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1 hour ago, Rodrigo Duterte said:

If anybody is interested in hedging their Hill bets, Wooderson is banking on him going off for a 100 and a Touch.  MINIMUM.

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16 minutes ago, psychobillies said:

That's balls.

No...it's stupid.....but lucky.....return league as well.....yes!

And the only ballsy move would have been typing this before the game started...lol

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2 hours ago, Rodrigo Duterte said:

If anybody is interested in hedging their Hill bets, Wooderson is banking on him going off for a 100 and a Touch.  MINIMUM.

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30 minutes ago, King of the Jungle said:

Started over Julio.....starting to feel some relief!

Awesome. Love it.

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25 minutes ago, King of the Jungle said:

No...it's stupid.....but lucky.....return league as well.....yes!

And the only ballsy move would have been typing this before the game started...lol

Isn't he a WR1 in a return league?

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2 hours ago, osubuckeyeman said:

I decided to leave him on the bench for Hightower. Just can't get a good read on Hill. Thursday night game on a frozen field worries me. 

I can see this being a Spencer Ware and Murray love fest type of game. If I'm wrong,then so be it. 

 

Yep, I was wrong. 14.50 in the first half. It's been one of those years.

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Just now, Rove! said:

Isn't he a WR1 in a return league?

He sure is.  It's still ballsy to start him over Julio.  Although he's likely not starting him over Julio, there has to be someone else that Julio is better than.

Travis Kelce was on Sirius XM NFL in preseason and they asked him who the breakout player was going to be.  Kelce absolutely RAVED about Hill.  Called him the most dynamic player he's ever seen.  I made sure to grab him in all three of my dynasty leagues for minimum bids, so I'm loving this.

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17 minutes ago, EBF said:

Tyreek Thrill is good at football.

Holy smokes he's fast.  And good.  Dang I love fast and good players.  He was sitting on my WW for weeks and I didn't grab him!

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1 hour ago, EBF said:

Tyreek Thrill is good at football.

I'm pretty sure it was you who pointed me in his direction this offseason. Thank you, sir!

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I'm  noticing a pattern.  Big week, small week.   Big week, small week.  I wonder if that isn't Reid doing his thing, or just a coincidence.  

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3 hours ago, Rove! said:

Isn't he a WR1 in a return league?

Yep. In a couple leagues tonight he got me almost 30. I started him everywhere. 

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Pretty much started him out of necessity, but happy I didn't get cute and pull him for somebody else.

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If only returns counted in my league. Really pleased although the fumble is annoying. Starting him and Gabriel this week alongside Beckham, so hopefully one of the three properly explodes.

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15 hours ago, dipandglide said:

I like Hill in your spot (not to make this the asst coach forum :D).

I kept him in because I needed a high-ceiling play.  He gave me 27.5 in a return yardage league.

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11 hours ago, Rove! said:

Isn't he a WR1 in a return league?

After last night's game, these are the WR rankings in my return league:

1. Antonio Brown

2. Mike Evans

3. Julio Jones

4. Odell Beckham Jr.

5. Tyreek Hill

Obviously Hill has one more game under his belt than others, but that is still insane.

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3 minutes ago, bud29 said:

After last night's game, these are the WR rankings in my return league:

1. Antonio Brown

2. Mike Evans

3. Julio Jones

4. Odell Beckham Jr.

5. Tyreek Hill

Obviously Hill has one more game under his belt than others, but that is still insane.

Yep, looks similar to my league.  He was sitting around WR12 before this week's games.  Honestly, he's putting up the type of numbers that most expected out of Tyler Lockett this season.

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1 hour ago, IheartGuinness said:

Long term value? Can he be a dependable WR2 in the future? (non-return league)

I'm pretty giddy to own him in PPR & return yards dynasty. With Alex Smith checking down (PPR) and kick returns combined with play-making ability which I think we can say we've seen a sample of now, there's only room to grow at this point. Remember he did this with Maclin back in the lineup last night too, this kid has talent. Got his shot when Maclin got hurt and still found ways to contribute once Maclin returned to action. Whether the shift from KR to full-time WR over time will continue to hold this high of a value, as I'm not ready to call him a WR1 as a pure receiver by any means, will be the tell tale. Would not shock me based on pure talent if he can evolve into a pure WR1, but we have to see before we can make that declaration IMO because it's a big one. Enjoy the ride for the time being, though :thumbup:

 

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1 hour ago, rickyg said:

He is Dante hall.   But better.  

I was thinking T.Y. Hilton...

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21 minutes ago, Rove! said:

I was thinking T.Y. Hilton...

Not getting enough standard offensive targets for the Hilton comparison yet.  He's somewhere on the Austin/Lockett/Hilton continuum, but I think closer to Lockett territory.

