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1. Teh .45 long slide with the laser sighting.Give me one recommended entry-level firearm for each of the following (please also include rough price point if known, thanks):
1. Handgun/pistol
2. Shotgun
3. AR-15
1. Handgun/pistol - 9MM Springfield XDMGive me one recommended entry-level firearm for each of the following (please also include rough price point if known, thanks):
1. Handgun/pistol
2. Shotgun
3. AR-15
Give me one recommended entry-level firearm for each of the following (please also include rough price point if known, thanks):
1. Handgun/pistol - Glock 26 9mm subcompact $599
2. Shotgun Remington 870 with 18" Barrel for home defense $300
3. AR-15 too many to choose from, but should be able to get something very solid around a grand.
This Smith & Wesson should do the trick.Which gun can I legally purchase that will allow me to kill the most people in the shortest amount of time?
for self defense of course
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I have 2 of these.. newer (or upgraded?) model though with the MLOK system.For the AR, I've heard very good things about the Smith&Wesson M&P15 Sport. I've seen it in the $600 range. It's my next gun purchase.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-15-sport-ii
How do you like them?I have 2 of these.. newer (or upgraded?) model though with the MLOK system.
Totally what I'd buy if I got a gun. Love these.[icon] said:There is nothing "entry level" about a $2000 Bernelli shottie
Hey, just what you see pal.1. Teh .45 long slide with the laser sighting.
2. The 12-gauge autoloader
3. Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
1. Assuming that you want the handgun primarily to conceal carry, I'd have no reservations about recommending the M&P Shield. Accurate with low recoil in 9mm. Get one without the thumb safety, but do splurge on the factory night sights. Approximate cost is $500. Alternatively if you're looking for something that you *might* conceal carry occasionally, but otherwise sits safely at home as a "nightstand" gun, I'd recommend a Glock (17/19) or S&W (M&P full size or compact) in 9mm. Cost here is around $450. I don't recommend .40 or .45, not because they are bad calibers, but rather that 9mm will have the lowest recoil with a higher magazine capacity while still offering acceptable performance.Give me one recommended entry-level firearm for each of the following (please also include rough price point if known, thanks):
1. Handgun/pistol
2. Shotgun
3. AR-15
Oooh that Cimarron is sweet.1. Assuming that you want the handgun primarily to conceal carry, I'd have no reservations about recommending the M&P Shield. Accurate with low recoil in 9mm. Get one without the thumb safety, but do splurge on the factory night sights. Approximate cost is $500. Alternatively if you're looking for something that you *might* conceal carry occasionally, but otherwise sits safely at home as a "nightstand" gun, I'd recommend a Glock (17/19) or S&W (M&P full size or compact) in 9mm. Cost here is around $450. I don't recommend .40 or .45, not because they are bad calibers, but rather that 9mm will have the lowest recoil with a higher magazine capacity while still offering acceptable performance.
2. If you already own a shotgun that you may use (or once did) for hunting and you want to use it for home defense, buy a 18.5" smooth bore barrel and some buckshot. Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 replacement barrels are under $100. If you don't already own a shotgun and have no intention of every using one for hunting, don't waste your money on buying a shotgun. If you insist on buy a shotgun anyway, the aforementioned shotguns are the standard and should run you less than $400.
3. ARs are a lot like computers. You can buy a Dell to do basic office/surfing stuff. It'll work, but if you start using it frequently you may feel like you wished you spent more money on something nicer. Following the computer analog, the best bang for your buck on gaming computers is if you build it yourself.
I really don't know much about the grab it off the shelf ARs - I think the M&P 15 is a decent gun for around $700. This would be a perfectly fine AR for an occasional trip to the range and/or as a home defense gun.
If you head the build it yourself route, you can buy about any brand of stripped lower and buy the rest of the lower parts as you desire - your choice on how much you want to spend on the trigger and buffer/stock. Putting the lower together is simple if you have two thumbs, basic tools, and some patience. For the upper I'd recommend a Bravo Company 16" mid length and bolt carrier group/charging handle. You can build yourself a very nice AR for around a grand.
A couple more pieces of advice:
1. If possible try out as many firearms as possible before making a purchase. Some ranges have guns for rent - don't be afraid to try them out. If you don't have a range close that does this, when at your gun shop focus on what fits your hand well and how comfortable/natural it is to point and dry fire.
2. Get some training. If you only have one take away from my entire post, this is it. It's well worth the cost and time to learn how to use your firearms safely, responsibly, and effectively. If you think you'll rise to the occasion if you need to use your firearm, you won't. You'll fall to your training level. Ask potential instructors about their qualifications. If you get answers that seem a bit sketchy, then its a strong indicator that this isn't the instructor you're looking for. In my experience I've had good luck with law enforcement instructors/trainers looking to make some extra money teaching civilians what they know.
3. If you're thinking about concealed carry, buy a decent holster and belt. If you go cheap here, you'll ultimately end up not carrying the pistol or replacing the crap holster/belt.
4. Buy firearms/get training in this order - pistol/AR/shotgun.
5. To answer the original question in the thread topic and if I had money burning a hole in my pocket, I'd buy this: http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/products/hollywood-series/hollywood-series-man-with-no-name-conversion.html
90% of the time you don't have to shoot it (unverified). An invader hears that familiar "CHIK - CHIK!!" of the shotgun pump and they fleeA shotgun is the best home defense weapon there is.
I had one... wasn't a fan of the single stack mag (lower capacity and too small for my large hands).... also found I wasn't as accurate with it (vs my glock26) in several side by side sessions.Dad got me a s&w shield for xmas last year....I like it.
I think there are a couple of scenarios here.90% of the time you don't have to shoot it (unverified). An invader hears that familiar "CHIK - CHIK!!" of the shotgun pump and they flee
I agree that stopping power is a very strong point for the shotgun in a home defense situation.My biggest advantage of shotgun > pistol is forgiveness in targeting in what is likely to be a poor visibility / chaotic situation... and knockdown power.
Talk to any LEO about how many times they've seen folks absorb multiple handgun rounds and keep coming. Or, god forbid you miss center mass (or all together) due to lighting or chaos... now you're fighting hand to hand with a pistol in the mix. MOST folks lack the pistol training to be effective in those low light high stress scenarios. If you're that confident in your handgun marksmanship under duress, more power to you.... you're in the vast minority.
In CQB scenario where an attacker can close nearly any in-home distance in a second or less, I'll take the targeting forgiveness and one-shot KO power of a shotgun.
Regarding drywall penetration, ANY round effective enough to penetrate a body is going to penetrate drywall. However many studies have shown real-world overshooting risk is comparable between Buck and most handgun calibers.