I feel like a statement this voting cycle will get him on the stage next time.Not Trump.
Prefer not Hillary either but with Johnson not even being at the debate, it would be truly difficult for him to win any state let alone the election.
I would have thought the endorsement of a few major newspapers / media outlets would have gotten him there this time. But it seems everyone, including trump through his antics, is handing the office to HRC.I feel like a statement this voting cycle will get him on the stage next time.
We are stuck with scumbag Clinton #2 this time.
His glasses alone are smarter than the 2 of them combined.Now that I think about it, I'm writing in Anderson Cooper.
Rockaction, you're a very smart dude. Why are you so positive that Hillary is corrupt? Every time there's an accusation about this it's debunked. Personally I do t believe she's any more corrupt than most politicians.I'm not voting. That's my dissent. It's either political corruption or mean incompetence and I can't stand either.
He was horrible last night, didn't even look up at times to make eye contact with the candidates when the discussion got heated. He looked like the most uncomfortable person in the room, bizarre.Now that I think about it, I'm writing in Anderson Cooper.
That's fine you don't think that. She's your avatar. (She was a Goldwater Girl then.)Rockaction, you're a very smart dude. Why are you so positive that Hillary is corrupt? Every time there's an accusation about this it's debunked. Personally I do t believe she's any more corrupt than most politicians.
That's the perception of her, right or wrong. Trump's is an arrogant, womanizing buffoon. Public figures have a certain "perception" whether they like it or not. You can defend Hilary 24/7, and you may actually be right! I have no idea. But the perception is that she's a fake and corrupt politician. There's a reason everyone in the world is laughing at this election, and it isn't because Hilary is a gem of a candidate and Trump is a buffoon. It's because both candidates are perceived as absolute jokes.Rockaction, you're a very smart dude. Why are you so positive that Hillary is corrupt? Every time there's an accusation about this it's debunked. Personally I do t believe she's any more corrupt than most politicians.
Massachusetts did about twenty years ago. Back then, he was a younger Republican moderate, touting the Grateful Dead and other such things. I brought him up this year to a roomful of people, and was pleasantly surprised when he took the VP position of the Libertarian ticket. Made me look savant-ish.Can I vote for Weld?
Its unfortunate that this might be his last dance. Id love to see more of his kind in the gop.Massachusetts did about twenty years ago. Back then, he was a younger Republican moderate, touting the Grateful Dead and other such things. I brought him up this year to a roomful of people, and was pleasantly surprised when he took the VP position of the Libertarian ticket. Made me look savant-ish.
Agree, but, how often is the perception wrong after two years where her campaign's sole job was to convince people otherwise?That's the perception of her, right or wrong. Trump's is an arrogant, womanizing buffoon. Public figures have a certain "perception" whether they like it or not. You can defend Hilary 24/7, and you may actually be right! I have no idea. But the perception is that she's a fake and corrupt politician. There's a reason everyone in the world is laughing at this election, and it isn't because Hilary is a gem of a candidate and Trump is a buffoon. It's because both candidates are perceived as absolute jokes.
Is this really the case though? Because when I talk to people outside the country who bring up our embarrassment of an election, none of them say anything about Hillary......There's a reason everyone in the world is laughing at this election, and it isn't because Hilary is a gem of a candidate and Trump is a buffoon. It's because both candidates are perceived as absolute jokes.
It's disappointing when the media and conservatives employ false equivalencies. It's even more disappointing when smart liberals like you take a similar stand.None of the above. Hillary is corrupt despite Tim's protestations. Trump is an abomination. Johnson has made himself look like a fool. And Jill Stein likes to play footsie with anti-science for a few votes. Plus she is hateful. Back to not voting the top of the ticket for me.
I've spoken with a lot of foreigners (mostly Europeans). Almost without fail, their opinion of Hillary is pretty neutral and Trump is the joke they don't understandThat's the perception of her, right or wrong. Trump's is an arrogant, womanizing buffoon. Public figures have a certain "perception" whether they like it or not. You can defend Hilary 24/7, and you may actually be right! I have no idea. But the perception is that she's a fake and corrupt politician. There's a reason everyone in the world is laughing at this election, and it isn't because Hilary is a gem of a candidate and Trump is a buffoon. It's because both candidates are perceived as absolute jokes.
Matches my experience and what I'm seeing from people in world media.I've spoken with a lot of foreigners (mostly Europeans). Almost without fail, their opinion of Hillary is pretty neutral and Trump is the joke they don't understand
ETA: A lot being about a dozen. Not overly representative but more than most have spoken with I'm sure
We look to America as our world leader. Like it or not, people look to it, and they know that. And with Donald Trump becoming president, people will be concerned about the stability of America and the stability of the world.
