Chicago Hooligan
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Meh, they were acting like they won the Super Bowl before the season even started. Same thing in 2014.
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QB Mitch Trubisky, BUF (5 Viewers)
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Practiced in full today per Adam Jahns
The Frankman
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Brandon Will
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So now all the announcers and reporters on Get Up are saying how Mitch Trubisky has taken this offense to a new level....
Just last week he was the 31st ranked QB... and the worst in football.
Make up your minds.
Just last week he was the 31st ranked QB... and the worst in football.
Make up your minds.
Brandon Will
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....not to mention hes in my bench in the 1st week of playoffs
Pigskin Fanatic
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i'm guessing Mitch was on most people's bench, if not on the wire, for this one. i dropped him a few weeks ago, picked him up due to a lack of options, and he sat on my bench.
Borrowing this from the Bears thread, Mitch can be a great QB in the right system. But he's not good enough to overcome situations he's uncomfortable with. It felt like Nagy wanted to be a running team around D Mont and that, i assume, changed his blocking scheme. That o-line, like Mitch, I think couldn't get there, because both are not upper tier in the league imo. for this game it gelled well, largely because Detroit sucks, but i hope they move forward with this kind of game planning around Mitch.
Borrowing this from the Bears thread, Mitch can be a great QB in the right system. But he's not good enough to overcome situations he's uncomfortable with. It felt like Nagy wanted to be a running team around D Mont and that, i assume, changed his blocking scheme. That o-line, like Mitch, I think couldn't get there, because both are not upper tier in the league imo. for this game it gelled well, largely because Detroit sucks, but i hope they move forward with this kind of game planning around Mitch.
Chicago Hooligan
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extend Mitch
Chicago Hooligan
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PS. If we're counting this as a "signature win" let's document that the Cowboys are 3-7 in their last 10 games.
The Frankman
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kittenmittens
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If most of the old guard doesn't retire and Big Ben comes back healthy, there seems like almost no chance Trubisky is the starter next year. The only way it happens is if the Bears leadership decides to go down with the Trubisky ship right in the face of better available options, which is possible I guess.
I think this because the Bears are going to have outstanding leverage with free agent QBs this offseason. The offseason is likely to leave several QBs available in FA who all want a starting role. The Bears are going to end up sitting there with Mitch slotted in as there starter staring at more than two of Cam Newton, Teddy Bridgewater, Andy Dalton, Jameis Winston available. We are probably looking at 30 to 45 starting caliber QBs after this QB class comes in with Burrow, Tua, Herbert (these 3 definitely will get a shot) along with Eason, Love, Fromm, Hurts (1 or 2 at least might get 1st round draft capital).
Lets rank/tier them:
Elite TIer (5): Mahomes, Jackson, Wilson, Watson, Prescott
Great Tier (4): Rodgers, Wentz, Ryan, Stafford
Declining Elite Tier (5) : Brady, Rivers, Big Ben, Brees, Newton
Good Tier (3): Cousins, Goff, Garrapolo
Unproven Good Tier (5): Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, Jones, Allen
Average Tier (5): Carr, Tannehill, Dalton, Bridgewater, Winston
Still Unproven Tier (6): Haskins, Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Minshew, Lock
-------------- STARTER REPLACEMENT LINE (33 QBs above this) ---------------------
Still Better than Mitch Tier (4): Foles, Brissett, Mariota, Mullens
Lesser Rookie Tier (4): Love, Eason, Fromm, Hurts
Maybe still better than Mitch Tier (3): Flacco, Fitztrajic, Rosen
Long shot Tier (2): Alex Smith, Taysom Hill
--------------- MITCH LINE (46 QBs above this) -----------------------------
Somehow still starter Tier: Mitch Trubisky
You can dispute the tiers, but how many of these players can you argue Mitch is better than?
Even if all of the players that might retire do in fact retire, there is no way Mitch should be starting in 2020. At least one of these QBs is going to be available for less than the normal amount of money in order to get a shot at showcasing themselves in a starting role for a big deal the following year.
