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I just traded AB for trubisky, Mark Ingram, a 2020 1st rd and 2nd rd pick. Agreed on his trajectory. He was actually a solid fantasy qb last year and looks to be taking a step forward in year 2 in nagy’s system
I’m on the fence. Pff had an article about him being one of the worst qbs last year. Their position was that Nagy created a lot of easy throws for him. Will be an interesting year and I own quite a few shares of him in dynasty so hoping he makes a leap.
PFF could easily be right based on the numbers. Trubisky was a terrible deep ball thrower last year. You could see how bad he was on deep throws at games. But if Nagy creates easy throws for him, and Trubisky is producing in that great system, then he should be good for multiple years because Nagy won't be going anywhere for a long while.voiceofunreason said:
I thought he got better after a rocky start. I watched a game early in the year and he was brutal, overthrowing guys by 10 yards.
Do you mean we don't know if he'll develop enough to hit his ceiling because with the weapons he has, the offensive system, and he's rushing upside his ceiling is #1 QB in FF.
I agree with everything about his situation, and I actually like him as a player, but how much he can develop is part of his ceiling imo. If he doesn’t develop better accuracy the rest of that stuff alone will not be enough to raise him to 1QB because that’s a crowded field as is.
Yeah I think that's what hankmoody meant too. I guess I'm really intrigued with his upside because of his running ability. If he develops, and he's only 24 so he definitely can, he could potentially jump into the top 5 real quick.
The thing is, his accuracy was one of that traits they touted as his strengths entering the 2017 NFL draft. And while I have not done any research on his accuracy, if true, it tells me that his accuracy issues could be simply due to the change in the speed of the game and learning a new offense - one year in a complex system with no WR's from the previous year. Additionally, one of the knocks on Trubisky was his lack of playing time - 13 total games played in college. The perfect storm is there and this year will be telling but I am expecting him to take the next step. He has a high ceiling.
I hear what you are saying about Nagy but I think that was the plan for Trubisky last year. Small steps, limit the chances of breaking his confidence. Quote from Nagy below on the upcoming season:
Nagy isn't exactly unleashing the dragon with Trubisky so far. Maybe he will this year. Last year Trubisky would come out and tear it up the first series or two it seemed and then the offense got more predictable and more risk adverse. Almost like the first 10-15 plays were scripted. We need more of that.
Now trailing by only 113, Trubisky looks to cut the lead to double digits in 2019. Godspeed.
If he has a long career he will definitely surpass that total. Maybe he has his sites set on Brett Favre.
Silva is a known Trubisky basher. Cherry picks anything that suits his anti-Trubisky narrative (in line with the rest of the national media it seems), doesn't tweet any of the positives. Not to say he hasn't been inconsistent or there aren't areas for improvement, but I wouldn't take much notice of What Silva tweets about him. He's already a bust in his eyes.
I think it's because the narrative all along has been that he's terrible. That matters in terms of rankings and perception.
I wouldn't completely trust it if it was just Silva's take. He does seem to want to prove himself right about Trubisky being a bust (similar to some on a fantasy football message board). But Silva is citing the Chicago Tribune so it isn't really his opinion. And the Tribune is probably the most credible source on the Bears with the possible exception of a few national media figures. Here is the part of the Tribune article about Trubisky in context (it isn't quite as bad as Silva makes it out to be but it ain't good) :
From what I gathered, Nagy instructed Trubisky to take chances while in training camp just to see what kind of shenanigans he could get away with. This is consistent with Nagy's bolded quote, where it sounds like that time has ended having learned what they needed; now they need to prepare to play football based off of that. Silva doesn't consider this context, probably doesn't even know about it. He has a point to prove after all.
So maybe Trubisky is more Alex Smith game manager than Patrick Mahomes gunslinger. That isn't surprising. He can still be a legit NFL quarterback. But it does put a damper on his fantasy prospects. I wasn't targeting him this year due to the glut of quality quarterbacks anyhow. But this might make me less likely to draft Allen Robinson who I was liking at his 6th round adp.
I like Brett Kollman, that’s a good one.
Why would anyone take the first preseason game to make any predictions like that. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. They barely had any starters in and they didn't use much of their playbook.Tanner9919 said:
