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4 hours ago, tricky92 said:

In my leauge, Hill has had 4 single digit point weeks (last season he had 6) and by comparison AB has had none.

Even Emmanuel Sanders has only had 3 single digit weeks.

Must be a strangely scored league...

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3 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said:

Must be a strangely scored league...

.5 PPR. If that's strange, I must be living on a strange planet.

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1 minute ago, tricky92 said:

.5 PPR. If that's strange, I must be living on a strange planet.

I'm in two .5 PPR.  He's only had two games in single digits, not four.  Week 3 and Week 8.

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2 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Wasn't it Harstad who helped dispel the notion that week-to-week consistency matters on it's own in fantasy? Largely, except in extreme cases, points are points at the end of the year and you'll win the same number of games.

But there's actually more value to guys who can also win you the week themselves imo, it's unlikely they'll lose you more games than they'll win you. A WR1 who can "disappoint" and score 12-14 on down weeks is perfectly normal...a guy who can also realistically score 40 any given week is not normal. 

"points are points at the end of the year and you'll win the same number of games."

This is absolutely false.

"But there's actually more value to guys who can also win you the week themselves"

But, I do agree with this.

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Just now, JoeJoe88 said:

I'm in two .5 PPR.  He's only had two games in single digits, not four.  Week 3 and Week 8.

3, 4, 8, 9

Are you counting fractions? We only get a point if a player exceeds the lowest 10th. For instance, 16 rushing yards will only get you a point. In week 9, Tyreek had 9 points, 2 for catches, 6 for receiving, and 1 for rushing.

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Just now, tricky92 said:

3, 4, 8, 9

Are you counting fractions? We only get a point if a player exceeds the lowest 10th. For instance, 16 rushing yards will only get you a point. In week 9, Tyreek had 9 points, 2 for catches, 6 for receiving, and 1 for rushing.

Yeah, that's the difference.  In mine Week 9 he had 10.5.  

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Just now, tricky92 said:

3, 4, 8, 9

Are you counting fractions? We only get a point if a player exceeds the lowest 10th. For instance, 16 rushing yards will only get you a point. In week 9, Tyreek had 9 points, 2 for catches, 6 for receiving, and 1 for rushing.

that's pretty archaic, not using a decimal place 

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3 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

that's pretty archaic, not using a decimal place 

I don't disagree with you, especially since we're already dealing in fractions with catches.

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3 minutes ago, tricky92 said:

I don't disagree with you, especially since we're already dealing in fractions with catches.

 

Holy crap, I had forgotten about the .5 PPR context too. That makes it even weirder. 

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Just now, ConnSKINS26 said:

 

Holy crap, I had forgotten about the .5 PPR context too. That makes it even weirder. 

I'm dealing with some old school dudes in my league (the league has been around forever) so I'm just happy it's .5 PPR and we're using blind bidding waivers! Ha!

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4 minutes ago, tricky92 said:

I'm dealing with some old school dudes in my league (the league has been around forever) so I'm just happy it's .5 PPR and we're using blind bidding waivers! Ha!

Yeah, I would try and get that changed at the next draft party lol.  That's really strange

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15 minutes ago, JoeJoe88 said:

Yeah, I would try and get that changed at the next draft party lol.  That's really strange

I've been trying to get them to tone down the QB scoring as well... but, they aren't having it. I'm sure I'll try again next season.

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3 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Wasn't it Harstad who helped dispel the notion that week-to-week consistency matters on it's own in fantasy? Largely, except in extreme cases, points are points at the end of the year and you'll win the same number of games.

But there's actually more value to guys who can also win you the week themselves imo, it's unlikely they'll lose you more games than they'll win you. A WR1 who can "disappoint" and score 12-14 on down weeks is perfectly normal...a guy who can also realistically score 40 any given week is not normal. 

Agreed. Those are the kinds of players I want on my team, so if some "miss", the others will carry them.

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6 minutes ago, Truebluey said:

Still a WR #1.

In contention for THE #1. At least for being the most dynamic / game breaking.

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You can only hope to contain him...which is probably one of the hardest things to do

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In my league after that performance Hill moved into the number 1 scoring wr .. and people said he wasn't a number 1 wideout he's inconsistent yes but he has explosions like no other wr

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7 minutes ago, DarkKnightsGuru said:

In my league after that performance Hill moved into the number 1 scoring wr .. and people said he wasn't a number 1 wideout he's inconsistent yes but he has explosions like no other wr

Tyreek can single-handedly win you a weekly matchup.   Even in standard.   

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IMO best we in the game rt now.   Can do it all.  More valuable than ab, obj, Hopkins. And mike Thomas.  

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9 minutes ago, dcgangstas said:

Tyreek can single-handedly win you a weekly matchup.   Even in standard.   

He can.  But give me Gurley or Gordon in 1 pt PPR.  Granted top notch!

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Trying to bring the ball back on that last punt was kind of selfish though. Let it bounce in the end zone, your team comes out to the 20 and you save 10 seconds on the clock. A bit stupid.

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By my calculations in FFPC scoring (which is PPR with performance scoring-so he gets 6 points for a punt return) he just barely moved ahead of Theilen into WR2 in PPG just barely behind Michael Thomas. Which is interesting to me because this offseason I traded Thomas straight up for Hill, this was back in early spring. A few league members asked me what was I thinking, why was I down on Thomas ,and I told them it had nothing to do with Thomas, it was just about needing to get Hill.

Some weeks I second guess this trade and sure wish I could have found a way to use an asset other then Thomas  but not sure I'd take any WR over Hill in dynasty if you ask me tonight.

