JamieMurphy
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He's starting to go late in the first round in high stakes drafts behind Hopkins and Adams.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I got him penciled in right around wr3, overall about 7/8......redraft
steelers1080
Footballguy
Thanks for the tidbit on Darrel Williams, hadn't heard much about him at all.
And, I don't think Watkins has any significant impact on the team. The chance that he plays 13 games is below 10% in my opinion. The Chiefs made a poor decision when they paid him and I think they might move on next year if they sign Tyreek if Watkins gets hurt again, even with his $7 mil dead cap hit.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
EZE pulled down a woman's shirt in front of the whole world. If you or I did that we'd be on the sex offender registry for life.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
If was stupid of him, but the woman was in his group and had a consensual sexual relationship with him.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
So? Do you think she asked him to do it? Being in a consensual sexual relationship with someone doesn't give you the legal right to do whatever you want to their body in public. Or private for that matter.
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ILUVBEER99
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
But if she did decide she had an issue with it, it was a crime. That's what made it dumb. Putting your fate totally in someone else's hands on an immature whim, with the previous incident that was being investigated all over the news, is what probably pissed off the league office about it. Not the actual act. That dumbassery is why Zeke seemingly has his own chair in Goodell's office over every little incident, right or wrong.
Stinkin Ref
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CentralPA
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Young 8
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HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/30/report-tyreek-hill-bruised-his-quad/
You tell tell Florio didnt write this article.
You tell tell Florio didnt write this article.
brun
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Dr. Octopus
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brun
Footballguy
It's a hell of a thing, deleting a post. You take away all its got and all its ever gonna have.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Someone was probably just teaching him Muay Thai
Thats believable, right?
Can we not do this all season in this thread? Jesus
Milkman
Footballguy
Keith1
Footballguy
So, where are people drafting Hill ? Late 1st round (after the top echelon of RBs are gone and after Hopkins and Davante Adams) ? Before Michael Thomas or Julio ?
And does the fact that the slightest infraction would seemingly lead to a lengthy suspension, cause you to be a bit gun-shy with taking him say late in the 1st round (of a 1/2 point PPR league) ?
And does the fact that the slightest infraction would seemingly lead to a lengthy suspension, cause you to be a bit gun-shy with taking him say late in the 1st round (of a 1/2 point PPR league) ?
TripItUp
Footballguy
Big money/expert drafts he's going around the turn. Softer drafts somewhere in the 2nd round.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
matter of preference I guess....you could make a case for him anywhere from 1-6 probably....if looking for a tiebreaker the schedule may be something to consider...
KC week 14-16...
at NE
vs DEN
at CHI
not that that should necessarily be a deal breaker for any Chief because they may somewhat match up proof....but its not the greatest playoff schedule
Stinkin Ref
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good for you....but I don't think that really applies now....and a few weeks ago that wasn't necessarily stealing....
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Kevrunner
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There is some internet chatter that a contract extension is likely close to being announced, around 3 years for $45 to $48 million. With Adam Schefter also reporting that Drew Rosenhaus was discussing a new deal with the Chiefs today, it appears that an extension is very likely/close to happening. It will be interesting to see the final numbers. The $45 to $48 million value is not coming from Schefter.
Milkman
Footballguy
Has to be more than Watkins got so if it is a 3 year deal I would think it's in the 55-60 range. Tyreek might have given the Chiefs a discount though.....
Hope the Chiefs have some out clauses, I'm sure they will. Hill seems like a troubled guy.
I'm having a hard time valuing him in dynasty. He may be available in my league but makes me nervous to make a legit play for him. On the other side, upside is obviously very tempting.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
He could be giving the Chiefs a discount in the short term with the understanding of the contract being renegotiated in a year or 2 as long as he stays trouble free. Just a guess. We will see when the numbers are released. If it is in the $45 to $48 million range, it will give a lot of credibility to the Twitter source who released the info. They have been pretty accurate so far, just the complete opposite of the media regarding Hill’s situation.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
He narrowly avoided getting a lot less, so giving up a little discount is probably mutually advantageous for Tyreek and KC
Kevrunner
Footballguy
With the NFL not suspended him at all, that is telling me all I need to know. The NFL gives suspensions out like candy. There is absolutely no benefit to the NFL to not suspend Hill, the only logical reason is Tyreek isn’t the monster the media has made 90% of the public believe. The NFL got destroyed by the media for not suspending Hill. The Chiefs are getting destroyed by keeping him. Tyreek is a great player but he isn’t worth all this negative backlash unless there is a lot more to this story than the public has been told.
