty even. With those two RBs it wouldn’t hurt to get DJ. selling high off Diggs big game, buying now on DJ’s sprained ankle. if you’re indeed deep at WR that’s a great trade. Not without risk as DJ seems a little fragile, but I’d probably pull the trigger. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hispeedthinmint 133 Posted October 19 (edited) I just moved Diggs for David Johnson in dynasty PPR & now the Zeke owner offered me his Zeke & Diontae Johnson for my D. Adams & DJ. I declined. Too much even for Zeke IMO Edited October 19 by hispeedthinmint Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hispeedthinmint 133 Posted October 20 On 10/19/2019 at 8:36 AM, hispeedthinmint said: I just moved Diggs for David Johnson in dynasty PPR & now the Zeke owner offered me his Zeke & Diontae Johnson for my D. Adams & DJ. I declined. Too much even for Zeke IMO Should I have taken it? lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Dan 4,909 Posted October 23 Where do people see Corey Davis? Was offered Darrell Henderson for him in ppr. Ran a twitter poll and it came back 67/33% on favor of Davis... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 23 39 minutes ago, Dr. Dan said: Where do people see Corey Davis? Was offered Darrell Henderson for him in ppr. Ran a twitter poll and it came back 67/33% on favor of Davis... I’m not sold, personally. Last week was promising - and there’s certainly potential there - but he hasn’t won me over yet. I think Henderson is in the same ballpark, in terms of value. I could see myself preferring either guy depending on my roster. In a vacuum I think Henderson is more likely to be a top 24 dynasty asset one day, while Davis is more likely to stick long term. If I’m in a position to gamble on upside, I’d go with Henderson. If my WR core is lacking, I’d probably play it safe with Davis. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 23 On 10/20/2019 at 12:06 PM, hispeedthinmint said: Should I have taken it? lol I probably would have passed as well. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFS171 710 Posted October 23 32 minutes ago, Concept Coop said: I’m not sold, personally. Last week was promising - and there’s certainly potential there - but he hasn’t won me over yet. I think Henderson is in the same ballpark, in terms of value. I could see myself preferring either guy depending on my roster. In a vacuum I think Henderson is more likely to be a top 24 dynasty asset one day, while Davis is more likely to stick long term. If I’m in a position to gamble on upside, I’d go with Henderson. If my WR core is lacking, I’d probably play it safe with Davis. As the guy who made the offer for Davis, I find myself very torn to be honest. Davis and I have such history where I bought in high in his rookie draft and held for a long, long time ... and finally punted this year. And it looked like the right decision until last week. Now I’m wondering if the problem really was Mariota or if that’s much too linear to be the actual solution. Like I said, I made that offer to @Dr. Dan and I’m still torn on it, to the point that I pulled it down to reconsider. I could’ve swayed either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Dan 4,909 Posted October 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Concept Coop said: I’m not sold, personally. Last week was promising - and there’s certainly potential there - but he hasn’t won me over yet. I think Henderson is in the same ballpark, in terms of value. I could see myself preferring either guy depending on my roster. In a vacuum I think Henderson is more likely to be a top 24 dynasty asset one day, while Davis is more likely to stick long term. If I’m in a position to gamble on upside, I’d go with Henderson. If my WR core is lacking, I’d probably play it safe with Davis. Henderson was extremely disappointing to the point where I'm considering selling where I own him while his value is still somewhat high. Davis' issue has been targets, where Mariota would target Walker and Humphries. Tannehill is targeting Davis and Brown, and results are much better. Davis' floor used to be 2 or 3 points (or a zero week 1). Now I think his floor is much improved if the targets continue to come. I am a playoff team and could probably use Davis more than Henderson, as he seems to be back to 3rd fiddle after Brown is healthy. I've also always bought into the "have a strong wr group" for sustained dynasty success. RBs are so volatile and short term it doesnt make as much sense to have your absolute strength in rb. That proves to be holding true for my teams this year as I am strong at wr, hurting a bit at rb in different ways in each league, but finding great success. Davis has had a late break out, which calling this a breakout season is too early, but he is showing good signs when given volume. If he has another strong week I think its safe to say Mariota was the problem. Then hes a definite asset for me. Edited October 23 by Dr. Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFS171 710 Posted October 23 I think you could similarly argue the problem with Henderson is situation, not talent related. The Rams OL is awful. Getting pushed around by the Falcons is damning. He also has to wait for his opportunity behind Gurley who’s already missed one game with a “thigh” injury. I believe he’s passed Brown, though obviously opinions will vary there. Henderson has looked explosive when given space to run. I don’t think one game where neither Henderson or Gurley could move because of penetration through the middle is enough to write the ending to Henderson’s career. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 23 41 minutes ago, JFS171 said: As the guy who made the offer for Davis, I find myself very torn to be honest. Davis and I have such history where I bought in high in his rookie draft and held for a long, long time ... and finally punted this year. And it looked like the right decision until last week. Now I’m wondering if the problem really was Mariota or if that’s much too linear to be the actual solution. Like I said, I made that offer to @Dr. Dan and I’m still torn on it, to the point that I pulled it down to reconsider. I could’ve swayed either way. I agree - the next week or two will tell us a lot about Davis (and Henderson). What did you find disappointing, @Dr. Dan? I watched both games and thought Henderson looked solid. Last week was bad for both of the backs as the offensive line was pretty bad. But to my eye Henderson looked better than Gurley. (Granted, I’m not sure what that’s worth at this point.) I’ll likely try buying if Henderson owners are getting impatient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 6,883 Posted October 23 I am torn on Davis in the league where I have him. I want to believe but I feel like this is one of those situations where Sunday evening we're all kicking rocks wondering why the hell we didn't finally sell high on him when there was a ray of hope like we kept telling ourselves we would. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 23 Are you buying or selling the sustainability of these breakouts? Proposed dynasty value in (). Chark (top 15 WR) Sutton (top 15 WR) Godwin (top 3 WR) Kupp (top 10 WR) McLaurin (top 15 WR) Andrews (top 5 TE) Hooper (top 5 TE) Waller (top 5 TE) Jackson (top 3 QB) Jacobs (top 10 RB) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gally 2,260 Posted October 23 16 minutes ago, Concept Coop said: Are you buying or selling the sustainability of these breakouts? Proposed dynasty value in (). Chark (top 15 WR) Not quite...….buying top 30 WR Sutton (top 15 WR) Not quite...….Buying top 24 WR Godwin (top 3 WR) Not Buying top 3......I would go top 15 WR Kupp (top 10 WR) A little too high. buying Top 15 WR McLaurin (top 15 WR) No ……...Buying Top 30 WR Andrews (top 5 TE) Buying Hooper (top 5 TE) Buying (but think more like top 8) Waller (top 5 TE) Buying Jackson (top 3 QB) Buying Jacobs (top 10 RB) Not quite......Buying top 15 RB 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zyphros 1,413 Posted October 23 2 hours ago, Concept Coop said: Are you buying or selling the sustainability of these breakouts? Proposed dynasty value in (). Chark (top 15 WR) Sutton (top 15 WR) Godwin (top 3 WR) Kupp (top 10 WR) McLaurin (top 15 WR) Andrews (top 5 TE) Hooper (top 5 TE) Waller (top 5 TE) Jackson (top 3 QB) Jacobs (top 10 RB) Top15 for Chark? No chance I'm buying that high. Nice breakout, but I need more from that offense in general to trust a top15 guy. Sutton same case, good breakout, he's undervalued in a lot of place, but Flacco leaves a lot to be desired Godwin, absolutely buying him sustaining that value Kupp, maybe? I don't hate the idea of top10, I have him just outside (WR11) but that seems a bit questionable if teams keep showing ways to stop the Rams in general Top15 for McLaurin is another I don't believe in. Like the player a lot, love what I've seen, buy high now, wait a year and maybe you get something out of it when Guice and Haskins are there to improve the overall team. How does Washington not address WR more in 2020 though? Andrews, not buying. He disappears too often for me to say top5 but he's close. Hooper, I'll buy that. Hooper joins Kittle, Kelce, Engram, and Henry as the top5 dynasty TE's. Waller, not buying. Waller just on the outside looking in. Jackson as a top3 QB? I just can't force myself to buy it. Steelers fan here, guilty. My bias is showing. Jacobs is a top10 RB in dynasty, for now. 2020 is when a few rookies push him down a little. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FF Ninja 2,784 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, Concept Coop said: Are you buying or selling the sustainability of these breakouts? Proposed dynasty value in (). Chark (top 15 WR) Sutton (top 15 WR) Godwin (top 3 WR) Kupp (top 10 WR) McLaurin (top 15 WR) Andrews (top 5 TE) Hooper (top 5 TE) Waller (top 5 TE) Jackson (top 3 QB) Jacobs (top 10 RB) If I could legitimately get those prices, I would sell most of those players at that dynasty value you listed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wgoldsph 378 Posted October 23 My Ebron ind te (2yrs) His Eifert (1yr) plus 3rd round pick. I'm at 2-5 and basically am trying to stockpile as many dart throws as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 23 3 minutes ago, FF Ninja said: If I could legitimately get those prices, I would sell most of those players at that dynasty value you listed. I think those are about the prices you'd have to pay to acquire these guys right