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6 hours ago, Truebluey said:

Trying to bring the ball back on that last punt was kind of selfish though. Let it bounce in the end zone, your team comes out to the 20 and you save 10 seconds on the clock. A bit stupid.

Yeah that was bad, trying to do to much

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Also I would have thought it would be smart for the chiefs on the last drive to just send Hill on a vertical and try to do a quicker throw to him while running since there’s a solid chance you get a flag on the play or he comes down with it instead of what happened on the last play where he more had to slow down and come back for the ball

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Well, the next big thing is gonna be let me find the fastest midget and over draft him because I think he could be tyreek hill, even though I have Joe flacco/Lamar Jackson at QB. 

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On pace for a 94-1594-16 season.....and the scary part is we haven't seen peak Tyreek/Mahomes yet. Tyreek's 24 and Mahomes is 23.......there's more to come. 

The way the rules have changed in the NFL in regards to what defenses are allowed to do makes Tyreek virtually un-guardable. 

 

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Hill doesn't seem to get tired either.  Amazing motor on him.

But someone needs to tell him that fielding a punt on the goal line is stupid.  

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1 hour ago, Jayrok said:

Hill doesn't seem to get tired either.  Amazing motor on him.

But someone needs to tell him that fielding a punt on the goal line is stupid.  

As an owner in a return yardage league, I loved it. 

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Tyreek Hill caught 10-of-14 targets for 215 yards and two touchdowns in the Chiefs' 54-51, Week 11 loss to the Rams on Monday night.

The Rams opted to stick soon-to-be 31-year-old Sam Shields on Hill most of the night, sliding Marcus Peters away from him and into the slot on Travis Kelce. Safe to say that it didn't work. Hill whooped Shields all night long, getting open at will, and had his first-ever 200-yard receiving game. His big play was a 73-yard touchdown strike where Hill was wide open downfield, stopped and stood still after catching the ball before walking in the end zone when Shields fell down early in the route. Hill is already well over 1,000 yards on the season heading into the bye and will get a tasty draw with the Raiders in Week 13. Hill is an elite WR1.

Nov 20 - 12:18 AM

 

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3 hours ago, Milkman said:

.....and the scary part is we haven't seen peak Tyreek/Mahomes yet. Tyreek's 24 and Mahomes is 23.......there's more to come. 

I own them both in a two player keeper league.

because I know you care

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4 hours ago, Milkman said:

#1 asset in dynasty. 6 more years of this maybe more......

That he’s in on KR/PR is concerning due to increased injury risk, but otherwise I agree. 

My leaguemates no longer think I “reached” for him at 2.12. 

Love this dude. :wub: 

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1 hour ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

That he’s in on KR/PR is concerning due to increased injury risk, but otherwise I agree. 

My leaguemates no longer think I “reached” for him at 2.12. 

Love this dude. :wub: 

I would have gladly taken him @ 2:12. It crossed my mind @ 2.03 but when with CMC since he was there to pair with Gordon.

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18 minutes ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

I would have gladly taken him @ 2:12. It crossed my mind @ 2.03 but when with CMC since he was there to pair with Gordon.

Bear in mind that when I drafted, Hill’s ADP was 3.07.

In my other league I had the 11 pick, and took Gordon. I very nearly took Hill at 2.02, but went with my higher ranked Keenan Allen, despite going back to back Chargers.

Allen hasn’t been bad. But he hasn’t been Hill. :doh: 

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So sick that I lost this week despite having him go last night, the gap plus my opponent having Woods and Butker going was too big to breach. What a fun player to own though, even in personal defeat. I'll be sad when the season ends and my one year rental is over. He will be a top 10 overall pick next year, no early third round steals next year.

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I have Hill in 4/6 leagues and Mahomes in 5/6. Needless to say it's been a pretty good year so far. 

The NFL has never before seen a player who combines Hill's world class track speed with elite agility and innate football skills.

Usually these track types are not natural football players. 

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Not only is he the fastest guy on the field but he is running great routes and showing excellent hands. His strength for his size is unusual as well. Truly a unique specimen. That sideline grab where he was able to hang on with the threat of being clobbered and the contact being made was special. 

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7 hours ago, Andrew74 said:

So glad I’m on this train now in dynasty.  :drive:

So sad I only have him in 1 of my 3 dynasty leagues.

Good news is that, in my startup FFPC 1.5pprTE league, I went Kelce in the 2nd and came back with Hill in the 3rd. Seems like highway robbery now.

Because you needed to know. :)

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So glad I traded for him and at least have him in 1 dynasty league. Gave up David Johnson & Sammy Watkins to land him and Fournette and even with Fournette missing a lot of games I LOVE the trade. Hill is so freaking good

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11 hours ago, joey said:

So sad I only have him in 1 of my 3 dynasty leagues.

Good news is that, in my startup FFPC 1.5pprTE league, I went Kelce in the 2nd and came back with Hill in the 3rd. Seems like highway robbery now.

Because you needed to know. :)

Have him in one dynasty (traded for him as a throw early in his rookie year!) and so bummed did another start up this year as auction and really wanted him as knew I could get him at decent price but was kind of scared of doubling up and wanted to mitigate risk so paid a little less for TY as my WR2. Obviously kicking myself severely over that as I'd have Mahomes/Kamara/OBJ/Tyreek! Point to the shirt boo hoo I know. :) 

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Traded for and drafted him everywhere. I knew this was coming. Called it before the season started. 

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4 minutes ago, Milkman said:

Traded for and drafted him everywhere. I knew this was coming. Called it before the season started. 

Same, own him in every dynasty league and not feeling a bit bad about it.

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