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Dynasty & Redraft: QB Mitch Trubisky, Bears

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Browns coach Hue Jackson and executive VP of football operations Sashi Brown skipped North Carolina QB Mitchell Trubisky's pro day workout on Tuesday.

No biggie; Cleveland has already scheduled Trubisky for a private workout. NFL.com's Bucky Brooks slots Trubisky No. 25 to the Texans. The Jets and 49ers have been both sniffing around Trubisky recently.
 
 
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5 minutes ago, Faust said:

Cleveland has already scheduled Trubisky for a private workout. NFL.com's Bucky Brooks slots Trubisky

Add, he is a local product so the visit does not count against the Browns visitations.

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Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline writes that North Carolina QB Mitchell Trubisky "struggled with his accuracy" during Tuesday's pro day throwing drills.

Trubisky did show off the requisite arm strength on Tuesday, but where that arm strength led the ball is another matter completely. Notes Pauline, "Receivers were adjusting to errant throws or leaving their feet to grab passes high of the mark. On occasion the ball left his hand funny and Trubisky was way off the target." In assessing the pro day work of both Clemson QB Deshaun Watson (last week) and Trubisky, Pauline believes Watson was the more consistent thrower. We would not be surprised to see Watson drafted before Trubisky on Day 1, though this quarterback class remains relatively fluid.
 
 
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Mar 21 - 7:58 PM

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I really dont like tribusky.  People like his accuracy and ability to go thru his progressions but there are serious problems.  He is absolutely terrible at reading defenses. He has no pocket presence.  He will stand there looking downfield and get buried by some edge guy HARD. Cant see the blitz if his life depended on it.  Also, he fumbles a LOT. He even fumbled once by accidently running into a referee!!!!   That makes him sound like a cleveland brown right there. 

Id rather have kizer.  Some may knock kizers accuracy but that can improve.  Kizer has bad footwork but that is something coaches can fix and then his accuracy jumps. Lack of pocket awareness and fumbling usually never improve. 

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I think one of the ways people make flawed analysis is that they rank prospects by flaws when they should rank them by flaws most likely to be fixed.  Footwork is a rather easy fix.  Fumbling and lack of pocket awareness isnt.  So when people drop kizer for some inaccurate throws i think that poor analysis. When they gloss over tribuskys issues again i think that bad analysis 

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Tribusky probably gets picked high and busts. Kizer likely falls to the chiefs and andy reid will just fix his footwork and win a super bowl. 

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Was a little worried the 49ers brainRUST would collectively mix their brain noodles and take Trubisky at #2. Since they signed Hoyer and a backup that shows me the huge man crush Shanny has for Kirk Cousins. Since we need to rebuild the whole team might as well wait a year on Shanny's guy. I don't,see a standout guy in this class of QB's so might as well wait a year and if we don't get Cousins maybe next year's QB class might have a couple guys at QB. I'm,sure we'll have a#5 pick or lower. Maybe even #1. So they need to use their head, trade down from #2 and trade down further if need be to get someone that'll be a 9er for a while. Good luck Mitchell Trubisky.

 

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I have to laugh at this. The guy seems to be on top of the world and then a couple bad reviews or throws and suddenly he's the next bust. I'm not saying he's a home run next Aaron Rodgers, but this is what scouts had to say about Rodgers before the draft. Im seeing a lot of the same stuff thrown around regarding Trubisky. Again, not saying he will be as good as Rodgers but saying we all should take what these scouts say with a grain of sand. They're wrong probably more often than they're right. 

 

Marc Ross, Buffalo: "He's a little short. The thing you worry about is those (Jeff) Tedford guys. They don't do anything for a couple years and then they have a good year or two. Who of his quarterbacks has done what they're supposed to do? None of them. Is he just working magic with great college quarterbacks or just manufacturing guys?"

AFC scout: "I like him. He's a very talented guy. A lot of quarterbacks that were system people have not done very well. That puts up a red flag. Not that he is one of them. He could be an exception. But I can't get it out of my craw."

Rich Snead, Tennessee: "I like him. I just don't know if he's maxed out. He's more accurate than (Kyle) Boller but probably not as athletic. He's a better player than Akili Smith. He's more athletic than (Trent) Dilfer was. He's a little more mobile than Joey Harrington. He had to go to a JC because no one would recruit him because they said he was too small. He's been busting his (expletive) his whole life to get to this point. I just don't know how much more he has to give."