now. Top 15 sounds really high for the WRs, but take a look at the names in that range - Diggs, Thielen, Cooks, Hilton, Golladay, Lockett - I'd take Chark and Sutton over some of those guys. (I haven't done my homework yet on McLaurin.) To answer my own question, I'd buy Godwin, Sutton, all 3 TEs, Jackson, and Jacobs at those prices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wgoldsph 378 Posted October 23 3 hours ago, Gally said: Who do you consider a top 10wr if not Godwin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FF Ninja 2,784 Posted October 23 10 minutes ago, Concept Coop said: I think those are about the prices you'd have to pay to acquire these guys right now. Top 15 sounds really high for the WRs, but take a look at the names in that range - Diggs, Thielen, Cooks, Hilton, Golladay, Lockett - I'd take Chark and Sutton over some of those guys. (I haven't done my homework yet on McLaurin.) To answer my own question, I'd buy Godwin, Sutton, all 3 TEs, Jackson, and Jacobs at those prices. As always, in a seller's market you'll have to pay a premium if you're trying to pry a player away from a team that wasn't shopping him, but if you were to be selling RBs to a team with extra WRs in need of RBs, I don't think you'd have to pay a top 15 WR price for Chark, McLaurin, or Sutton. But most importantly, if you were to do a startup right now, I would not expect to see those guys be taken in the top 15 of their position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 23 (edited) 22 minutes ago, FF Ninja said: As always, in a seller's market you'll have to pay a premium if you're trying to pry a player away from a team that wasn't shopping him, but if you were to be selling RBs to a team with extra WRs in need of RBs, I don't think you'd have to pay a top 15 WR price for Chark, McLaurin, or Sutton. But most importantly, if you were to do a startup right now, I would not expect to see those guys be taken in the top 15 of their position. Chark and Sutton will be going well before WR15 in off-season startup drafts if their current production holds. It's certainly reasonable to bet against that happening, but that startups aren't taking place right now is kind of the point of the exercise. In general, if you're buying these guys right now it's because you're sold and are paying accordingly. Edited October 23 by Concept Coop 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gally 2,260 Posted October 23 1 hour ago, wgoldsph said: Who do you consider a top 10wr if not Godwin? These are all guys I would want over Godwin (in no particular order) Hopkins, Thomas, OBJ, Adams, Thielen, Hill, Julio, Cooper, Allen, JuJu, Evans, Kupp…….. I am not saying Godwin can't beat out any of those guys but I would rather have those other guys over him....It's a toss up for me between Godwin, JuJu, Evans, Allen, Kupp, Thielen, Cooper, Julio……...so I guess I have them all kind of in the same tier so to speak. The other guys would be a tier above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankmoody 3,174 Posted October 23 6 hours ago, Concept Coop said: Are you buying or selling the sustainability of these breakouts? Proposed dynasty value in (). Chark (top 15 WR) Want to sell but can't argue with the eyes. Grudgingly buy expecting the floor to cave in. Sutton (top 15 WR) Buy all in Godwin (top 3 WR) Sell Kupp (top 10 WR) Buy McLaurin (top 15 WR) Torn and probably can't be unbiased with my Scarlet and Gray goggles on Andrews (top 5 TE) Buy buy buy Hooper (top 5 TE) Sell but not discounting him Waller (top 5 TE) Buy Jackson (top 3 QB) Buy all in Jacobs (top 10 RB) Buy, situation is too good and his talent is sufficient. I'd comp him at Curtis Martin, talented compiler that just keeps getting opportunities to compile. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just Win Baby 2,122 Posted October 26 (edited) On 10/23/2019 at 6:00 PM, Concept Coop said: Chark and Sutton will be going well before WR15 in off-season startup drafts if their current production holds Intuitively I did not agree with this, so I took a look. First, here are the current top 15 WRs in total points (1 PPR): Thomas Godwin Diggs Kupp Cooper Chark Julio Hopkins Allen Lockett Edelman Sutton Thielen Robinson McLaurin Here is the current top 15 in PPG (1 PPR): Godwin Thomas Kupp Cooper Hilton Jackson Chark Robinson Julio Hopkins Allen Ross Diggs Evans Lockett Chark shows up on both of those lists, but Sutton is #20 in PPG. That is 19 total names in those lists above. That group does not include these notable WRs, all of whom were top 15 in ADP as of 9/4/19: Adams - ADP 2 Beckham - ADP 5 Juju - ADP 6 Hill - ADP 7 Antonio Brown - ADP 8 Thielen - ADP 10 Cooks - ADP 15 So we have at least 26 candidates for next year's top 15 startup WRs, along with any rookies who warrant top 15 consideration. I'm not familiar with that rookie class yet, so will ignore them for now. As of today, I expect these guys are locks for top 15 startup value next year, barring catastrophic injury and/or off field events (in no particular order): Thomas - top 2 on both lists despite Brees injury; 26 years old Godwin - top 2 on both lists despite presence of Evans and subpar QB play; 23 years old Kupp - top 4 on both lists despite presence of Cooks and Woods; 26 years old Cooper - top 5 on both lists; 25 years old Julio - top 10 on both lists; on pace for 6th straight season over 1400 receiving yards; 30 years old Hopkins - top 10 on both lists; finished top 4 in 3 of previous 4 seasons; expect he will finish 2019 higher than his current ranking; 27 years old Adams - numbers currently down due to transition to new offense and injury that will not linger into future seasons; 26 years old Beckham - numbers currently down due to transition to new offense; expect he will finish 2019 higher than his current ranking; expect Kitchens will be gone, creating optimism for improved offense; 26 years old Juju - only 6 games in and has played 4.5 games with QB2 Rudolph and QB3 Hodges; expect he will finish 2019 higher than his current ranking; expect Roethlisberger will return, creating optimism for improved offense; 22 (!) years old Hill - left game 1 early due to injury, skewing his numbers; his PPG in the 2 full games he has played rank him #3 right now, and that is despite Mahomes playing at less than 100% in those games and QB2 Moore playing most of 1 of them; 25 years old I suspect that could be next year's top 10 right there. In order for Chark and Sutton to be drafted "well before" top 15, they would pretty much have to be the next 2 choices. Meaning they would have to be drafted ahead of all of these guys (in no particular order): Evans Diggs Allen Lockett Thelien Hilton Robinson All rookies All older veterans (e.g., Edelman, Green, Brown) Any other young WR who has a strong performance the rest of 2019 (e.g., Marquise Brown) I suppose it could happen, but I'm surprised at the confidence of your claim. Edited October 26 by Just Win Baby 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Dan 4,909 Posted October 26 On 10/23/2019 at 5:00 PM, Concept Coop said: Chark and Sutton will be going well before WR15 in off-season startup drafts if their current production holds. It's certainly reasonable to bet against that happening, but that startups aren't taking place right now is kind of the point of the exercise. In general, if you're buying these guys right now it's because you're sold and are paying accordingly. agree. two under rated guys for 2020 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 26 If Chark finishes with the 1,300/11 that he’s on pace for, he’ll go ahead of Kupp, Julio, and Adams, too. Or should. Sutton might need to pick it up just a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnSKINS26 4,759 Posted October 26 2 hours ago, Concept Coop said: If Chark finishes with the 1,300/11 that he’s on pace for, he’ll go ahead of Kupp, Julio, and Adams, too. Or should. Sutton might need to pick it up just a bit. Adams seems like the type of guy who will hang onto a high ranking despite the injury plagued year, unless the Packers do something drastic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted October 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said: Adams seems like the type of guy who will hang onto a high ranking despite the injury plagued year, unless the Packers do something drastic I don’t disagree. But those numbers at 23, coupled with the athletic profile and solid draft capital - Chark is going to be a high end dynasty asset if he can keep it up. I think plenty of owners will take Chark and the 3.5 years. I could certainly be wrong, and I do agree that Adams’ value will hold relatively steady. Edited October 26 by Concept Coop 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeter23 37 Posted October 29 Is this where the dynasty folks hang out at FBG? I'm running some startup mock drafts. If you want a spot, PM me your email. Should be something good to discuss in here. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B. Goode 132 Posted November 11 I hear there's a 12 team ppr league with an opening to start immediately. Can PM me if you haven't hears about this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashem 52 Posted November 13 Price check on Chris Carson? Start 2 RB, 1 PPR league. Took over a team that looks like it's 2 years away from being 2 years away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 241 Posted November 13 9 hours ago, Ashem said: Price check on Chris Carson? Start 2 RB, 1 PPR league. Took over a team that looks like it's 2 years away from being 2 years away. I made an offer 3 weeks ago on Carson... 12 Team Dynasty PPR 1/2/2/1 & 2 Flex Note: Offer was made when Kamara was out and Freeman was healthy... and they needed RB2 help (their RB depth = Ballage & Hines) Offered ATL RB D Freeman & NOS RB L Murray and a 3rd (late) for Carson ... rejected and no counter or feedback. They have since lost 3 in a row. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bicycle_seat_sniffer 4,636 Posted November 13 what do we think about juju vs sutton/chark types rest of season? are we sure ben comes back? long term is juju a slam dunk over those types?.