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Peyton Barber

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Picked up Barber as a flier to see how he does today. Between He and Rodgers, I would think Barber would be the GL back and Rodgers, I recall, was more a COP back. May be all moot when Sims and Martin, come back, but I'm interested in how others view his chances today. Tough D to go against, surely will be a test.

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I'm not expecting much today.

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I think he'll score 0 today.

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17 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

I think he'll score 0 today.

You might be right, going up against CAR on MNF. Speculative add on my part, as I have the roster room.

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35 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

I think he'll score 0 today.

I'll take the over. The line is set at 2 points in PPR.

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6 minutes ago, Air Stich said:

I'll take the over. The line is set at 2 points in PPR.

I'll bet you $1m he scores under that today

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6 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

I'll bet you $1m he scores under that today

Don't take that bet, it is a set-up! MNF for TB. If I had $1M, I might take that bet for Monday.

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I love Barber long term.  The team seems to think that Rodgers is going to carry the load this week, but I am guessing if Barber gets in there and gets the ball a bit he will look good enough to get the ball a little more at least.

They did have Barber in the game for a few snaps last week, and he did get a carry so they have to trust him at least a little bit.

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With Martin's setback, how soon until Barber gets a chance for fantasy relevance? 

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6 hours ago, ryno1980 said:

With Martin's setback, how soon until he gets a chance for fantasy relevance? 

Sometime between now and whenever his hamstring heals. It was a significant injury to start with and news of a "setback" doesn't bode well. 

they're calling him "week to week" so no one has any idea how soon he'll be fantasy relevant again. Including Tampa Bay. 

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5 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Sometime between now and whenever his hamstring heals. It was a significant injury to start with and news of a "setback" doesn't bode well. 

they're calling him "week" so no one has any idea how soon he'll be fantasy relevant again. Including Tampa Bay. 

I'm referring to how soon until Barber has fantasy relevance.

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52 minutes ago, ryno1980 said:

I'm referring to how soon until Barber has fantasy relevance.

Oh....that's different. Never mind.

:) 

 

seems like if Jaquizz can carry the mail like he did last time they would take their time with Barber. Just a hunch.'

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I think he can break out if he gets the opportunity.   I am guessing he is like most rookie backs though and isn't quite ready to handle pass blocking and knowing where to line up and be,  etc. 

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I don't know anything about him but he's got decent size and he is coming off of a nice game.

- 12 carries

- 84 yards

- 1 TD

Quiz has toted the rock 56 times over the past two weeks and he is only 5'6 but compact at 205.  Still pretty small by NFL standards while Barber is 5'11 and 225.

Once Doug Martin returns, any value goes down the toilet but he 'might' be a 'decent' BYE or injury option.

I'm taking a blind flyer on the kid.  

Never know.

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I'm taking a flier only because Coleman is hurt and CJ had surgery. I literally have no other choice on the FA market.

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Bloom said in the Oct 25 The Couch that he believes that his number 1 candidate for this year's "out of nowhere" RB Lottery ticket is Peyton Barber.

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Would be impressed if he said that before Martin had been sidelined for a month and a half. Now? Not so much. He's just chasing ambulances.

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Wasn't Barber's usage exclusively in garbage time, including his loooooong stat-skewing TD?  I saw the TD on NFL network and he was literally untouched. 

I was on the road on the way home from my market while the game was on, and all I heard on the radio was Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers....

If that's the case I wonder if he's earned a larger role, or if this is fool's gold based on mop-up duty.  I suspect a much closer game with the Raiders (4-0 on the road) so other than COP duties, it feels like a lot of people are going to get burned by seeing his great stat line (12/84/1) and investing in him as a BYE week player. 

 

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1 hour ago, Riffraff said:

Would be impressed if he said that before Martin had been sidelined for a month and a half. Now? Not so much. He's just chasing ambulances.

He was being discussed to some degree on podcasts as soon as Martin was hurt. 

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36 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Wasn't Barber's usage exclusively in garbage time, including his loooooong stat-skewing TD?  I saw the TD on NFL network and he was literally untouched. 

I was on the road on the way home from my market while the game was on, and all I heard on the radio was Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers....

If that's the case I wonder if he's earned a larger role, or if this is fool's gold based on mop-up duty.  I suspect a much closer game with the Raiders (4-0 on the road) so other than COP duties, it feels like a lot of people are going to get burned by seeing his great stat line (12/84/1) and investing in him as a BYE week player. 