I think it was somewhat generous of me to not list Keenum, Beathard, and Tyrod ahead of Mitch as well.
I think this because the Bears are going to have outstanding leverage with free agent QBs this offseason. The offseason is likely to leave several QBs available in FA who all want a starting role. The Bears are going to end up sitting there with Mitch slotted in as there starter staring at more than two of Cam Newton, Teddy Bridgewater, Andy Dalton, Jameis Winston available. We are probably looking at 30 to 45 starting caliber QBs after this QB class comes in with Burrow, Tua, Herbert (these 3 definitely will get a shot) along with Eason, Love, Fromm, Hurts (1 or 2 at least might get 1st round draft capital).
Lets rank/tier them:
Elite TIer (5): Mahomes, Jackson, Wilson, Watson, Prescott
Great Tier (4): Rodgers, Wentz, Ryan, Stafford
Declining Elite Tier (5) : Brady, Rivers, Big Ben, Brees, Newton
Good Tier (3): Cousins, Goff, Garrapolo
Unproven Good Tier (5): Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, Jones, Allen
Average Tier (5): Carr, Tannehill, Dalton, Bridgewater, Winston
Still Unproven Tier (6): Haskins, Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Minshew, Lock
-------------- STARTER REPLACEMENT LINE (33 QBs above this) ---------------------
Still Better than Mitch Tier (4): Foles, Brissett, Mariota, Mullens
Lesser Rookie Tier (4): Love, Eason, Fromm, Hurts
Maybe still better than Mitch Tier (3): Flacco, Fitztrajic, Rosen
Long shot Tier (2): Alex Smith, Taysom Hill
--------------- MITCH LINE (46 QBs above this) -----------------------------
Somehow still starter Tier: Mitch Trubisky
You can dispute the tiers, but how many of these players can you argue Mitch is better than?
Even if all of the players that might retire do in fact retire, there is no way Mitch should be starting in 2020. At least one of these QBs is going to be available for less than the normal amount of money in order to get a shot at showcasing themselves in a starting role for a big deal the following year.
I think it was somewhat generous of me to not list Keenum, Beathard, and Tyrod ahead of Mitch as well.
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I didn't read the article but it bugs me from the standpoint of the Bears signing 3 FAs because of their failure to draft players at those positions. (Mitch, Floyd and Shaheen). That is 2 high firsts and a 2nd. I am glad they are moving on (Not necessarily from Mitch) but they need to start hitting on their top draft choices when they aren't traded away. I know this is a Mitch thread so I won't discuss the other moves but the title of the article rubs me the wrong way but I'll get over it.
I still hope to be proven wrong about Mitch LOL. I heard one of the "experts" on ESPN say if you watch his highlight film you would think he was as good as any of the top QBs in football because he can make all the throws and is loaded with talent. What they neglected to mention is that he makes those throws when the team is down by double digits against soft defenses. Maybe he did have issues with his non-throwing shoulder and the play calling. There was a short period last year where he looked competent but he looked awful again when the competition got tougher.
I'm not so sure. Everything I'm hearing about Foles sounds like what I heard last year. Reuniting with Defillipo, in Philly system, etc,etc. Near as I can tell he's reunited with Defillipo again and only major difference is he's back with Nagy but but he only spent one year with Nagy 4 years ago and barely played.
Foles stunk and is just not such an upgrade I don't think Trubisky can prevail in time over him. And from I understand about Foles he should actually help both push and mentor Trubisky.
Foles is better imo, but leaving Foles aside I think it's over. Maybe Trubisky starts some games this year but the writing is on the wall.
Widbil83
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Just from a strict accuracy standpoint Foles is light years better. I was one of the bigger Mitch apologists until finally waking up around week 4 last year and realizing he’s just too inaccurate.
Mark Football
Footballguy
Ok NOW he's motivated. That's good, he'll be good now......