Of course, the KC offense holds down his output compared to the Indy offense too.  Could Hill be Hilton if we put him on the Colts?  Maybe but I'm not sold that far yet.

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46 minutes ago, mquinnjr said:

I'm pretty giddy to own him in PPR & return yards dynasty. With Alex Smith checking down (PPR) and kick returns combined with play-making ability which I think we can say we've seen a sample of now, there's only room to grow at this point. Remember he did this with Maclin back in the lineup last night too, this kid has talent. Got his shot when Maclin got hurt and still found ways to contribute once Maclin returned to action. Whether the shift from KR to full-time WR over time will continue to hold this high of a value, as I'm not ready to call him a WR1 as a pure receiver by any means, will be the tell tale. Would not shock me based on pure talent if he can evolve into a pure WR1, but we have to see before we can make that declaration IMO because it's a big one. Enjoy the ride for the time being, though :thumbup:

 

 

Maclin in the line up is different in this context. Maclin's been out for weeks and likely out of synch here in the offense. He only got 3 targets after all. That said, as a Hill owner, I'm liking his upside more and more each week. He's a playmaker on an offense mostly devoid in that department. I'm surprised that Oakland didn't try to angle the punts better in order to keep the ball out of his hands. Del Rio likes to gamble but that's just dumb.

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Nice player to own down the stretch. Even better if you get PPR and ST numbers. KC started a 3 home game run last night which could provide a lot of juice for FF lineups. Love Kelce and Hill and they have proved their value.

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keeping him in one league. 

 

traded him for Demaryius Thomas in the other.  

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2 hours ago, saintfool said:

Maclin in the line up is different in this context. Maclin's been out for weeks and likely out of synch here in the offense. He only got 3 targets after all. That said, as a Hill owner, I'm liking his upside more and more each week. He's a playmaker on an offense mostly devoid in that department. I'm surprised that Oakland didn't try to angle the punts better in order to keep the ball out of his hands. Del Rio likes to gamble but that's just dumb.

I think they did and King just pushed it.  On the TD all of the coverage was playing a left boundary return, but King kicked it to the right hash.  No one was in position to cover that kick.  I don't put that on JDR.

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First playoff game and he earns me 16.8 in standard scoring. 

Maclin's gotta eat into that production, though, because there's a return touchdown that's worth six thrown in there.

But his standard over the past few weeks looks pretty good.  

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Just now, Hankmoody said:

I think they did and King just pushed it.  On the TD all of the coverage was playing a left boundary return, but King kicked it to the right hash.  No one was in position to cover that kick.  I don't put that on JDR.

Yeah, they were directional punting most of the night as far as I noticed.  

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4 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

He's Raghib "Rocket" Ismail reincarnated.

No, Rocket is not dead.

Guy certainly was special at returning KOs. I was at the game in 89 when #1 ND played at #2 Michigan. He returned returned two consecutive kickoffs for TDs that day and ND won 24-19.

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5 hours ago, tangfoot said:

I kept him in because I needed a high-ceiling play.  He gave me 27.5 in a return yardage league.

He's a WR1 in return leagues. Fire him up weekly!

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20 minutes ago, Buzzbait said:

Guy certainly was special at returning KOs. I was at the game in 89 when #1 ND played at #2 Michigan. He returned returned two consecutive kickoffs for TDs that day and ND won 24-19.

I remember that game. My buddy and I watched it while playing Blades of Steel on Nintendo. 

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On 12/9/2016 at 7:40 AM, Arodin said:

Not getting enough standard offensive targets for the Hilton comparison yet.  He's somewhere on the Austin/Lockett/Hilton continuum, but I think closer to Lockett territory.

Of course, the KC offense holds down his output compared to the Indy offense too.  Could Hill be Hilton if we put him on the Colts?  Maybe but I'm not sold that far yet.

Hes way better than lockett in all facets. Needs to learn to run better routes tho. 

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On 12/9/2016 at 2:41 PM, Buzzbait said:

Guy certainly was special at returning KOs. I was at the game in 89 when #1 ND played at #2 Michigan. He returned returned two consecutive kickoffs for TDs that day and ND won 24-19.

I saw Ismail run a 100m dash at my university and he was the fastest man I've ever seen for the first 60m.

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5 minutes ago, Mister CIA said:

Does he go in the 2nd or 3rd round next year?

Not available in my dynasty league :P

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31 minutes ago, Mister CIA said:

Does he go in the 2nd or 3rd round next year?

Cordarrelle Patterson had a similar impact as a rookie. Not comparing the two but I do hope Hill continues to refine his skill set. Sure as heck is exciting to watch and credit to KC for putting him in the right positions to succeed. 

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