 

Yes.  he only got run because tb was able do whatever they wanted in the second half.  I don't think he's worth picking up

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I heard one local beat reporter say that he thinks Atone Smith might get more carries to prevent Rodgers wearing down.  I definitely could be wrong, but I'm not even sure Barber is the next man up if Rodgers goes down. 

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5 hours ago, btemp said:

I heard one local beat reporter say that he thinks Atone Smith might get more carries to prevent Rodgers wearing down.  I definitely could be wrong, but I'm not even sure Barber is the next man up if Rodgers goes down. 

Based on what?

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I'm relying on some super barber magic, don't harsh my gig

 

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I think the reason to invest is in case Martin never makes it back and Rodgers can't hold up this huge workload he's never got before.

Agree with those saying he's not bye week filler. But a hold if you've got a spare roster spot as a DM owner that doesn't have Quizz.

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32 minutes ago, bolldpt said:

I'm relying on some super barber magic, don't harsh my gig

 

Didn't mean to harsh your mellow. :( 

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20 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Didn't mean to harsh your mellow. :( 

I'm hangin by a RB thread

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19 hours ago, daylight said:

Bloom said in the Oct 25 The Couch that he believes that his number 1 candidate for this year's "out of nowhere" RB Lottery ticket is Peyton Barber.

A guy who breaks a 40 yard td is no longer out of nowhere IMO. There is suttle buzz now. Waldman has had good things to say about him since prior to the draft. I agree with those that believe that it would take a Rodgers injury and Martin to continue to be shelved for him to have an impact. I am not so sure Antone Smith wouldn't run ahead of him based on experience. He was pretty solid in ATL and I think Barber has a learning disability based on what I have read in the past.

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13 hours ago, btemp said:

I heard one local beat reporter say that he thinks Atone Smith might get more carries to prevent Rodgers wearing down.  I definitely could be wrong, but I'm not even sure Barber is the next man up if Rodgers goes down. 

Can you tell us who this beat reporter was?  I haven't heard anything like this; I just scoured the sleeperbot app, twitter, rotoworld, & google for information on Rodgers, Barber, Smith and couldn't find anything.

That being said, IF this type of quote was made, Antone Smith has never been able to handle any kind of RB workload; he's never had more than 6 TOUCHES (not carries) in any single game.  Even if TB were to give him a carry here & there to spell Rodgers, IF Rodgers AND Martin were unavailable, all signs indicate that Barber would be the guy to get the lion's share of the carries.

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4 hours ago, Bayhawks said:

Can you tell us who this beat reporter was?  I haven't heard anything like this; I just scoured the sleeperbot app, twitter, rotoworld, & google for information on Rodgers, Barber, Smith and couldn't find anything.

That being said, IF this type of quote was made, Antone Smith has never been able to handle any kind of RB workload; he's never had more than 6 TOUCHES (not carries) in any single game.  Even if TB were to give him a carry here & there to spell Rodgers, IF Rodgers AND Martin were unavailable, all signs indicate that Barber would be the guy to get the lion's share of the carries.

Mark Cook of Pewter Report - but on a podcast which is why you can't find it.  I can post it, but I have no idea where in the 2 hour podcast he said it. Pewter Report does a good job of reporting reliable information on the Buccaneers for a long time.

To be clear, he said (and I said) he thinks Smith gets more carries. I don't think the team is very high on Barber as a player (and yes he has a learning disability).  It's entirely possible I'm wrong.  Just to back myself up a bit though, I did predict that Rodgers would take over for Sims after Sims first game starting.  I only say that to demonstrate, as a Bucs fan, I have some idea of what the team looks like on gameday (not just as reported by fantasy football talking heads).  Even while many FF people were pumping Sims, he never looked good as an RB and was only talented in space which caused him to be overvalued from last year.  Even if he wasn't injured, he was going to be demoted.  In some ways, Sims is a good corollary for Barber as Sims would pop some nice runs and people would miss his previous 3 stuffs (he also ran against pass defences). 

Barber also hasn't looked great. Obviously some of the FBG guys disagree with me and they certainly have a stronger pedigree.  And yes Smith hasn't ever had many carries (and is old at 31).  Smith getting more carries also doesn't mean that Barber is the next man up if Rodgers goes down.  But the Bucs like his explosiveness (and he also was a former Falcon cut by the Bears lol).  I also don't think the Bucs will look as good as they did against the terrible 49ers run defence and Barber won't see those kinds of stats again.  If Rogers is injured, he'll be at most a 3.5 YPC back in a likely RBBC.  

Again, could be wrong.  My opinion is informed, but it's just an opinion. 

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7 minutes ago, btemp said:

Mark Cook of Pewter Report - but on a podcast which is why you can't find it.  I can post it, but I have no idea where in the 2 hour podcast he said it. Pewter Report does a good job of reporting reliable information on the Buccaneers for a long time.

To be clear, he said (and I said) he thinks Smith gets more carries. I don't think the team is very high on Barber as a player (and yes he has a learning disability).  It's entirely possible I'm wrong.  Just to back myself up a bit though, I did predict that Rodgers would take over for Sims after Sims first game starting.  I only say that to demonstrate, as a Bucs fan, I have some idea of what the team looks like on gameday (not just as reported by fantasy football talking heads).  Even while many FF people were pumping Sims, he never looked good as an RB and was only talented in space which caused him to be overvalued from last year.  Even if he wasn't injured, he was going to be demoted.  In some ways, Sims is a good corollary for Barber as Sims would pop some nice runs and people would miss his previous 3 stuffs (he also ran against pass defences). 

Barber also hasn't looked great. Obviously some of the FBG guys disagree with me and they certainly have a stronger pedigree.  And yes Smith hasn't ever had many carries (and is old at 31).  Smith getting more carries also doesn't mean that Barber is the next man up if Rodgers goes down.  But the Bucs like his explosiveness (and he also was a former Falcon cut by the Bears lol).  I also don't think the Bucs will look as good as they did against the terrible 49ers run defence and Barber won't see those kinds of stats again.  If Rogers is injured, he'll be at most a 3.5 YPC back in a likely RBBC.  

Again, could be wrong.  My opinion is informed, but it's just an opinion. 

Just curious....can you unpack Barber not looking good? I have not seen anything but the broken run. 

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Got the start and looked pretty decent.   Didn't do anything to lose the job,  and Smith was injured.   He had an easy drop but otherwise looked like good hands.   I like this guy long term. 

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7 hours ago, kittenmittens said:

Got the start and looked pretty decent.   Didn't do anything to lose the job,  and Smith was injured.   He had an easy drop but otherwise looked like good hands.   I like this guy long term. 

Martin will probably take the job back next week, but I agree he's a dynasty hold.

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59 minutes ago, FF Ninja said:

Martin will probably take the job back next week, but I agree he's a dynasty hold.

What's the source on that news, I haven't seen anything indicating Martin was coming back soon, in fact everything they've been doing roster wise has said the opposite.

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2 minutes ago, Ojaays said:

What's the source on that news, I haven't seen anything indicating Martin was coming back soon, in fact everything they've been doing roster wise has said the opposite.

I haven't heard anything saying he'll probably be back next week (although that does seem to be a fairly popular opinion), but how have any roster moves "said the opposite?"

 

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5 minutes ago, Bayhawks said:

I haven't heard anything saying he'll probably be back next week (although that does seem to be a fairly popular opinion), but how have any roster moves "said the opposite?"

 

The signing of Smith and James to go with Barber.

this week will be interesting, Smith went down late with what looked like a very serious leg/knee injury, he could not put any weight on it.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Ojaays said:

The signing of Smith and James to go with Barber.

this week will be interesting, Smith went down late with what looked like a very serious leg/knee injury, he could not put any weight on it.

Did you expect them to go into a game with only one RB? Most teams carry 3-4 active RBs on game day.

As for my source, I think there have been many predicting a week 10 return. Jene Bramel among them. There's definitely a non-zero chance that Martin misses week 10, but I think it would be foolish to be counting on Barber in your week 10 lineup at this point.

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2 hours ago, Ojaays said:

The signing of Smith and James to go with Barber.

this week will be interesting, Smith went down late with what looked like a very serious leg/knee injury, he could not put any weight on it.

 

 

Smith was signed several weeks ago after Sims got hurt, James was signed last week after Rodgers got hurt.  The connection to be made is with those 2 RBs, not Martin, IMO. 

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5 hours ago, Ojaays said:

The signing of Smith and James to go with Barber.

this week will be interesting, Smith went down late with what looked like a very serious leg/knee injury, he could not put any weight on it.

 

 

Do you have a hyperlink to news about the injury Smith sustained last night I can't find anything

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there has been zero news, the injury did not look good

 

and they finished the game with Barber on the field getting target after target and he missed a TD by a couple yards right before Brate got his

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