JamieMurphy
Footballguy
This.
Also, I think it was in yesterdays presser where Tyreek made some cryptic remark about it coming out in a hearing or something to that effect. There's more to the story, perhaps there will be clarity at some point in the future.
Milkman
Footballguy
I agree with this but 17/yr is just a tad more than Watkins but a great discount for a WR like Tyreek. I would think that would be a great compromise. I'm not basing that on anything though.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I mentioned this earlier.....they knew they would get backlash for zero games so they must have felt pretty strongly he didn’t do anything wrong.....it would have been easy to give him a few games.....lot harder to give him none
Watkins will be gone or have to renegotiate after this year unless he goes off, so not sure how much that really plays in......Hill can give them a little discount for standing by him.....and lets not forget he plays with the the best QB in the league that gives him the best chance to take advantage of his skill set and win Super Bowls....and a solid franchise and coaching staff...
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Come on... Are you serious? Does anyone think he did nothing wrong?
Anyway, yes, they knew they'd get backlash for giving him nothing, but surely they knew they'd get more backlash for giving him 4 games, 6, whatever, for what amounts to a bad smell, if there was no hard evidence. Barring any evidence that he abused his kid I feel like they just did the same thing as they did early in the Ray Rice situation - turn a blind eye until there is some glaring evidence they have to address.
That said, I'm pretty surprised they didn't give him a game or two for the obvious verbal abuse toward his son's mother on the tape. That is by definition verbal abuse.
Anyway, I'm going to go back to playing Avengers with my little boys. Hopefully they don't end up with broken bones.
Milkman
Footballguy
Nope. He gets suspended every single time if they even thought he did something.
matuski
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Dr. Octopus
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
@Stinkin Ref nailed it. Not seeing many apologies round here. Rather than suspending him @FBG Moderator should be offering him a staff position. Dude may have saved countless people from ruining their dynasty teams.
Looks like he was warned for The "told you so / rub their nose in it" type posts never are good.
Aside from that one, his other posts on this have been excellent. Thanks for posting @Stinkin Ref and I hope you'll keep with it.
Milkman
Footballguy
Oh none of us we'll get apologizes. The people that jumped the gun will never allow themselves to be wrong about this. In their mind they are still right.
Stinkin Ref
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The "told you so / rub their nose in it" type posts never are good.
Aside from that one, his other posts on this have been excellent. Thanks for posting @Stinkin Ref and I hope you'll keep with it.
...I guess the "editing room" portion was somehow taken seriously.....lol.......guess its just a one way street around here....its okay all day to tell somebody they were right and made a great call on a guy in fantasy and give em a pat on the back.....but you can't tell somebody they were wrong and made a bad call....we are too sensitive for that and can't deal with it....that's being mean and "not excellent".....gotta be puppies and rainbows 24/7...
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smbkrypt24
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I actually enjoy when old posts are quoted. I think recognizing thinking errors and also posters that don't come back to face the heat are some that I take less seriously.
guess its just a one way street around here....its okay all day to tell somebody they were right and made a great call on a guy in fantasy and give em a pat on the back.....but you can't tell somebody they were wrong and made a bad call....we are too sensitive for that and can't deal with it....that's being mean and "not excellent".....gotta be puppies and rainbows 24/7...
Hi Stinkin Ref,
guess its just a one way street around here....its okay all day to tell somebody they were right and made a great call on a guy in fantasy and give em a pat on the back.....but you can't tell somebody they were wrong and made a bad call....we are too sensitive for that and can't deal with it....that's being mean and "not excellent".....gotta be puppies and rainbows 24/7...
i don't think it's puppies and rainbows at all. Our goal is 100% encouraging good discussion. And it's been my experience, when posts get into the calling out the specific posters who missed and making sure they pay their penance and show them up, that just kills good discussion.
At least that's what we're trying to do. And I know it's probably tame for how most boards operate. Thanks for the good contributions.
On that note, if you guys could let me know accurately exactly how the Melvin Gordon and Ezekiel Elliott situations will play out, I'd REALLY appreciate it.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Sure. We're always looking for great writers. @Stinkin Ref shoot me an email to bryant@footballguys.com with writing samples and links and we'll take a look. Thanks. Put "Contributor Position" in the title please. Thanks.
Stinkin Ref
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Lol....please don’t let my brother from another mother pull your chain.....he’s just trying to pimp me out to get me out of the Mock Draft Forum and IBL forums which are the only places I really belong....I get in trouble if I venture out of there as you can see....plus my fantasy opinions would make your VBD head explode...and I use too many of these ellipsis things....
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