In a survey looking into the public image of the U.S. around the world, Trump inspires little confidence:
85% of the Europeans surveyed doubted Trump’s ability to do the right thing regarding world affairs. Among them, 92% of Swedes and 89% of Germans said they had no confidence in Trump’s ability to handle the international aspect of the presidency. Some 87% of Australians and 82% of Japanese agreed.
I'm real close to doing that but I'm going with Trump because he's going to lose, a D in the WH is good for stocks and I can ##### about her incompetence since I didn't vote for her. Like someone else put it a few days ago, none of these turdlets gives a rat's ### about any of us. Bernie probably does but that's why he's not in the running anymore.I'm not voting. That's my dissent. It's either political corruption or mean incompetence and I can't stand either.
You can ##### about her incompetence even if you vote for her.I'm real close to doing that but I'm going with Trump because he's going to lose, a D in the WH is good for stocks and I can ##### about her incompetence since I didn't vote for her. Like someone else put it a few days ago, none of these turdlets gives a rat's ### about any of us. Bernie probably does but that's why he's not in the running anymore.
Mine are mostly Canadian, but I have seem similar results.I've spoken with a lot of foreigners (mostly Europeans). Almost without fail, their opinion of Hillary is pretty neutral and Trump is the joke they don't understand
ETA: A lot being about a dozen. Not overly representative but more than most have spoken with I'm sure
Not playing teams anymore. Want me back? Run a candidate I can support.It's disappointing when the media and conservatives employ false equivalencies. It's even more disappointing when smart liberals like you take a similar stand.
Hope to have you on board in 2020 amigo.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."I'm not voting. That's my dissent. It's either political corruption or mean incompetence and I can't stand either.
So you're counting on everyone else doing the right thing for you. I get it, and will do so.I'm real close to doing that but I'm going with Trump because he's going to lose, a D in the WH is good for stocks and I can ##### about her incompetence since I didn't vote for her. Like someone else put it a few days ago, none of these turdlets gives a rat's ### about any of us. Bernie probably does but that's why he's not in the running anymore.
You won't want to say that you voted for here, that's the problem with that.You can ##### about her incompetence even if you vote for her.
Pretty sure this is the plan of many out there. Or at least it should be.You can not vote for President and still vote. I have over 30 candidates to research in local and state elections. I will vote I just won't vote the top of the ticket.
I was leaning that way for a while but just can't find a way to justify giving Trump my vote. I will go to vote and leave the top of the ticket blank, not voting for a Republican for President for the first time in my life. I hate what he has done to the party. I didn't like his antics during the primaries but still gave him every opportunity to win me over after he got the nomination. If Bill Clinton could get elected after all the allegations against him, Trump could have overcome most of what has come out so far. Who knows what's next though. All he had to do was act like a normal human being and learn all he could about the important issues. But he couldn't be bothered, so he stuck to the catch phrases and insults that got him here. Sad!I'm real close to doing that but I'm going with Trump because he's going to lose, a D in the WH is good for stocks and I can ##### about her incompetence since I didn't vote for her. Like someone else put it a few days ago, none of these turdlets gives a rat's ### about any of us. Bernie probably does but that's why he's not in the running anymore.
Not playing teams anymore. Want me back? Run a candidate I can support.It's disappointing when the media and conservatives employ false equivalencies. It's even more disappointing when smart liberals like you take a similar stand.
Hope to have you on board in 2020 amigo.
By the way there is no false equivalence here. I think abomination is worse than standard corrupt. I expect Hillary to betray everything I stand for. I expect her to try to push through the grand bargain which is a conservative cornucopia. I expect her to intervene militarily in places I have no desire.to see Americans die. I expect her.to continue to push fossil fuels and fracking to the detriment of our planet. For starters.
Trump is a narcissistic lunatic. He can't be trusted with a pet much less the country.
Still doesn't change what Hillary is and what she will do.
It's called 'projection'.I was leaning that way for a while but just can't find a way to justify giving Trump my vote. I will go to vote and leave the top of the ticket blank, not voting for a Republican for President for the first time in my life. I hate what he has done to the party. I didn't like his antics during the primaries but still gave him every opportunity to win me over after he got the nomination. If Bill Clinton could get elected after all the allegations against him, Trump could have overcome most of what has come out so far. Who knows what's next though. All he had to do was act like a normal human being and learn all he could about the important issues. But he couldn't be bothered, so he stuck to the catch phrases and insults that got him here. Sad!
He is the one thing he hates the most...a loser.
We the People chose these candidates.Is there anyway that We the People can rise up and demand a push of the reset button? It is both amazing and saddening that we have come to this point with two candidates so heavily disliked.