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A week later, I am still crushed. The perspective of a mixed-race marriage and a loss of trust (1 Viewer)
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
It's almost impossible to overstate how much of an outlier Trump is on foreign policy compared to any major Presidential candidate in modern history, let alone an incoming President-elect.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I brought it up - I didn't intend to hijack but I did want to point out that the back and forth around race/religion/sexual assault may end up being minor compared with the climate change issues we face. Not to downplay those issues or Koya's thread/posts in any way. Maybe it deserves it's own thread (or I'm sure we have one)
flapgreen
Footballguy
Hasn't ruined me yet and I've been let down in life as much as most. I don't claim moral superiority above anyone else in this world. I've also not always shown the kind of love I should have to others. But it's served me well in life and made me a happier person. Doesn't mean I haven't been hurt plenty of times. That's part of it.
msommer
Footballguy
There is a thread for it, climate change discussions, that is https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/619690-the-case-against-global-warming-skepticism/#comment-13712168
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Seems to me the "bigger issue" is more that Trump literally has no idea what he's doing on a vast array of issues. I mean, he apparently thought all the White House staffers from the Obama administration would stay on. He literally didn't know he'd need to staff the White House below his top advisors. And I don't know what the scariest result from that would be. Is it that Trump will careen unpredictably between policy positions based on gut instinct or is it that he'll essentially be a puppet to advisers with agendas like W was in his first term.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
doowain
Footballguy
This country is bigger than one man. It will still be here after him. Racism, violence, division all existed before him becoming President. It's us as a collective that cause it and it's us that can fix it.
You have full control over your own life and how you choose to raise your theoretical children. Just raise them to be self reliant and not overly-sensitive ####### and they'll be fine.
You have full control over your own life and how you choose to raise your theoretical children. Just raise them to be self reliant and not overly-sensitive ####### and they'll be fine.
shadrap
Footballguy
Sorry, new day & I can't remember although it was probably a very insightful comment on something. maybe not too.
NREC34
Footballguy
For those of us who didn't vote for Trump we just have to take it one day at a time.
It would not be as bad if some of those who wanted him would be a little more gracious in their win. Makes it tough to not hate him and oppose him on everything from the start like they did to Obama.
It would also not be as bad if we did not have to hear about him as much. So he went out to dinner last night and did not tell the press? Who cares? Talk about something else on the news. Please.
It would not be as bad if some of those who wanted him would be a little more gracious in their win. Makes it tough to not hate him and oppose him on everything from the start like they did to Obama.
It would also not be as bad if we did not have to hear about him as much. So he went out to dinner last night and did not tell the press? Who cares? Talk about something else on the news. Please.
dgreen
Footballguy
You say there's no such thing as unconditional love and then give us an example of someone displaying unconditional love?
Rick James
Footballguy
Hey guys I'm a little out of the loop, could someone let me know if Koya's future kids are going to be mixed-race, or what
Rick James
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
So, it looks like they will have a father of one race and a mother of a different race. I'm not sure what that means, though.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Maybe. Hope you make it through relatively unscathed. My experience is that I've seen it absolutely destroy families.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
My point is that his unconditional love for his family was neither reciprocated nor appreciated. It ruined many relationships for my uncle as well.
Sweet J
Footballguy
That one guy
Footballguy
I'm gonna throw my unsolicited opinion out toward what I think to be the real crux of the OP and avoid the political aspect of it: parenthood and children
OP doesn't have them yet, but I think it's safe to assume he and the wife intend to have them. As a father of a soon to be 2 year old, my following thoughts come solely from personal experience...simply having a child will produce a much better picture of who your friends are than their vote ever could. You'll know pretty quickly just how close knit a lot of your current group of friends are when a baby is thrown in the mix. Not to say that you'll flat out lose friends, but there'll be a separation from those that treat you like family and those that are simply friends.
Furthermore, you are going to change completely. Not your political holdings, but how that stuff impacts you and your reactions to it. Your world will become much much smaller, it'll be comparable in size to your little baby because that will be your world now. Cliches like "the world isn't all black and white" become relevant and applicable; but not in some simplistic manner, just in how you now manage your life compared to how you thought things were prior to having children.
I'm gonna stop rambling as this could get even more incoherent and I get the sense it's tone is a bit negative...it isn't, children should be viewed as the greatest achievement in your life and you and the wife should chase that joy with all your energy. I'm simply saying that while this election does have impacts on life, the bigger impact of having a child will be a much better indicator of who these friends are to you and your family. Let that reality dictate how you proceed, not their vote; I would venture to guess your concerns expressed in the OP would be much more easily understood by the friends when the reality of child rearing is physical over political hypotheticals (no, that's not a dismissal of your personal concerns)
OP doesn't have them yet, but I think it's safe to assume he and the wife intend to have them. As a father of a soon to be 2 year old, my following thoughts come solely from personal experience...simply having a child will produce a much better picture of who your friends are than their vote ever could. You'll know pretty quickly just how close knit a lot of your current group of friends are when a baby is thrown in the mix. Not to say that you'll flat out lose friends, but there'll be a separation from those that treat you like family and those that are simply friends.
