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The Russia Investigation: Trump Pardons Flynn (6 Viewers)
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ericttspikes
Footballguy
zoonation
Footballguy
I'm with you, but you are giving him too much credit. Nuance and accuracy are not his thing. His use of the word "evidence" being a prime example. Intellectual honesty is not something Hannity sycophants care about. But they don't need to in order to believe the garbage that he spews every night.
Anyway, I get what you are saying and am with you.
SWC
Bromigo
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
There are a lot of funny Trumpite claims but the ‘Hillary paid $12 million for a work of fiction’ is the funniest one.
-fish-
Footballguy
These are not the same. One is a false statement about evidence of Russian involvement with the Trump campaign followed by a true statement that Hillary lost. The other is an irrelevant statement regarding Obama's knowledge of Russian interference followed by your personal conjecture about what would have happened had Hillary won.
Two entirely different things.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Continue to work to more completely marginalize the people who think its a good idea to vote for someone like Trump. it'll happen eventually.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Oh I dunno I’ll probably make it up to the big Orange goofball by staying at one of his properties, say Panama, Moscow or Baku, you know, something exotic and corrupt.
-fish-
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
The concern is he's conducting extemporaneous foreign policy from his bedroom without any kind of plan, without any guidance (even if it is from a cohort of clowns), and he's really bad at it. Listening to the other clowns would actually be an improvement in this case. Him working on his instincts uninhibited when dealing with the rest of the world is a really, really bad thing for all of us.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
... that she buried until after the election for some reason.
Don’t you just hate it when the liberal echo chamber shouts down brilliant arguments that deserve to be heard like this stroke of genius?
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Even if your summary were accurate - which it isn't - yeah, the whole "stole" part of it is problematic. Criminal in fact.
Koya
Footballguy
No.
Its the concern that they may have gone further than that to some degree... but the real concern for me at least, is how this plays into the overall context of possible coordination with foreign agents to influence our elections. That's bad enough if it's folks in Trumps or his campaigns circles, much much worse if this was done with Trumps inner circle involved or even knowing, and obviously worst ye. If it's Trump. Bobby M needs to shed some light on where those issues stand.
Because the picture we see is one where it's at the least possible that some coordination existed between Americans working on behalf of Trump and Russians that portray a coordinated scheme using the FB data, perhaps the data stolen/hacked from various servers, possible tying into the hacking of voter data rolls etc...
So while the acts themselves are concerning (maybe more or less so depending on the legalities and all), that's not such a big deal. The fear that such efforts were one cog on this coordinated machine using Russian resources tactics and agents - THAT'S what's so frightening
-fish-
Footballguy
Listening to the morons and yes-men he's surrounded himself with isn't going to be any better. Outrage about Trump not listening to staffers is a stupid issue. Congratulating Putin is a stupid issue. Again, this is the type of non-substantial garbage that is typical of talk show hosts. There are substantial issues that have far more importance. This is a dumb distraction.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
No, but can we still talk about how hilarious it is that you seem to be sarcastically proposing that stealing things and paying for them are the same thing?
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Congratulating Putin on winning a rigged election is substantial - on its face, due to the manner in which it was done, and particularly in the context of his relationship with the leader of an essentially rogue state. Even the idiots who advise him recognized its a bad idea, that's the point here. Its possibly more substantial in the context of being President than whether he committed adultery with Stormy Daniels and 200 other women.
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ShamrockPride
Footballguy
I'd guess the same thing as before. Blame Russia. Fearmonger something something about an imminent WWIII. Ignore the actual issues and fault that lays with the Democratic party.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
There is some really funny stuff. I mean it’s horrible and (yes) threatens our democracy but it’s funny. Like where Hannity and Sessions and Co. go to extreme lengths to instruct us that the IG & OPR acted properly and according to Hoyle in canning McCabe, but then Trump immediately starts madtweeting that he wanted McCabe canned before he’s whisked off to golf and then he hires diGenova who, wrapped in turtleneck, intones that Strzok corrupted the Fisa process by holding a cocktail party. Ok.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Eh, you’re doing it wrong. That’s the Trumpite line. At least check the memo in advance, thanks.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
squistion
Footballguy
Have the original sanctions been enforced by Trump as required by law, or did I miss that?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I recall a report a while back that the reason Ryan appointed him as chairman & tolerated his moonbattery was his fundraising prowess.
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cosjobs
Footballguy
Fortunately the entire country is attached to that clown car riding inside a homemade trailer made out of the back of a pickup truck.
squistion
Footballguy
cosjobs
Footballguy
Probably tie my husband up with some of Trump's finest neckwear and celebrate another 4 years of marital gay bliss. What are you doing to do, big boy?
cosjobs
Footballguy
No. Mercerer backed Cruz using CA until it was obvious that Trump would win the nomination, then they jumped ship.
-fish-
Footballguy
No, Mercer switched to Trump after Cruz dropped out. According to the Channel 4 story, Mercer conditioned his support on Trump hiring CA/Bannon.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Another four years and the Log Cabin Republicans are going to throw a rejoiceful party. You should come!
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
Opie's catching mad fish today. What's up with that, fellas?
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Tired of people not being held accountable for spreading falsehoods via ignorance or outright lying. Troll or otherwise.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I don't think all of them are mad. Some seem outright gay with glee for the man.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
Meh. The back and forth does nothing to make him accountable or change his behavior. Taping his mouth shut with the "ignore" function, on the other hand...
Henry Ford
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
-fish-
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Koya
Footballguy
Best way to hold them accountable is to ignore known purveyors of outright lies. It's like the Simpsons episode where the mascots came to life... their entire sense of being is to engage you in a one sided affair where they have zero desire to pursue or admit truth not engage in any legitimate conversation.
So let's not legitimize their trolling / trolling tactics by responding and let them suck wind.
Such an effect would also have an effect to make it more fruitful when engaging in Trump fans that at least don't continually spout constant lies, as the behavior of those who do so here merely reflect that much worse on Trump supporters in general (how can I not lump these guys in with others here in these boards and in real life when they play off one another and influence overall perception of his base... quite negatively mind you. Maybe these folks are double agents sent to make Trump supporters look that much less intelligent and/or willing and able to hold a legitimate and intectually honest discussion?)
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
