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The Russia Investigation: Trump Pardons Flynn (3 Viewers)
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
I hope McCabe files an MSPB case and subpoenas documents. And testifies.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Rirruto
Footballguy
I know my opinion on this isn't popular, but I absolutely think if he did something wrong during the investigation, he should be fired. Certainly if that means he lied or misled the investigators. He's got to go. I honestly haven't followed that story, so I might be off base on the facts. But if he did something that would get an agent in Spokane fired, he has to go. That's part of being a cop.
Rirruto
Footballguy
Yeah, this sucks worse than Bunny Colvin. However, Andy McCabe is going to be pulling in 6 or 7 figures whenever he decides to.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ridiculous
skol asylum
Footballguy
McCabe says Devin Nunes full of ####.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/mccabe-republicans-trump-dossier/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/mccabe-republicans-trump-dossier/index.html
Rirruto
Footballguy
The one thing this does do is piss Andrew McCabe off and free him to say basically what he wants. If I were Trump, I would try to keep the dudes who know where the bodies are buried happy. I bet we get some fireworks over the next few days.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He was fired by JEFF "I cannot remember" SESSIONS >>> for a lack of candor!
Here are the things Jeff Session couldn't recall/remember or be candid about while under oath...
Here are the things Jeff Session couldn't recall/remember or be candid about while under oath...
Senate Judiciary Committee Confirmation Hearing
January 10, 2017
1. Why he voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Act, which extended the statute of limitations on pay discrimination cases.
2. Whether he remembers why the Lilly Ledbetter Act extended the statute of limitations; women often don't know they're experiencing pay discrimination until long after they receive their first paycheck. ("My memory is not that good.")
3. Whether he personally handled three voting rights cases, which he listed among the 10 most significant litigated matters he’d personally handled, despite three attorneys stating that he had no “substantive involvement" in them. ("Well, look, it was 30 years ago. And my memory was of this nature, and my memory was my support for those cases.")
4. Whether Trump’s surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government had a continuing exchange of information during the campaign (they did!).
Senate Intelligence Committee Hearing
June 13, 2017
5. Whether he spoke to Russian officials during an event at the Mayflower Hotel in April 2016. ("I did not have any private meetings, nor do I recall any conversations with any Russian officials at the Mayflower hotel.")
6. Whether he interacted with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, in passing.
7. Whether he remembers Kislyak being at the Mayflower Hotel.
8. Whether he remembers having a conversation with Kislyak at the Mayflower Hotel.
9. Whether he met with any other government officials in his capacity as a campaign surrogate. ("No. I've racked my brain to make sure I could answer those questions correctly and I did not. I would just offer for you that the—when asked about whether I had any meetings with Russians by the reporter in March, we immediately recalled the conversation and the encounter I had at the convention and the meeting in my office and made that public. I never intended not to include that. I would have gladly have reported the meeting and encounter that may have occurred and some say occurred in the Mayflower if I had remembered it or if it actually occurred, which I don't remember that it did.")
10. Whether he remembers when Jared Kushner met with Kislyak.
11. Whether he had conversations with Kislyak (again). ("I don't recall that, senator. Certainly I can assure you nothing improper if I had a conversation with him. It's conceivable, but I don't remember it.")
12. Whether he had anything in his notes or memory that might help correct the record. ("I guess I can say that I possibly had a meeting, but I still do not recall it. I did not in any way fail to record something in my testimony or in my subsequent letter intentionally false.")
13. Whether he remembers a February 14 New York Times article alleging repeated communications between the Trump campaign and Russians.
14. Whether he intentionally lingered before exiting the Oval Office, leaving then-FBI director James Comey alone with President Trump, who asked Comey to drop the investigation into General Michael Flynn, as reported by The New York Times.
15. Whether he ever spoke to anyone from another country, who, in hindsight, feels suspicious now.
16. Whether he knows who changed the Republican platform to deny Ukraine defensive weapons, or has any recollection of a debate over that issue.
17. Whether he had any discussions or meetings related to removing sanctions against Russia.
18. Whether he and the President had any discussions about what the Russians tried to accomplish during the presidential election, and whether they had succeeded. ("I don't recall any such conversations. I'm not sure I understood your question. Maybe I better listen again.")
19. Whether, as a member of the national security team, he remembers any discussions about concerns over Russian interference in the election.
20. Whether he had any other meetings with Russian officials that have not been previously disclosed. ("I've racked my brain and I do not believe so...I can assure you that none of those meetings discussed manipulating the campaign or the United States in any way, shape, or form, or any hacking or any such ideas.")
21. Whether there were any other meetings between Russian government officials and Trump campaign associates that had not been previously disclosed (there were!).
22. Whether Michael Flynn ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
23. Whether Reince Priebus ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
24. Whether Steven Miller ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
25. Whether Corey Lewandowski ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
26. Whether Carter Page ever met with Russian officials during the campaign. ("I don’t know... There may have been some published accounts of Mr. Page talking with Russians, I'm not sure. I don't recall though.")
27. Whether he had any communications with Russian officials for any reason during the campaign that have not been disclosed.
28. Whether he’s aware of any other Trump campaign officials and associates having any communication with Russian officials or Russian nationals. ("I don’t recall that...at this moment.")
29. Whether in his meeting with Kislyak, Sessions raised the question of Russia’s support for Syrian dictator Bashar Al Assad.
30. Whether, in that same meeting, he raised the issue of Russia’s interference in our electoral process.
31. Whether, as chairman of the Strategic Forces Subcommittee, he raised any Russia-related security issues with Kislyak.
32. What Kislyak wanted to discuss in that meeting in the first place. ("I don’t recall.")
Oversight hearing with Senate Judiciary Committee
October 18, 2017
33. Whether he discussed literally anything about emails with Russian officials.
34. Whether he discussed any policies of the Trump presidency with Russian officials. ("I met with 26 ambassadors in the last year and [Kislyak] was one of them. He came into my office with two of my senior defense specialists and met with me for a while, and I don’t recall any conversation about...what was this last subject?")
35. Whether the Special Counsel has contacted him regarding an interview.
36. Whether there was a formal process behind President Trump's decision to pardon Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio. ("I am not personally at this moment prepared to give you an accurate answer, because I don’t know that I remember or know it precisely.")
37. Whether any other president has ever personally interviewed a state attorney general candidate, besides Trump doing so for New York.
38. Whether he was involved in the decision to dismiss all of the US attorneys without any warning. ("I can’t believe I can’t remember that.")
Oversight Hearing With House Judiciary Committee
November 14, 2017
39. A second shot at his his October 18 testimony, stating he had no knowledge of Trump campaign officials having conversations with Russians or foreign officials. Both George Papadopoulos and Carter Page have since testified that they told Sessions about their contacts with Russians. ("When I was asked in October about the matter—did I have any knowledge of anyone who had talked to the Russians?— I indicated that I had not recalled that meeting when that occurred, but I would have been pleased to respond and explain it if I’d recalled it.")
40. Whether he talked to George Papadapoulos and Carter Page about engaging with Russia. ("I do now recall the March 2016 meeting at the Trump Hotel that Mr. Papadopoulos attended, but I have no clear recollection of the details of what he said at that meeting.")
41. Whether anyone else, including Trump, reacted to George Papadopoulos’s request to engage with the Kremlin.
42. Whether he communicated with anyone in the campaign about the same after the March 31 meeting.
43. Whether he ever discussed Papadopoulos’s effort with any members of Congress. ("I don’t recall at this moment sitting here any such discussions.")
44. Whether he discussed any changes to the Republican platform with General Michael Flynn at any point during the campaign.
45. Whether Carter Page told him he was going to Moscow at a June 30 meeting at the Capitol Hill Club. ("I don’t recall that conversation, but I’m not able to dispute it.")
46. Why James Comey was allowed to confirm the existence of the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation on March 20, 2017.
47. Whether he told Carter Page he shouldn’t go to Russia.
https://www.wired.com/story/everything-jeff-sessions-did-not-recall-under-oath/
January 10, 2017
1. Why he voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Act, which extended the statute of limitations on pay discrimination cases.
2. Whether he remembers why the Lilly Ledbetter Act extended the statute of limitations; women often don't know they're experiencing pay discrimination until long after they receive their first paycheck. ("My memory is not that good.")
3. Whether he personally handled three voting rights cases, which he listed among the 10 most significant litigated matters he’d personally handled, despite three attorneys stating that he had no “substantive involvement" in them. ("Well, look, it was 30 years ago. And my memory was of this nature, and my memory was my support for those cases.")
4. Whether Trump’s surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government had a continuing exchange of information during the campaign (they did!).
Senate Intelligence Committee Hearing
June 13, 2017
5. Whether he spoke to Russian officials during an event at the Mayflower Hotel in April 2016. ("I did not have any private meetings, nor do I recall any conversations with any Russian officials at the Mayflower hotel.")
6. Whether he interacted with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, in passing.
7. Whether he remembers Kislyak being at the Mayflower Hotel.
8. Whether he remembers having a conversation with Kislyak at the Mayflower Hotel.
9. Whether he met with any other government officials in his capacity as a campaign surrogate. ("No. I've racked my brain to make sure I could answer those questions correctly and I did not. I would just offer for you that the—when asked about whether I had any meetings with Russians by the reporter in March, we immediately recalled the conversation and the encounter I had at the convention and the meeting in my office and made that public. I never intended not to include that. I would have gladly have reported the meeting and encounter that may have occurred and some say occurred in the Mayflower if I had remembered it or if it actually occurred, which I don't remember that it did.")
10. Whether he remembers when Jared Kushner met with Kislyak.
11. Whether he had conversations with Kislyak (again). ("I don't recall that, senator. Certainly I can assure you nothing improper if I had a conversation with him. It's conceivable, but I don't remember it.")
12. Whether he had anything in his notes or memory that might help correct the record. ("I guess I can say that I possibly had a meeting, but I still do not recall it. I did not in any way fail to record something in my testimony or in my subsequent letter intentionally false.")
13. Whether he remembers a February 14 New York Times article alleging repeated communications between the Trump campaign and Russians.
14. Whether he intentionally lingered before exiting the Oval Office, leaving then-FBI director James Comey alone with President Trump, who asked Comey to drop the investigation into General Michael Flynn, as reported by The New York Times.
15. Whether he ever spoke to anyone from another country, who, in hindsight, feels suspicious now.
16. Whether he knows who changed the Republican platform to deny Ukraine defensive weapons, or has any recollection of a debate over that issue.
17. Whether he had any discussions or meetings related to removing sanctions against Russia.
18. Whether he and the President had any discussions about what the Russians tried to accomplish during the presidential election, and whether they had succeeded. ("I don't recall any such conversations. I'm not sure I understood your question. Maybe I better listen again.")
19. Whether, as a member of the national security team, he remembers any discussions about concerns over Russian interference in the election.
20. Whether he had any other meetings with Russian officials that have not been previously disclosed. ("I've racked my brain and I do not believe so...I can assure you that none of those meetings discussed manipulating the campaign or the United States in any way, shape, or form, or any hacking or any such ideas.")
21. Whether there were any other meetings between Russian government officials and Trump campaign associates that had not been previously disclosed (there were!).
22. Whether Michael Flynn ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
23. Whether Reince Priebus ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
24. Whether Steven Miller ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
25. Whether Corey Lewandowski ever met with Russian officials during the campaign.
26. Whether Carter Page ever met with Russian officials during the campaign. ("I don’t know... There may have been some published accounts of Mr. Page talking with Russians, I'm not sure. I don't recall though.")
27. Whether he had any communications with Russian officials for any reason during the campaign that have not been disclosed.
28. Whether he’s aware of any other Trump campaign officials and associates having any communication with Russian officials or Russian nationals. ("I don’t recall that...at this moment.")
29. Whether in his meeting with Kislyak, Sessions raised the question of Russia’s support for Syrian dictator Bashar Al Assad.
30. Whether, in that same meeting, he raised the issue of Russia’s interference in our electoral process.
31. Whether, as chairman of the Strategic Forces Subcommittee, he raised any Russia-related security issues with Kislyak.
32. What Kislyak wanted to discuss in that meeting in the first place. ("I don’t recall.")
Oversight hearing with Senate Judiciary Committee
October 18, 2017
33. Whether he discussed literally anything about emails with Russian officials.
34. Whether he discussed any policies of the Trump presidency with Russian officials. ("I met with 26 ambassadors in the last year and [Kislyak] was one of them. He came into my office with two of my senior defense specialists and met with me for a while, and I don’t recall any conversation about...what was this last subject?")
35. Whether the Special Counsel has contacted him regarding an interview.
36. Whether there was a formal process behind President Trump's decision to pardon Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio. ("I am not personally at this moment prepared to give you an accurate answer, because I don’t know that I remember or know it precisely.")
37. Whether any other president has ever personally interviewed a state attorney general candidate, besides Trump doing so for New York.
38. Whether he was involved in the decision to dismiss all of the US attorneys without any warning. ("I can’t believe I can’t remember that.")
Oversight Hearing With House Judiciary Committee
November 14, 2017
39. A second shot at his his October 18 testimony, stating he had no knowledge of Trump campaign officials having conversations with Russians or foreign officials. Both George Papadopoulos and Carter Page have since testified that they told Sessions about their contacts with Russians. ("When I was asked in October about the matter—did I have any knowledge of anyone who had talked to the Russians?— I indicated that I had not recalled that meeting when that occurred, but I would have been pleased to respond and explain it if I’d recalled it.")
40. Whether he talked to George Papadapoulos and Carter Page about engaging with Russia. ("I do now recall the March 2016 meeting at the Trump Hotel that Mr. Papadopoulos attended, but I have no clear recollection of the details of what he said at that meeting.")
41. Whether anyone else, including Trump, reacted to George Papadopoulos’s request to engage with the Kremlin.
42. Whether he communicated with anyone in the campaign about the same after the March 31 meeting.
43. Whether he ever discussed Papadopoulos’s effort with any members of Congress. ("I don’t recall at this moment sitting here any such discussions.")
44. Whether he discussed any changes to the Republican platform with General Michael Flynn at any point during the campaign.
45. Whether Carter Page told him he was going to Moscow at a June 30 meeting at the Capitol Hill Club. ("I don’t recall that conversation, but I’m not able to dispute it.")
46. Why James Comey was allowed to confirm the existence of the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation on March 20, 2017.
47. Whether he told Carter Page he shouldn’t go to Russia.
https://www.wired.com/story/everything-jeff-sessions-did-not-recall-under-oath/
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
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[scooter]
Footballguy
It does hurt his family, but he's not actually losing his entire pension. He's losing the portion that he would have been able to collect immediately, but he'll still be able to collect a regular pension starting at age 57. Also, if he's ever re-hired by the federal government then he'll be eligible for the higher pension again.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I don’t actually know if MSPB is the right entity.... but basically a suit for violation of civil service regulations in employment.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
We have no idea what Comey has done or said. He would have done or said it with Mueller.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Well, you can't fire someone who is already retired, and McCabe was planning to retire on Sunday.
Rirruto
Footballguy
Bad example. Comey leaked a bunch of #### to his friends and to the media in a successful effort to get a special counsel appointed. If McCabe goes half that hard, it will be awesome.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Deep State: Activated
Rirruto
Footballguy
McCabe released a statement saying he was truthful and this is all cooked up to discredit him as a witness. I'll wait to see the report, but I like and want to believe McCabe. I hope my initial post was stupid.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
why is he retiring if he did nothing wrong
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Reg Lllama of Brixton
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
So how many obstruction of justice charges can trump be nailed with now??
Well, Sessions actually did it. Despite being recused. Funny how that works
Righetti
Footballguy
Righetti
Footballguy
Spicer was back at the white house yesterday.