Furthermore, you are going to change completely. Not your political holdings, but how that stuff impacts you and your reactions to it. Your world will become much much smaller, it'll be comparable in size to your little baby because that will be your world now. Cliches like "the world isn't all black and white" become relevant and applicable; but not in some simplistic manner, just in how you now manage your life compared to how you thought things were prior to having children.
I'm gonna stop rambling as this could get even more incoherent and I get the sense it's tone is a bit negative...it isn't, children should be viewed as the greatest achievement in your life and you and the wife should chase that joy with all your energy. I'm simply saying that while this election does have impacts on life, the bigger impact of having a child will be a much better indicator of who these friends are to you and your family. Let that reality dictate how you proceed, not their vote; I would venture to guess your concerns expressed in the OP would be much more easily understood by the friends when the reality of child rearing is physical over political hypotheticals (no, that's not a dismissal of your personal concerns)
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
I'm far from unscathed. I don't have all the answers. Everyone does it differently.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Hillary's team could have easily suggested a question for Donna Brazile to take back to her bosses.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I guess my question and please Koya, don't take this wrong, if your friend votes the way you want them to in the next round of elections, will they be forgiven?
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Even though there are a handful of idiot Trump supporters who can't seem to get past the "I won, I'm so happy" part of the election, we're entering the time where real policies and legislation will be coming forward, which is a welcome change. Evaluating the merits and faults of policy and legislation on their face is what I'm looking forward to, and I won't let the handful taint the perspective of whether it may be good policy or not.
msommer
Footballguy
It is an interesting time, I mean, normally we have had 18 months of actual policy discussion leading up to this point, but now we sort of start from scratch.
It's a brave new world
mr roboto
Footballguy
Yeah. No one knows what he actually can or will do. Although I appreciated a few specifics in his first 100 days statement.
Fox Scream
Footballguy
Sounds like a personal problem, maybe try a new country? I didn't like Obama but I put up with his crap like a man.
Be a man.
Be a man.
Widbil83
Footballguy
It could got a lot worse for you guys who hate Trump. If he is 1/10 as insufferable as Obama was for his first year running around saying "I won" and "you lost" at every turn you guys are in for a bumpy ride.
NREC34
Footballguy
Lol. Didn't happen. Revisionist history.
He did a lot and could've done even more good if not for those that never gave him a chance.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
jonessed
Footballguy
The idea that the media did not stack the deck enough for Hillary is absurd. I can't believe this is even being trotted out as a serious argument.
Dr Oadi
Footballguy
Don't go to Maryland. They will beat you up for not voting for their guy.. gal.
http://www.wusa9.com/mb/local/maryland-news
http://www.wusa9.com/mb/local/maryland-news
jonessed
Footballguy
They are mutually exclusive on specific policy. Are you saying he will sometimes use his gut instinct and sometimes use his advisors?
Dr Oadi
Footballguy
They called him sexist racist xenophobic homophobic transphobic msyoganist but if they would have just called him climate change denier then she would have won.
90% can't lose.
seven to one.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Montgomery County. Top 3 median income counties in America. Hypocrisy and entitlement know no boundaries.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Well to be fair, that'd be like wearing a Stronger Together shirt anywhere in Mississippi. Sometimes you have to be aware of where you are.
When it comes to our politics and our amazing flag, we're straight gangster here in Maryland.
It is fun to remember when Republicans cared about debt. Only seems to happen when they don't have the White House
Hov34
Eephus's Great Great Great Love Child
Jayrod
Footballguy
tommyboy
Footballguy
this is true. One of my main issues with Republican party.
brings up a nice point i'd like to make. Even though there are millions of Republicans, the Republican leadership does not give two cents about me or people they're supposed to represent. This is why Trump won. Many people saw the elite NEVER TRUMPERS from the Republican leadership, the same people that wanted to destroy the Tea Party. People thought "you're just as much of a problem as the Democrats" and voted for trump as a vote against Hillary and elite Republicans that have lost touch with the party.
Trump talked about law and order, enforcing immigration, renegotiating trade agreements. These are all against the Republican leadership ideas. They wanted Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio etc.... all the vanilla Republicans lost to trump in the prelims because "conservatives" liked that he wasn't ignoring legitimate issues to a wide swath of voters.
For years, Republican leadership has talked about conservative ideas to get votes, but once in power they've operated on their own interests, or the interests of business partners.
Trump ran against that and won
BassNBrew
Footballguy
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