NFC scout: "(Alex) Smith is the better athlete."

AFC scout: "I think he has some upside although there are some things that are just ordinary about him."

Jerry Angelo, Chicago: "I'd give Rodgers the edge (over Smith) just because he was easier to evaluate. And there's a little more arm. But the edge is negligible."

NFC scout: "I think he has a good chance of being a bust. Just like every other Tedford-coached quarterback. Thing I struggle with him is he gets sacked a lot. He doesn't have great ability to change the release of the football. He's mechanically very rigid. Brett Favre can change his release point and find different windows. There will be more growing pains with Alex Smith but in the end he has a much better chance to be much better."

NFC scout: "The guys that Tedford has had, what have they developed into? They're too well-schooled. So mechanical. So robotic. I don't know if they become good pro players. I think Rodgers is in that same mold."

AFC scout: "I don't like him. He's a clone of Harrington and Boller. They all throw the same way. What have those guys done? Nothing. If you take him in the second round, fine. Heady guy. They do a marvelous job of coaching quarterbacks there. I don't think he's as good as the top quarterbacks coming out last year."

AFC scout: "I don't think he's in the class of the quarterbacks that came out last year. Strong arm. Pretty good athlete. Still has some holes in his game."

Bill Polian, Indianapolis: "I see a guy who has good arm strength. I see some athletic ability. I see a guy who was pretty good with a good team. I see a guy who's in a pretty efficient offense. Am I certain that he's going to come in and lead my team to the Promised Land? I can't say that. I'm not even sure I can say that about Alex Smith."

AFC scout: "He's a system quarterback. 3-, 5-, 7-step guy. Can't create on his own. Panics under pressure. Gets flustered easy. I don't think there's a quarterback in the draft worthy of a first-round pick. I'm dead serious. None of them are worth it."

NFC scout: "He fit right into the Cal system. He probably executed that as well as anybody. He doesn't have as strong an arm as Boller but can make the same reads and play the scheme as well as Boller did.

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ESPN's Todd McShay spoke with one personnel director who compared UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky to Aaron Rodgers coming out of Cal.

Yep. That happened. "The similarities: The quick release, the arm talent and the ability stay in balance while moving his feet," McShay writes, adding time went into Rodgers' development. First round quarterbacks aren't afforded that type of time anymore, but teams with established quarterbacks could be on the lookout in the first round in the hopes of planning for the future. Trubisky could be the first or the fourth quarterback off the board.
 
 
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Mar 22 - 10:29 AM

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An area scout for an AFC team said of UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky, "There are times he looks like another Carson Wentz and then there are times he looks like Blaine Gabbert."

"He has starting qualities and he'll go early, but he better get better at seeing blitzes and throwing hot or he'll get eaten alive by the exotic packages they are throwing at quarterbacks these days," the scout said. NFL Media's Lance Zierlein comps Trubisky to Lions QB Matthew Stafford. And one personnel director who chatted with ESPN's Todd McShay made an even loftier comparison, to Aaron Rodgers when Rodgers entered the draft out of Cal.
 
 
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Mar 25 - 4:00 PM

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On 3/22/2017 at 10:38 AM, Riversco said:

Tribusky probably gets picked high and busts. Kizer likely falls to the chiefs and andy reid will just fix his footwork and win a super bowl. 

Any of the four landing in kc probably becomes my top qb from this class.  Maybe Arizona too.  Situation and coaching will be key, even more than most years. 

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Coaching will be key. I stand by my assertion that Trubisky is the best qb in this class. The class may not produce a perennial pro bowler I don't know but I really do think Trubisky will be the best.

 

however, that assumes all things are equal. If he goes to Cleveland or the Jets he may get thrust right in. He needs good coaching. Not sure those teams have it. If he can land in a place where he can sit for a year or two (KC, NO, AZ) that'd be amazing for his future. 

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The Jets private workout with Mitch Trubisky on UNC's campus takes place on Thursday.

Trubisky and the Jets have been linked for months, so the selection at No. 6 would not be a surprise. However, the Jets might be the most tight-lipped organization in the NFL and selected a quarterback in the second round who never even touched the field. The Jets roster is currently worse than it was to start the 2016 season.
 
 
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Bills owner Terry Pegula and head coach Sean McDermott attended a private workout for UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky.

