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***Official 2025 NBA Champion Philadelphia 76ers Thread*** - Korkmaz re-signed! All problems solved!

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Except this kind of sucks:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842448-76ers-rumors-philly-likely-to-lose-either-jimmy-butler-tobias-harris-or-both

“On The Full 48 podcast, Bleacher Report's Howard Beck said has heard Philadelphia could lose at least one of Butler and Harris, if not both:

"I have heard some very strong rumblings this week that the Sixers are gonna lose one—and maybe even both—of Tobias Harris and Jimmy Butler.

[...]

"Take it with all due grains of salt, we're talking about this still on June 21, but I would not be surprised if Jimmy Butler and/or Tobias Harris go elsewhere. The Sixers just have some strange dynamics with that group."

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any indication on ownership's feeling about being locked into several years of luxury tax? i've always felt that was a factor in some of the Celtics personnel decisions in the Jerseypix™ era.

and what's the word on Zaire? i really liked his tape, but all i've heard since is that he appeared to have gone to the Simmons/Fultz School of Yips.

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1 hour ago, wikkidpissah said:

any indication on ownership's feeling about being locked into several years of luxury tax? i've always felt that was a factor in some of the Celtics personnel decisions in the Jerseypix™ era.

and what's the word on Zaire? i really liked his tape, but all i've heard since is that he appeared to have gone to the Simmons/Fultz School of Yips.

the most prominent of their group of governors has said multiple times that he is willing to pay the tax if it means a championship level team.  I still have some skepticism, as the team is continually highly focused on making money, but he is definitely on record with that.

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On 6/23/2019 at 11:35 PM, Long Ball Larry said:

So I guess now that the shock and anger of the draft has worn off, let’s think about what the team will look like.  After all of these shenanigans, they better ####### bring back both butler and Harris (or somehow get a different max guy for one of them).  Which probably leaves the roster like this:

embiid 

simmons

butler

harris

reddick

thybulle

Zaire

scott

tj

bolden

shake

some backup center (please)

If I do that by holding the bird rights and signing:

 butler (max 32.7), Harris (max 32.7), Reddick (9 mill), Scott (5 mill), tj (1.6 mill), and the center on the biannual, they still have non taxpayer MLE (at least according to the capulator http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=17451484825d0feeb30c311462582192)

Let's say that backup is Kyle O'Quinn and that they could get Mirotic with the MLE, then the cap looks like this: http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=8344315265d0fefe71c8cd057525598

Mirotic might be too pie in the sky, so maybe Marcus Morris or Al-Faroug Aminu would be a good substitute.

That gives them 12 players and they are just barely over the tax.  I assume Shayok will be in the G leauge.  I'm not sure why it wouldn't have been worth having  another 2nd round pick or 2 at the end of the roster, but I guess I can see a little more of the vision of this roster construction as long as they bring back/in 2 max FAs.

I guess they could maybe get Harris or Scott or Butler to sign for slightly less and that would keep them under the luxury tax to start (though 9 mill may be a little optimistic for JJ).  And then they play around with the roster over the year to keep enough fresh guys and not go into the tax.  Then they are set up to re-sign Ben without ever having gone into the tax before next year and then they better pay it out the ###.

I guess Al counts?

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Here's a pretty good summary of where the Sixers are now: https://www.libertyballers.com/2019/7/1/20676886/whats-left-to-do-for-the-sixers-in-free-agency-philadelphia-76ers-nba

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After a wild opening night of free agency, Sixers fans saw the roster significantly altered for yet another time in the last eight months. Miami is currently working out the pieces with either Dallas or another third party to create the necessary cap space to bring in Jimmy Butler in the sign-and-trade. Assuming the Sixers do not have to take back any more additional salary than Josh Richardson, here is the roster Philadelphia is currently looking at and what they still have available to work with going forward.

Tobias Harris: $31.03M
Joel Embiid: $27.5M
Al Horford: $22.56M
Josh Richardson: $10.12M
Ben Simmons: $8.11M
Mike Scott: $4.78M
Zhaire Smith: $3.06M
Jonah Bolden: $1.7M
Matisse Thybulle: $2.58M
Shake Milton: Two-way contract
Marial Shayok: Unsigned, likely two-way contract

If we assume the Sixers slot Scott in using the Room Exception, they have $7.71M in cap space remaining to fill out the rest of the roster.