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAG 152 Posted November 13 38 minutes ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said: what do we think about juju vs sutton/chark types rest of season? are we sure ben comes back? long term is juju a slam dunk over those types?.... Good question. All 3 arguably have long term QB questions. Even if Ben comes back next year we have to ask what life after his career is like for JuJu. I still have JuJu above Chark and Sutton but I’m guessing his value will vary widely based on how individuals in our leagues view his talent. Recency probably means you’d have to offer JuJu almost straight up for guys in the Chark/Sutton tier; at least that’s what I’d expect in my leagues. I don’t feel comfortable selling at that price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bicycle_seat_sniffer 4,636 Posted November 13 10 minutes ago, DAG said: Good question. All 3 arguably have long term QB questions. Even if Ben comes back next year we have to ask what life after his career is like for JuJu. I still have JuJu above Chark and Sutton but I’m guessing his value will vary widely based on how individuals in our leagues view his talent. Recency probably means you’d have to offer JuJu almost straight up for guys in the Chark/Sutton tier; at least that’s what I’d expect in my leagues. I don’t feel comfortable selling at that price. thanks for the response....im debating an offer in a league... seems like a no brainer.....but yet i hesitate to pull the trigger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hispeedthinmint 133 Posted November 13 Who has more value, long term, in PPR; Malcolm Brown or Josh Reynolds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concept Coop 1,526 Posted November 13 2 hours ago, bicycle_seat_sniffer said: what do we think about juju vs sutton/chark types rest of season? are we sure ben comes back? long term is juju a slam dunk over those types?.... Rest of season I think Chark and Sutton are clear upgrades over Juju. In terms of dynasty value, I don’t think it’s a slam dunk, but still prefer Juju. He’s younger, has proven more, and has more trade value, should I decide to move him in the near future. I expect Ben to come back, and the Steelers to put more around Rudolph if not. I think Juju’s situation is likely to improve next season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghostguy123 3,021 Posted November 13 Mentioned this in the carson thread but may as well ask here. What do we think Carson's startup value is right now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Captain 425 Posted November 13 (edited) Thoughts on Guice value right now in non-ppr dynasty? Value could either jump or decline once he starts getting touches so if you wanted to sell before he hits the field what would it take? Edited November 13 by The Captain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeBaGeL 6,883 Posted November 13 37 minutes ago, ghostguy123 said: Mentioned this in the carson thread but may as well ask here. What do we think Carson's startup value is right now? Here are some mocks done within the last week that have him at 4.3 on average. That seems a little low to me. http://mizelle.net/mfl/2019/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghostguy123 3,021 Posted November 13 14 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said: Here are some mocks done within the last week that have him at 4.3 on average. That seems a little low to me. http://mizelle.net/mfl/2019/ Yes it does 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 4,415 Posted November 13 I own Barkley and pretty much vowed to never trade him. But, the Kamara owner is sniffing around and he owns 4 first round picks next year, three of them will be mid-late and one will be early-mid. What's the consensus on Barkley's value at this point. I cant believe that I would find myself turning down Kamara and two 2020 firsts, but I'm not sure I could pull the trigger there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie048 241 Posted November 13 2 hours ago, The Captain said: Thoughts on Guice value right now in non-ppr dynasty? Value could either jump or decline once he starts getting touches so if you wanted to sell before he hits the field what would it take? Guice (IMO) short term is not going to help any competitive team this year... Wash Offense is not firing on the right cylinders.... Long Term - I think they can repair things to for him to be a valuable RB2 but the Off/OL limitations cap his value. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkrull 392 Posted November 13 1 hour ago, kutta said: I own Barkley and pretty much vowed to never trade him. But, the Kamara owner is sniffing around and he owns 4 first round picks next year, three of them will be mid-late and one will be early-mid. What's the consensus on Barkley's value at this point. I cant believe that I would find myself turning down Kamara and two 2020 firsts, but I'm not sure I could pull the trigger there. Ask for another 1st, but I'd have no problem accepting Kamara and 2 2020 1sts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutta 4,415 Posted November 13 7 minutes ago, tkrull said: Ask for another 1st, but I'd have no problem accepting Kamara and 2 2020 1sts. There's been no offer yet, just some chatting back and forth. I'm really struggling with this one. Thanks for your thoughts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tangfoot 1,380 Posted November 13 Can't see any Kamara owner adding a pair of 1sts to "upgrade" to Saquon. They shouldn't be that far apart. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites