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The Russia Investigation: Trump Pardons Flynn (11 Viewers)
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moleculo
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jumped to contempt, apparently. If that's where you end up after 10 months of negotiating, might as well jump to the chase.
Rove!
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Burning the bridges
heightened partisanship
more division
abuse of power by Congress
Polictical circus
mission accomplished
Long Ball Larry
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Id rather not have this turn into a #### measuring contest.Rove! said:
bostonfred
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Are you guys using "mission accomplished" again? I thought you took a break from that phrase after the Bush thing.
ericttspikes
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matuski
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Amused to Death
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ericttspikes
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[scooter]
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James Daulton
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Man oh man the dems are going to come out yuuggeee in 2020. Trump's wrangled about as many votes as he can from his "base" but if dems come out at Obama levels it's over Johnny!
ren hoek
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https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1126162956310515712
Here's @ericswalwell likening Russian clickbait & alleged email hacking to Pearl Harbor & 9/11. This unhinged exploitation of actual attacks on the US is an insult to victims of those tragedies & an encapsulation of the pathetic, self-defeating delusion afflicting top Democrats //
Convincing dems and nevertrump republicans that truthful information in their own interest was an “attack” on their democracy was probably the greatest disinformation campaign of all time. Absolutely deluded.
Here's @ericswalwell likening Russian clickbait & alleged email hacking to Pearl Harbor & 9/11. This unhinged exploitation of actual attacks on the US is an insult to victims of those tragedies & an encapsulation of the pathetic, self-defeating delusion afflicting top Democrats //
Convincing dems and nevertrump republicans that truthful information in their own interest was an “attack” on their democracy was probably the greatest disinformation campaign of all time. Absolutely deluded.
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Do the republicans realize that at some point they are going to lose and all these new rules trump is creating is going to work against them?
Until trump i didn't realize that the entire country is governed by the president. If only clinton knew he could declare executive privilege over his discretions
Until trump i didn't realize that the entire country is governed by the president. If only clinton knew he could declare executive privilege over his discretions
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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They're counting on the courts, just like the rest of us.
Unlike the rest of us they're also hoping that the courts don't do their thing until January, 2021.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Yes of course they realize this. But they also realize that A) their base doesn't care, and B) the general public has a short memory.
Lindsey Graham will go right back to waving his finger and demanding that we follow the rule of law, and every Republican will act like the previous 4 years never happened.
siffoin
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The Commish
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Ditkaless Wonders
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No, given your screen name I imagine you want it to be a ball measuring contest, not a #### one.
CentralPA
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Bigly
Are we sure that the Dems don't want President Trump reelected?
At this point, the Dems have absolutely nothing hanging over President Trump's head....nothing.
The only option they are facing now is the option they fear the most and have been trying to avoid.....they'll have to actually beat him in an election.
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Ditkaless Wonders
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tsst
ren hoek
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Skoo
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Well that's a new one.
"Losing the house and making it unable to pass any big pieces of legislation was a GOOD thing for Trump!"
I guess if he loses in 2020 that'll really show 'em!
ren hoek
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https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1126173435523162112
Comey often misstates key facts about the Russia investigation. Not sure if he was out of the loop or is misdirecting on purpose. But even Mueller/FBI haven't claimed that FBI knew of Papadopoulos and Mifsud interaction before opening investigation.
Comey often misstates key facts about the Russia investigation. Not sure if he was out of the loop or is misdirecting on purpose. But even Mueller/FBI haven't claimed that FBI knew of Papadopoulos and Mifsud interaction before opening investigation.
prefontaine
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munga30
Checkin' my email
Skoo
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What's really sad is that I feel like at one point, I would've been outraged watching this.
But now?
Just par for the course.
"We're the party of law and order."
"But, I think Trump broke the law."
"Everyone breaks the law, stop being obtuse."
joffer
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started watching before knowing when it was done.....about 20 seconds in I knew it couldn't be current.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Yup but the context of his words, with the exception of changing a 'D' to an 'R', are exactly the same as today. Hypocrites, all.
The current political climate is paradise for politicians. Nothing matters anymore. Not too long ago a politician would never come out like Graham has knowing what he said in the past. Normally that would kill all credibility but now not a peep. There is absolutely no accountability for anything they say or do and they have to love it.
SaintsInDome2006
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What a weird comment. How would one open an investigation into something without knowing of that thing's existence beforehand? I can't fathom what is so hard to understand about this. Mueller states the FBI opened its investigation of potential coordination between Russia and the Trump Campaign a few days after it received information from the Auz ambassador. The ambassador didn't tell the FBI until after wikileaks' release of the Russian hacked Hillary related DNC emails. Comey's comment is just that any normal candidate or campaign or party would be clamoring if an investigation had not been opened after getting such info.
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Amused to Death
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Because, "Suck it Libs!" is all that matters. And there won't be a single Trump supporter here today that will honestly comment on that clip. Not one.
prefontaine
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SaintsInDome2006
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It's possible that Trump WH is funneling testimony through the Senate. Like Barr if they do it once under their chair they can control the rules and say it's done.
- However if this isn't coordinated and if Trump resists then they risk ticking off key Republican Senators. I doubt that's the case though.
It may be that the idea is to allow Don Jr. to clean up his testimony. It's also possible his is one of the referred cases. He pleaded the 5th by the looks of it in the Mueller report though that's not clear unless they can get under the redactions.
- However if this isn't coordinated and if Trump resists then they risk ticking off key Republican Senators. I doubt that's the case though.
It may be that the idea is to allow Don Jr. to clean up his testimony. It's also possible his is one of the referred cases. He pleaded the 5th by the looks of it in the Mueller report though that's not clear unless they can get under the redactions.
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SaintsInDome2006
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SaintsInDome2006
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- We don't know who pleaded the 5th yet.
prefontaine
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SaintsInDome2006
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prefontaine
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The Commish
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
SaintsInDome2006
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>>Schiff is also getting stonewalled in another way. The House Intelligence Committee is asking the FBI to supply the findings of its counterintelligence investigation — which is separate from those of its criminalinvestigation, and thus were not included in the Mueller report. As Martin Lederman explains, the FBI is legally required to keep intelligence committees informed of such matters.
But a committee aide told the New York Times that this information has not been forthcoming, and that the committee may resort to a subpoena.
These counterintelligence findings are a big missing piece of the puzzle. As Ryan Goodman noted, we still don’t know what the special counsel and/or the FBI have determined “with respect to whether Trump associates engaged in reciprocal efforts with Russian agents without entering a criminal agreement to do so, whether Americans have been witting or unwitting Russian assets, and what leverage or influence Moscow may have over particular individuals.”
Schiff confirmed to me that this information is being withheld, and noted that on this matter, there may be a divide among intelligence professionals on one side, and Barr and the White House on the other.
“I think the FBI is willing to be more forthcoming,” Schiff said. “I think the FBI and intelligence community are mindful of their statutory obligations, and they’re caught between a rock and a hard place with the combative posture that Bill Barr has taken.”
“I think this is being driven by the White House, and I think Bill Barr is acting as the president’s lieutenant,” Schiff added.<<
WaPo
***> There may be an additional set of counterintelligence findings outside the Mueller report.
But a committee aide told the New York Times that this information has not been forthcoming, and that the committee may resort to a subpoena.
These counterintelligence findings are a big missing piece of the puzzle. As Ryan Goodman noted, we still don’t know what the special counsel and/or the FBI have determined “with respect to whether Trump associates engaged in reciprocal efforts with Russian agents without entering a criminal agreement to do so, whether Americans have been witting or unwitting Russian assets, and what leverage or influence Moscow may have over particular individuals.”
Schiff confirmed to me that this information is being withheld, and noted that on this matter, there may be a divide among intelligence professionals on one side, and Barr and the White House on the other.
“I think the FBI is willing to be more forthcoming,” Schiff said. “I think the FBI and intelligence community are mindful of their statutory obligations, and they’re caught between a rock and a hard place with the combative posture that Bill Barr has taken.”
“I think this is being driven by the White House, and I think Bill Barr is acting as the president’s lieutenant,” Schiff added.<<
WaPo
***> There may be an additional set of counterintelligence findings outside the Mueller report.
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SaintsInDome2006
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Tuesday, the Senate: “case closed”
Wednesday, the Senate: Junior has to testify.
Wednesday, the Senate: Junior has to testify.