It is always noteworthy when an owner tags along for on-campus workouts, as you only need to go back to last year with Jeffrey Lurie to see the impact it might have on a decision. The Bills and Tyrod Taylor worked out a contract this offseason, but it is by no means a long term commitment. Quarterback is still in play at No. 10 overall.
 
 
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The Kansas City Chiefs hosted UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky on a pre-draft visit Friday.

The Chiefs are very much in play to select Alex Smith's heir in Round 1, though it doesn't appear likely that Trubisky will drop to their slot at No. 27 overall. That said, the odds are quite good that at least one of the Draft's top four quarterbacks (Clemson's Deshaun Watson, Notre Dame's DeShone Kizer and Texas Tech's Patrick Mahomes being the others) will be there, so Kansas City is wise to do their due diligence if they're serious about acquiring their quarterback of the future later this month.
 
 
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Appearing on the Rotoworld Football Podcast, Eric Galko of Optimum Scouting passed along word that UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky reached out to the Bills for advice prior to declaring for the NFL draft.

This was prior to the Bills hiring Sean McDermott, but the Bills have been closely analyzing the quarterbacks during the entire process, to the point of the owner flying to campuses to watch private workouts. We think the Bills are the likeliest team to move up for a passer and Trubisky could be their top signal caller.
 
 
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Apr 19 - 11:17 AM

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Yahoo Sports' Charles Robinson has heard from "adamant" evaluators over the last week that the Browns, 49ers, Bears and Bills are targeting UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky.

These are all usual suspects when it comes to Trubisky. Breaking them down, we would be surprised to see Trubisky at No. 1 to Cleveland, but No. 2 to the 49ers wouldn't completely shock -- though San Francisco is reportedly looking to trade down from No. 2. There has been less talk of Trubisky to the Bears and considerably more about Deshaun Watson to the Bills. Expect to hear plenty more adamant evaluators over the next week. Then, showtime.
 
 
Source: Yahoo Sports 
Apr 20 - 7:34 PM

 

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ESPN's Jon Gruden Analyzes 2017 QB Draft Class

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Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina

"Do the 13 starts concern me? Yes, they do. I don't remember many quarterbacks with just 13 career starts. They didn't finish strong, either. They lost in the bowl game to Stanford. The Virginia Tech game was not good. They lost to Duke in a big game. I would have liked to see him stay (in school). But, he is talented, and he did get results. He had some really good moments - in Tallahassee against Florida State and bringing them back to beat Pitt. He's a dual-threat. I don't think people realize how athletic Trubisky is. He's still a big mystery to a lot of people. It will be very interesting to see how high he goes."

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According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, North Carolina QB Mitchell Trubisky is still "under serious consideration" by the Browns for the first overall pick in next week's draft.

There's little question that Texas A&M Myles Garrett is the most talented player in this year's draft, but the Browns need to weigh that against their need for a franchise quarterback. If the Browns pass on Trubisky with the first pick, it's unlikely he'd be available when they pick again at No. 12. The front office reportedly favors taking Trubisky first overall while the coaching staff is dead-set on Garrett. It will be fascinating to see this tug of war play out over the next five days.
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if they burn the 1st overall pick on this guy, they're dumber than I thought. There's no way they can roll the dice on him at 1.01. Take Garret and try to find a QB later in the draft (or trade up from 1.12 ffs)

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the 49ers are "strongly considering" taking a quarterback at No. 2 overall.

Evaluators seem split on who the actual top quarterback in this class is, but "those who know" coach Kyle Shanahan believe UNC's Mitchell Trubisky "would best fit" Shanahan's offense. The 49ers have also been mentioned as a team looking to trade down, so it's impossible to know for sure what these teams are thinking. After (we assume) Myles Garrett goes No. 1, the first round is up in the air.
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Apr 24 - 9:42 AM

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On ‎2017‎-‎04‎-‎22 at 2:28 PM, dipandglide said:

if they burn the 1st overall pick on this guy, they're dumber than I thought. There's no way they can roll the dice on him at 1.01. Take Garret and try to find a QB later in the draft (or trade up from 1.12 ffs)

And trading up from 1.12 for one of these QB prospects is not dumb???  None of these QB's should be taken in the first 16 picks.  A huge mistake for sure. 

And I still say any team who drafts one of these QB's early, like a Cleveland, or the Jets or 49ers or Bills will only suck in 2017 and end up having a top 5 pick for the 2018 draft, and have a great chance to get one of these 3-4-5 QB's who could be studs.

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So as a local NC guy, I really don't remember Trubisky...what I mean by this, is that in the FB-starved area of Raleigh-Durham, the last great QB who was a household name was Rivers.  After that, they were PO'ed about the way Russell Wilson was shown the door, and there have been blips like Mike Glennon and Thad Lewis.  Where I am going with this is, I don't remember much hype (at all) around Trubisky.  Even the die-hards are like "I don't get it".  that gives me enough pause to wonder whether he is the next Blaine Gabbert.  Sure, "we" did not know about Carson Wentz, but I bet you the people in North (hell, maybe south) dakota did.  You know a good one when it is there.  Nothing is coming from local people that he is it.   Now, I am not naive enough to think that the masses can predict QB greatness, but I think having a little buzz is warranted.  At this rate, we are not talking a flyer; we are talking someone burning a high pick (or mortgaging the future on one).  Personally, with the talent coming out next year, and next year's crop of guys who "surprise" and hold the golden ticket of FA, he is a gamble at best.  I wish the guy the best, but I wouldn't want him for my team...a team that has been searching for a QB since Namath.

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A scout speaking to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel said UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky has "a ceiling to be a solid starter like Alex Smith."

This isn't the first time we've heard this comp. "There’s a smaller variance between his floor and ceiling than Mahomes," the scout said. "He does some good things but doesn’t get me excited. If he hits he’s like from 10 to 20 among the quarterbacks. Him being a one-year wonder is problematic." Trubisky has also been compared to Kirk Cousins. "You’ve got to try with him," another scout said. "He’s the best of the bunch. You just wish he played more. The guy he played behind was terrible. Kind of a concern. As far as the physical gifts, he’s got everything. He’s got the poise, and he works hard." Trubisky is in play to go anywhere from No. 2 down -- and there's been talk, which we don't buy, that Cleveland is considering him at No. 1. "Can sling the ball but his feet get a little bit happy under pressure," a third scout said. "I don’t think he’s a quick mental processor. That’s going to take some time. I don’t know if guys will rall
 
 
Apr 25 - 12:27 PM

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NFL Network's Steve Wyche was told by a team source that the 49ers are interested in North Carolina quarterback Mitchell Trubisky.

In addition to that, 49ers CEO Jed York talked about the importance of finding a star quarterback on Wednesday. "You need to get the best players, wherever they are, whatever you need to do, you need to find the best players," York told Wyche. "It's proven that if you don't have a superstar quarterback, you're probably not getting to the Super Bowl and you're probably not winning a Super Bowl." Whether San Francisco's interest in Trubisky is legitimate or a ploy to convince a team like Cleveland to pony up for a trade, we cannot say. We'll find out tomorrow night.
 
 
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Apr 26 - 4:52 PM

 

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ESPN’s Adam Schefter cited "very smart" sources who think the Browns will select UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky No. 1 overall instead of Texas A&M DE Myles Garrett.

"I continue to hear that Mitchell Trubisky is square in consideration and may turn out to be the No. 1 pick," Schefter said. "Now I know everyone thinks Myles Garrett’s going to be the pick, and I will not be surprised if that’s the case ... But I have got very smart, very well-connected people telling me over the last 24 hours that they think Trubisky’s going to be the No. 1 pick." This would be a true stunner. With the assumption that Cleveland would take Garrett in mind, we didn't understood why Cleveland would let it leak that they were considering taking Trubisky No. 1 overall, since that news would only serve to steal leverage in trade talks if and when they attempted to move up from No. 12. Those reports would begin to make sense if Cleveland actually intended to take Trubisky. Thursday night is going to be a wild ride.
 
 
Source: ESPN 
Apr 26 - 8:49 PM

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2017 NFL Draft Live Analysis: Fantasy Football Values Round 1

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Chicago Bears: Mitchell Trubisky, QB – First surprise, and it’s a doozy. Bears gave up a bunch to move up one spot and grab their quarterback of the future. As mentioned in the pre-draft write-up, Trubisky only has one year starting in college and ideally needs a year to develop. I would expect Mike Glennon to be the Bears starting quarterback in 2017 with Trubisky learning behind him. Obviously, that means Trubisky isn’t draft worthy in redraft leagues. For dynasty and keeper leagues, Trubisky has a high ceiling with his mobility, athletic ability and a NFL arm. He also has high bust potential. Trubisky could become a QB1 in Fantasy with the right develop and work on his mechanics or he could bust and never be worthy of a roster spot.

 

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