Jeff Siegel@jgsiegel

There ya go, so Philly will have the $7.71 million in space leftover to figure out the rest of their roster. Mike Scott is already in the Room Exception, so it's just this space plus minimums. They have nine guys under contract for next season right now.https://www.earlybirdrights.com/salary-cap/phi  https://twitter.com/DerekBodnerNBA/status/1145500230324051970 …

So what do they need? As I see it, the Sixers still have three roles left to fill.

Shooter to replace JJ Redick

Josh Richardson is much younger and a much better defender than the team’s former starting shooting guard, but while he’s perfectly fine as an outside shooter, Richardson doesn’t offer the same gravity as Redick. Surrounding Simmons and Embiid with as many shooters as possible as always been viewed as a priority (although not always executed as such).

Possible replacements: Danny Green (unlikely given limited cap space), Seth Curry, Wayne Ellington

Backup point guard

With Point Jimmy in South Beach, the Sixers will need a guy to run the second unit. Philadelphia still has a cap hold for T.J. McConnell, but it’s assumed he’ll get a larger deal elsewhere.

Possible solutions: Ish Smith (update: signed with Washington), Jeremy Lin, JJ Barea

Another center (I know, I know)

Though in the playoffs, Horford will start alongside Embiid before also rotating in as the backup center, the Sixers will still need another big man to soak up a ton of backup minutes during the regular season. Maybe the team feels Jonah Bolden is ready for the role, but given the need to rest both Embiid and Horford during the season, it couldn’t hurt to have another guy available. The team should not pay much more than the minimum to fill this role given the huge percentage of the cap already allocated to Embiid and Horford.

Possible solutions: Boban Marjanovic, JaVale McGee, Nene Hilario


 

I think that there could be better options at C.  I still think that they might bring TJ back after they do everything else.

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Ben getting paid if he takes the offer. If he doesn't, I'm pretty sure that means he's gone in 2 years.

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Assuming Korkmaz is gone and if TJ leaves, the Sixers will have just 3 players who were active on last year's opening roster.

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5 hours ago, Long Ball Larry said:

Assuming Korkmaz is gone and if TJ leaves, the Sixers will have just 3 players who were active on last year's opening roster.

When 2 of them are Ben and Jo, who cares.

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On 7/11/2019 at 5:13 AM, need2know said:

Any chance we sign livingston?

Nah.

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On 10/3/2019 at 12:58 PM, Long Ball Larry said:

timely insight...

Lol. Also really loving watching Thybulle. I’m glad he is going to be getting minutes this year, will.be fun to watch 

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Well Flyers got a W again finally. Let's keep it going 

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so they shot like crap and still won easily.  i dont love their bench but this team will win alot of games.

was watching Ben closely to see his jumper.  seemed like the same guy we have seen to me.  maybe he shoots more later but i didnt notice anything different about his play

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22 hours ago, need2know said:

so they shot like crap and still won easily.  i dont love their bench but this team will win alot of games.

was watching Ben closely to see his jumper.  seemed like the same guy we have seen to me.  maybe he shoots more later but i didnt notice anything different about his play

the thing is that they are so dominant defensively that even average offense is not going to be a problem most nights in the regular season (assuming some good transition buckets and just a few more 3s from Richardson, Scott, Ennis, Thybulle).  So I definitely think the offense will be a work in progress and that IF Simmons ever shoots, it will be a very slow process to work it in over the season.

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1 hour ago, Long Ball Larry said:

the thing is that they are so dominant defensively that even average offense is not going to be a problem most nights in the regular season (assuming some good transition buckets and just a few more 3s from Richardson, Scott, Ennis, Thybulle).  So I definitely think the offense will be a work in progress and that IF Simmons ever shoots, it will be a very slow process to work it in over the season.

yes agree.  maybe they can swing a trade or move for another shooter?

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barely beat Cleveland at home...  Ben might actually be worse then his rookie year. This team is getting booted in the 1st or 2nd round again, Brett Brown probably gets fired.

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3 hours ago, babydemon90 said:

barely beat Cleveland at home...  Ben might actually be worse then his rookie year. This team is getting booted in the 1st or 2nd round again, Brett Brown probably gets fired.

:lmao:

Take it easy man, they're 7-3 ffs!

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This team is dumb as hell. Turnovers. Firing 3's. Lazy defense. 

They need to wake the #### up. 

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This is not a good team. 3rd Philly team this year touted as championship Calibur until we play the games. Then we see that they're not only lacking championship quality, they're actually mediocre or worse.

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