Likely trying to get his old job back......
as the easter bunny
Righetti
Footballguy
McCabe: "This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals... It is part of this Administration’s ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel."
Righetti
Footballguy
CNN: A representative for Andrew McCabe says he learned from a press release that he had been fired by Sessions.
moleculo
Footballguy
I don't see how this is obstruction of justice. Vindictive, petty, partisan and possibly illegal, but not obstruction.
Sand
Footballguy
John Bender
Footballguy
Just pathetic, absolutely uncalled for an pathetic. If you defend this action even the slightest bit, I'm no longer biting my tongue, you are a not a good person. Good people don't do stuff like this.
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John Bender
Footballguy
Statement by Andrew McCabe
I have been an FBI Special Agent for over 21 years. I spent half of that time investigating Russian Organized Crime as a street agent and Supervisor in New York City. I have spent the second half of my career focusing on national security issues and protecting this country from terrorism. I served in some of the most challenging, demanding investigative and leadership roles in the FBI. And I was privileged to serve as Deputy Director during a particularly tough time.
For the last year and a half, my family and I have been the targets of an unrelenting assault on our reputation and my service to this country. Articles too numerous to count have leveled every sort of false, defamatory and degrading allegation against us. The President's tweets have amplified and exacerbated it all. He called for my firing. He called for me to be stripped of my pension after more than 20 years of service. And all along we have said nothing, never wanting to distract from the mission of the FBI by addressing the lies told and repeated about us.
No more.
The investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Inspector General (OIG) has to be understood in the context of the attacks on my credibility. The investigation flows from my attempt to explain the FBI's involvement and my supervision of investigations involving Hillary Clinton. I was being portrayed in the media over and over as a political partisan, accused of closing down investigations under political pressure. The FBI was portrayed as caving under that pressure, and making decisions for political rather than law enforcement purposes. Nothing was further from the truth. In fact, this entire investigation stems from my efforts, fully authorized under FBI rules, to set the record straight on behalf of the Bureau, and to make clear that we were continuing an investigation that people in DOJ opposed.
The OIG investigation has focused on information I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor. As Deputy Director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the Director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter. It was the type of exchange with the media that the Deputy Director oversees several times per week. In fact, it was the same type of work that I continued to do under Director Wray, at his request. The investigation subsequently focused on who I talked to, when I talked to them, and so forth. During these inquiries, I answered questions truthfully and as accurately as I could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. And when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them.
But looking at that in isolation completely misses the big picture. The big picture is a tale of what can happen when law enforcement is politicized, public servants are attacked, and people who are supposed to cherish and protect our institutions become instruments for damaging those institutions and people.
Here is the reality: I am being singled out and treated this way because of the role I played, the actions I took, and the events I witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of James Comey. The release of this report was accelerated only after my testimony to the House Intelligence Committee revealed that I would corroborate former Director Comey's accounts of his discussions with the President. The OIG's focus on me and this report became a part of an unprecedented effort by the Administration, driven by the President himself, to remove me from my position, destroy my reputation, and possibly strip me of a pension that I worked 21 years to earn. The accelerated release of the report, and the punitive actions taken in response, make sense only when viewed through this lens. Thursday's comments from the White House are just the latest example of this.
This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to tain the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally. It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work.
I have always prided myself on serving my country with distinction and integrity, and I always encouraged those around me to do the same. Just ask them. To have my career end in this way, and to be accused of lacking candor when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair. But it will not erase the important work I was privileged to be a part of, the results of which will in the end be revealed for the country to see.
I have unfailing faith in the men and women of the FBI and I am confident that their efforts to seek justice will not be deterred.
I have been an FBI Special Agent for over 21 years. I spent half of that time investigating Russian Organized Crime as a street agent and Supervisor in New York City. I have spent the second half of my career focusing on national security issues and protecting this country from terrorism. I served in some of the most challenging, demanding investigative and leadership roles in the FBI. And I was privileged to serve as Deputy Director during a particularly tough time.
For the last year and a half, my family and I have been the targets of an unrelenting assault on our reputation and my service to this country. Articles too numerous to count have leveled every sort of false, defamatory and degrading allegation against us. The President's tweets have amplified and exacerbated it all. He called for my firing. He called for me to be stripped of my pension after more than 20 years of service. And all along we have said nothing, never wanting to distract from the mission of the FBI by addressing the lies told and repeated about us.
No more.
The investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Inspector General (OIG) has to be understood in the context of the attacks on my credibility. The investigation flows from my attempt to explain the FBI's involvement and my supervision of investigations involving Hillary Clinton. I was being portrayed in the media over and over as a political partisan, accused of closing down investigations under political pressure. The FBI was portrayed as caving under that pressure, and making decisions for political rather than law enforcement purposes. Nothing was further from the truth. In fact, this entire investigation stems from my efforts, fully authorized under FBI rules, to set the record straight on behalf of the Bureau, and to make clear that we were continuing an investigation that people in DOJ opposed.
The OIG investigation has focused on information I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor. As Deputy Director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the Director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter. It was the type of exchange with the media that the Deputy Director oversees several times per week. In fact, it was the same type of work that I continued to do under Director Wray, at his request. The investigation subsequently focused on who I talked to, when I talked to them, and so forth. During these inquiries, I answered questions truthfully and as accurately as I could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. And when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them.
But looking at that in isolation completely misses the big picture. The big picture is a tale of what can happen when law enforcement is politicized, public servants are attacked, and people who are supposed to cherish and protect our institutions become instruments for damaging those institutions and people.
Here is the reality: I am being singled out and treated this way because of the role I played, the actions I took, and the events I witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of James Comey. The release of this report was accelerated only after my testimony to the House Intelligence Committee revealed that I would corroborate former Director Comey's accounts of his discussions with the President. The OIG's focus on me and this report became a part of an unprecedented effort by the Administration, driven by the President himself, to remove me from my position, destroy my reputation, and possibly strip me of a pension that I worked 21 years to earn. The accelerated release of the report, and the punitive actions taken in response, make sense only when viewed through this lens. Thursday's comments from the White House are just the latest example of this.
This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to tain the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally. It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work.
I have always prided myself on serving my country with distinction and integrity, and I always encouraged those around me to do the same. Just ask them. To have my career end in this way, and to be accused of lacking candor when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair. But it will not erase the important work I was privileged to be a part of, the results of which will in the end be revealed for the country to see.
I have unfailing faith in the men and women of the FBI and I am confident that their efforts to seek justice will not be deterred.
John Bender
Footballguy
"McCabe is a traitor" is nothing more than traitors who have actually committed traitorous offenses projecting.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
If McCabe had been allowed to retire, and there was later proof he was lying, is there any clawback for his pension at that point?
What is standard operating procedure historically for things like this?
What is standard operating procedure historically for things like this?
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I'm just curious. What do you think is an appropriate measure to take if he was lying? What would be the penalty for lying to Mr. McCabe when he was performing his duties?
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Let's go ahead and blackball Fred Fisher now, because if we find out later that he really was a Communist after all, then it will be too late to ruin his career.
joffer
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
No I actually just am. If this is an unprecedented move, I can better understand the outrage. I guess I’m trying to figure out in the body of his duties, was what McCabe is accused of a parking ticket, a misdemeanor or a felony? If it’s parking ticket, I understand the outrage but if it’s a felony, a fireable offense let’s say, then I’m not sure I have that much sympathy for him.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
He's accused of not being forthcoming. But nobody will say what he wasn't being forthcoming about.
Rirruto
Footballguy
A former FBI agent is currently doing a twitter thread on it. Another former FBI guy, Josh Campbell, had similar thoughts on twitter. If he really did "lack candor," it is unquestionably something he should be fired for.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
Said in the Twitter thread that it’s getting repetitive and almost boring but Trump’s Tweet is beyond classless and that’s ignoring the legitimacy of this firing. He’s just a horrible human being.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
What a crock of ####. Terrible, pathetic, petty, and vindictive.
